Blood_Hawk23
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I think Tango had it last. there was another post on it somewhere.
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Was a "Nam" campaign for CFS2 ever done?
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kelticheart
Charter Member
Thanks Rami!
It looks like heck knows when such thing will ever be released, not counting that I haven't seen posts from Dirtman in quite a while, his last post to this thread dates back to January 2011......
At least, when the time will come, I'll be ready with the aircraft fleet!
Cheers!
KH :ernae:
kelticheart
Charter Member
Vietnam sceneries H.U!
To Whom It May Concern:........
I am finding over at Flightsim.com a large amount of Vietnam war airport sceneries designed for FS2002, which, if I'm correct, shouldn't have many conversion issues with CFS2. I haven't installed any of them yet, but I quick look inside the downloads shows the same file structure, with *.bgl in \scenery and texture files in \texture, we usually find in CFS2 sceneries.
Thay are all designed by George Knowles, and, other than the fact they are not GSL sceneries, I think they can be collected.
To find them, just select "File Library" from Flightsim.com, do a "File Search" and enter "George Knowles" as a search key. You'll get all 38 of them.
Cheers!
KH :ernae:
To Whom It May Concern:........
I am finding over at Flightsim.com a large amount of Vietnam war airport sceneries designed for FS2002, which, if I'm correct, shouldn't have many conversion issues with CFS2. I haven't installed any of them yet, but I quick look inside the downloads shows the same file structure, with *.bgl in \scenery and texture files in \texture, we usually find in CFS2 sceneries.
Thay are all designed by George Knowles, and, other than the fact they are not GSL sceneries, I think they can be collected.
To find them, just select "File Library" from Flightsim.com, do a "File Search" and enter "George Knowles" as a search key. You'll get all 38 of them.
Cheers!
KH :ernae:
Typhoon Willy
Charter Member
Hi Kelti,
Thanks for the heads up! Ian Elliot did several Vietnam air bases, but no where near the extent Mr. Knowles has done. Now I'll have some bases in Thailand from which to fly my F-105Ds that Morton has so wonderfully painted!
TW
Thanks for the heads up! Ian Elliot did several Vietnam air bases, but no where near the extent Mr. Knowles has done. Now I'll have some bases in Thailand from which to fly my F-105Ds that Morton has so wonderfully painted!
TW
Jagdflieger
Jr. Admin
Thai sanam bin
Let us know how those FS 8 airfields in Thailand work out Typhoon.
I've flown out of Takli, Udon and Khon Kaen on various assignments.
Chok di (good luck).
Let us know how those FS 8 airfields in Thailand work out Typhoon.
I've flown out of Takli, Udon and Khon Kaen on various assignments.
Chok di (good luck).
In addition to George Knowles sceneries...
Also look for Chu Lai Airbase by Al Simms for both FS8 and FS9. Al Simms also provided 'Nam era military buildings, huts, bunkers, macros and objects too.
Not sure if FS9 AFCAD files for George Knowles Thailand Military bases by Larry Steinborn will work in CFS2. However they can be found on AVSIM, Flightsim and Simviation. Those bases included are:
VTNP Nam Phong RTAFB nkp-rtafb.zip (Avsim)/(Simviation) Pg. 63
VTUD Udorn RTAFB Udorn rt.zip (Flightsim)/(Simviation) Pg. 63
VTPI Takhli RTAFB TakhliRTAFB.zip (Simviation) Pg. 64
VTUN Khorat RTAFB KoratRTAFB.zip (Simviation) Pg. 63
VTUU Ubon RTAFB UbonRTAFB.zip/Ubon2_zip (Simviation) Pg. 61
VTUW Nakhom Phanom RTAFB NKPRTAFB.zip (Simviation) Pg. 63
Da Nang Area, Vietnam 1970: danang70.zip for FS98 by André Lederer & Udo Entenmann (This is in addition to Knowles Danang AB scenery).
*Trees_v3.zip by Gerrish Gray will be needed for George Knowles sceneries.
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Also look for Chu Lai Airbase by Al Simms for both FS8 and FS9. Al Simms also provided 'Nam era military buildings, huts, bunkers, macros and objects too.
Not sure if FS9 AFCAD files for George Knowles Thailand Military bases by Larry Steinborn will work in CFS2. However they can be found on AVSIM, Flightsim and Simviation. Those bases included are:
VTNP Nam Phong RTAFB nkp-rtafb.zip (Avsim)/(Simviation) Pg. 63
VTUD Udorn RTAFB Udorn rt.zip (Flightsim)/(Simviation) Pg. 63
VTPI Takhli RTAFB TakhliRTAFB.zip (Simviation) Pg. 64
VTUN Khorat RTAFB KoratRTAFB.zip (Simviation) Pg. 63
VTUU Ubon RTAFB UbonRTAFB.zip/Ubon2_zip (Simviation) Pg. 61
VTUW Nakhom Phanom RTAFB NKPRTAFB.zip (Simviation) Pg. 63
Da Nang Area, Vietnam 1970: danang70.zip for FS98 by André Lederer & Udo Entenmann (This is in addition to Knowles Danang AB scenery).
