Water Effects Dilema

New Rig

You are right on concerning getting a new rig, hand picking all the parts and putting it together yourself. I haven't bought a 'Bundle' PC from retail since 1980's. I also had Corel 2 (still have the floppys). I now have a ($1200.00) i7, 2600K, with Asus MB, and a Saphire Radeion HD-5770 1Gb DDR5 and FSX (locked at 30 FPS) gives me 30.1 FPS 99% of the time. I see 29.0 FPS occasionally. No stutter, no tearing. I run XP Sp2. I did the Jesus tweak. I MIGHT get Windows 7 PRO (ONLY version I would trust) or Windows 8 'Upgraded' version next year-maybe....

I had a Pentium 4 (3.2 Ghz) before, but the MB/video card was a bottle neck (which might be your problem?). MB chip set drivers and latest video cards are 'key'. Does that make FSX run 'faster'? Maybe not, but things work a lot smoother with less crashes. Having 7200 rpm hard drives helps. Having 6 to 8 Mb of Ram helps.

I wonder how many FSX simmers can qualify as 'IT Pro' technicians? Almost a requirement to run FSX, or so it seems. And I don't run any add-ons, by the way. Too risky. I want performance, not eye candy. Good luck with upgrade-sound like you sure NEED it.
Chuck B
Napamule
 
napamule said:
You are right on concerning getting a new rig, hand picking all the parts and putting it together yourself. I haven't bought a 'Bundle' PC from retail since 1980's. I also had Corel 2 (still have the floppys). I now have a ($1200.00) i7, 2600K, with Asus MB, and a Saphire Radeion HD-5770 1Gb DDR5 and FSX (locked at 30 FPS) gives me 30.1 FPS 99% of the time. I see 29.0 FPS occasionally. No stutter, no tearing. I run XP Sp2. I did the Jesus tweak. I MIGHT get Windows 7 PRO (ONLY version I would trust) or Windows 8 'Upgraded' version next year-maybe....

I had a Pentium 4 (3.2 Ghz) before, but the MB/video card was a bottle neck (which might be your problem?). MB chip set drivers and latest video cards are 'key'. Does that make FSX run 'faster'? Maybe not, but things work a lot smoother with less crashes. Having 7200 rpm hard drives helps. Having 6 to 8 Mb of Ram helps.

I wonder how many FSX simmers can qualify as 'IT Pro' technicians? Almost a requirement to run FSX, or so it seems. And I don't run any add-ons, by the way. Too risky. I want performance, not eye candy. Good luck with upgrade-sound like you sure NEED it.
Chuck B
Napamule
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I'm running a lot of stuff for sure. ORBX, REX, super high res PR and airplanes like the CS 777. That will bring any system to it's knees. I'm making 30 FPS and up on average despite the load. Tipella takes me down to 20, but when I built CBB7 I took the design to the max.

My card will stumble on occasion, but I can cure that with the tweaks. I can't make a quality video, the machine just wont give me smooth performance there.

My new project is going to require me to work in Photoshop at 30,000 x 20,000 pixels. The high res satellite image work is taxing on the system and I'm going to need to make high def video.

The purpose built machine is going to be mandatory.
I'd appreciate any comments on systems from others who are working in a high demand environment.
If I'm going to spend real money...I want to be well researched first.
 
gman5250 said:
I'm running a lot of stuff for sure. ORBX, REX, super high res PR and airplanes like the CS 777. That will bring any system to it's knees. I'm making 30 FPS and up on average despite the load. Tipella takes me down to 20, but when I built CBB7 I took the design to the max.

My card will stumble on occasion, but I can cure that with the tweaks. I can't make a quality video, the machine just wont give me smooth performance there.

My new project is going to require me to work in Photoshop at 30,000 x 20,000 pixels. The high res satellite image work is taxing on the system and I'm going to need to make high def video.

The purpose built machine is going to be mandatory.
I'd appreciate any comments on systems from others who are working in a high demand environment.
If I'm going to spend real money...I want to be well researched first.
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First of all; There is absolutely nothing wrong with Windows 7. There is obviously something very wrong with your system that is making you believe W7 is the culprit.
The OS is considered to be one of the best (if not the best) available.

My observation is that all of the profiling/marketing algorithms, coupled with PRISM and the NSA friendly code that has been introduced to our systems has compromised performance and code integrity to the point of rendering the original OS useless. IMHO, and I will refrain from entering into a political discourse on this forum.
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I'm sorry gman, I don't mean to be rude; but this notion is laughable at best. It's a tinfoil hat conspiracy-esque statement that has no basis in reality.
Opting out of Windows updates actually makes you more susceptible to attacks, ESPECIALLY those of a "first-day" variety.

Considering what you've written about your past issues, I would run a chkdsk on your primary partition(s) and HDD's to check if you have a bad HDD, before jumping to conclusions.

With regards to a high-demand machine; it really doesn't require much research. Based on your vague requirements;

i7 4770K
GTX 770
32GB RAM
1x 256GB SSD for primary partition and image editing
1x Your existing 2TB HDD (If not faulty..)
S1155 Motherboard based on your chipset of choice.

I work in VisualFX and would manage with such a machine for very complex scenes and tasks (involving millions of particles, krakatoa/fumeFX/Afterburn/VRay/ThinkingParticles/etc.)
 
GrinningJester said:
I'm sorry gman, I don't mean to be rude; but this notion is laughable at best. It's a tinfoil hat conspiracy-esque statement that has no basis in reality.
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Sir. If you don't mean to be rude, dismissive or condescending...then don't be.

We all maintain a high level of respect for one another on this forum. We may not share others opinions in certain areas, but we attempt to be civil to one another. I have a 30 year background of deep research, with vetted documentation on many topics. I see many comments on this site that I may not agree with but, as I have the highest respect for everyone here, I keep my opinions to myself unless asked directly. To date...no one has asked for my opinion.

Insinuating that I am a "tinfoil hat" style stereotype personality assumes that I am somehow impaired, not as informed as you are, or that you know more about my background than I.
I quite assure you...this is not the case.
I am well researched, documented, and information in my possession is thoroughly vetted and backed up in hard copy.

Perhaps you can reinforce your statement with hard proof that data mining, market and personality profiling is not taking place via the internet.
Perhaps then, you can explain to me how Google knows more about what I am thinking than I do?
What do you think is done with this mined data...? It is certainly not kept private nor confidential...this fact is a matter of record.
Also, who do you believe takes advantage of all of this mined data?

I appreciate your comments and input sir, but unless you can back up your statement with hard fact I would not offer your own opinion as such.

This is all I will say on this issue in this forum. If you wish to pursue this course of discussion I will respond to your PM.
 
back on topic fellers, opinions are like other belongings, only the owner has the implicit right to handle them or modify them in any way
assessing or criticising another mans beliefs is like trespassing...

so Gman - have you looked at Tom's Hardware website forums for build suggestions? - its a good place to start. You can reference the programs and capabilities you are looking for and get terrific advice
 
heywooood said:
back on topic fellers, opinions are like other belongings, only the owner has the implicit right to handle them or modify them in any way
assessing or criticising another mans beliefs is like trespassing...

so Gman - have you looked at Tom's Hardware website forums for build suggestions? - its a good place to start. You can reference the programs and capabilities you are looking for and get terrific advice
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I'll take a look for sure. Since my system is so task specific I'll be looking for setups that others are using successfully.
Opinions...yep, copy that.
 
I checked my hardware...all healthy as an ox. Re-loaded FSX...it took two tries, the first cached some files I didn't want, so I started with a clean virgin install. I organized quite a few things and coupled with FSX Booster 2013, which I find much more friendly than the original. Here is a screen of the same water shots with the install running healthy. I can't say what or where the bug was residing, but I am pleased with the result.

Screen description, KMRY bay with FSX default scenery on the left and my high def photo real tile on the right. No land blend mask. Water mask 50% gray blending up to the breaker line. Note the water on the FSX default is using stock water mask.
On the PR, the REX animated chop is flowing right up to the water mask border, FSX breaker animations are correct from that point to the sand and the water color as it should be. Compare this to the chrome turquoise from my original screens and you will see where my anomaly originally was. If anyone can pinpoint the cause of the display anomaly I would be keen to know what caused that problem for my further reference.

I appreciate everyone's input, both positive and negative