*Trees_v3.zip by Gerrish Gray will be needed for George Knowles sceneries.
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Typhoon Willy
Charter Member
Well, did an install of the Takhli scenery with trees_v3 and kept getting a ctd. Crap.
Blood_Hawk23
Charter Member
it might be able to be converted. I've never tried but maybe.
IIRC.....
didn't Xavier do Indochina, Hainandao add-ons as GSL and also a SouthChina GSL? Could those form a basis for a Indochina/Vietnam campaign/mission add-on. Some reading I had done was that some of the early NVA bases were actually Japanese bases from WW2 and just modernized.
Haven't found any missions for those bases but if available wouldn't be too hard to reconfigure the "calls" for some more modern a/c.
Just a thought on my part and probably not worth a darn.
Also I tried some of those FS9 bases and they caused alot of problems as they are now. Converting them is well above my paygrade of peon.
didn't Xavier do Indochina, Hainandao add-ons as GSL and also a SouthChina GSL? Could those form a basis for a Indochina/Vietnam campaign/mission add-on. Some reading I had done was that some of the early NVA bases were actually Japanese bases from WW2 and just modernized.
Haven't found any missions for those bases but if available wouldn't be too hard to reconfigure the "calls" for some more modern a/c.
Just a thought on my part and probably not worth a darn.
Also I tried some of those FS9 bases and they caused alot of problems as they are now. Converting them is well above my paygrade of peon.
kelticheart
Charter Member
Good idea, but....
Hi Fibber,
although yours is in theory a good idea, considering Xavier's Far East sceneries are all GSL-ised, I had my share of so-so experience coupling the sceneries which came with Fox4's KoW addon with Xavier's WWII Korean strips.
Mine was the usual CFS2er's attempt for a richer environment than the bare CFS2 world, in some case the same location airbases just stood side by side without interferring with each other, in other cases they overlapped with a poor visual result.
The real issue came with the length of Xavier's WWII strips and the fact that they all feature a rough, dirt surface, which was not very well accepted by the Sabres and the Panthers. All other aircrafts, naturally all WWII derived piston-engined planes like Skyraiders, had not a single problem, but I experienced some jet blowup landing or taking off from Xavier's Korean strips.
Since I always fly with the flight model set to "hard" and all reality features on for maximum immersion factor, in a couple of instances I blew up my Sabre just taxiing towards the hangar or parking spot, shooting to hell an otherwise good mission.The jet I had more difficulties taking off with, for its unfavourable power-to-weight ratio, is the straight-winged F-84G Thunderjet, which always ate up the entire dirt strip length, sometimes even overshot it.
The length of runways cannot be modified, as all the data one can tinker with in the airbases.dat is all dedicated to AI planes, not affecting the main plane at all. Besides, as far as my knowledge goes, the natural roughness of a dirt strip cannot be modified either.
I gather in Vietnam we'd have the same problem. Heavily loaded fighter-bombers would have a rough life taking off from a dirt strip, let's not talk of the runway length a B-52 would need.
I am so sorry for dismantling your suggestion, but I think we'd need paved, long runways in Vietnam more than in Korea and Xavier's beautiful WWII-era sceneries cannot provide them.
TYPHOON WILLY:
Did you install the FS9 sceneries suggested by p14u2nv, or the FS8 from Flightsim.com? As far as I know FS9 sceneries, as well as CFS3 ones, are not compatible with CFS2, while the senior sim can digest FS2002 sceneries and gobble up FS2000 ones with no problem.
Cheers!
KH :ernae:
Hi Fibber,
although yours is in theory a good idea, considering Xavier's Far East sceneries are all GSL-ised, I had my share of so-so experience coupling the sceneries which came with Fox4's KoW addon with Xavier's WWII Korean strips.
Mine was the usual CFS2er's attempt for a richer environment than the bare CFS2 world, in some case the same location airbases just stood side by side without interferring with each other, in other cases they overlapped with a poor visual result.
The real issue came with the length of Xavier's WWII strips and the fact that they all feature a rough, dirt surface, which was not very well accepted by the Sabres and the Panthers. All other aircrafts, naturally all WWII derived piston-engined planes like Skyraiders, had not a single problem, but I experienced some jet blowup landing or taking off from Xavier's Korean strips.
Since I always fly with the flight model set to "hard" and all reality features on for maximum immersion factor, in a couple of instances I blew up my Sabre just taxiing towards the hangar or parking spot, shooting to hell an otherwise good mission.The jet I had more difficulties taking off with, for its unfavourable power-to-weight ratio, is the straight-winged F-84G Thunderjet, which always ate up the entire dirt strip length, sometimes even overshot it.
The length of runways cannot be modified, as all the data one can tinker with in the airbases.dat is all dedicated to AI planes, not affecting the main plane at all. Besides, as far as my knowledge goes, the natural roughness of a dirt strip cannot be modified either.
I gather in Vietnam we'd have the same problem. Heavily loaded fighter-bombers would have a rough life taking off from a dirt strip, let's not talk of the runway length a B-52 would need.
I am so sorry for dismantling your suggestion, but I think we'd need paved, long runways in Vietnam more than in Korea and Xavier's beautiful WWII-era sceneries cannot provide them.
TYPHOON WILLY:
Did you install the FS9 sceneries suggested by p14u2nv, or the FS8 from Flightsim.com? As far as I know FS9 sceneries, as well as CFS3 ones, are not compatible with CFS2, while the senior sim can digest FS2002 sceneries and gobble up FS2000 ones with no problem.
Cheers!
KH :ernae:
KELTI.........
.....forget about the "Buffs" having their feet on the ground in SNAM. No way shape or form were the bases able to handle them. By the time they got airborne they were already at minimum over NVam.
Dirt strips the "fan guys" could handle. Shorter stips were usable for the likes of the F-5's. That is beside the bases like Dang(Damn)Nahn(sp) which could service the jets.
Beside my thought about Xavier bases was just that ... a thought.
.....forget about the "Buffs" having their feet on the ground in SNAM. No way shape or form were the bases able to handle them. By the time they got airborne they were already at minimum over NVam.
Dirt strips the "fan guys" could handle. Shorter stips were usable for the likes of the F-5's. That is beside the bases like Dang(Damn)Nahn(sp) which could service the jets.
Beside my thought about Xavier bases was just that ... a thought.
Typhoon Willy
Charter Member
Hi Kelti,
I wasn't able to get the FS2002 Takhili Airbase to work, kept getting a CTD. I even installed the trees but still no go.
TW
I wasn't able to get the FS2002 Takhili Airbase to work, kept getting a CTD. I even installed the trees but still no go.
TW
Oh The Good ol' Days of Dirt and Humor
I used to Skype with Dirtman once in a while, and I know Rami and some of you other guys did so on a more regular basis. I seem to recall him offering me a beta of what had been done on the project so far, but that was a couple of years ago. I turned down the beta because he said the FPS were too low. Now, I have no recall regarding what the beta included but I had assumed it included some scenery (hence the FPS issues).
I haven't heard from Daddy Dirt in a year or so because my wife . . . well . . . you see . . . how do you say . . . oh yea . . . yo no tengo machismo . . . but GOD I LOVED THAT MAN! What fun we had jousting back and forth in the CFS2 forum! At one point I think we were both about to be banned but it was all in fun . . . SO MUCH FUN! Those days were the pinnacle of fun and laughter here at the SOH CFS2 forum . . . at least IMHO.
Here's to you Daddy Dirt:ernae: wherever you are!
Has no one been in touch with Dirtman and asked him for whatever files he may still have regarding the project?
Just thinking about those good old days makes me want to get in touch with him. I will ask about the project but bear in mind he may not have everything that was supposed to go into the project. Some of the SOH members who were active a couple of years ago, but are no longer, could probably tell us what happened to the files from that unfinished project. If you know who they are, try to get in touch with them and maybe we can upload parts of the project instead of waiting two more years for a HUGE project that will probably never get finished.
I used to Skype with Dirtman once in a while, and I know Rami and some of you other guys did so on a more regular basis. I seem to recall him offering me a beta of what had been done on the project so far, but that was a couple of years ago. I turned down the beta because he said the FPS were too low. Now, I have no recall regarding what the beta included but I had assumed it included some scenery (hence the FPS issues).
I haven't heard from Daddy Dirt in a year or so because my wife . . . well . . . you see . . . how do you say . . . oh yea . . . yo no tengo machismo . . . but GOD I LOVED THAT MAN! What fun we had jousting back and forth in the CFS2 forum! At one point I think we were both about to be banned but it was all in fun . . . SO MUCH FUN! Those days were the pinnacle of fun and laughter here at the SOH CFS2 forum . . . at least IMHO.
Here's to you Daddy Dirt:ernae: wherever you are!
Has no one been in touch with Dirtman and asked him for whatever files he may still have regarding the project?
Just thinking about those good old days makes me want to get in touch with him. I will ask about the project but bear in mind he may not have everything that was supposed to go into the project. Some of the SOH members who were active a couple of years ago, but are no longer, could probably tell us what happened to the files from that unfinished project. If you know who they are, try to get in touch with them and maybe we can upload parts of the project instead of waiting two more years for a HUGE project that will probably never get finished.
kelticheart
Charter Member
Sorry, TW, I can't help you because I haven't installed any of those sceneries yet. I am only collecting all the Vietnam related materials so that, one day, I can set up a Vietnam CFS2 install.
At any rate, if a scenery bgl file creates conflicts with CFS2 engine there's nothing much that one can do, apart from storing the scenery for future reference. I also have FS2002 but it's not installed. If you happen to have it as well, I would use it to test if the scenery is any good at all. Unfortunately, not everything we download is bug-free!
Cheers!
KH :ernae: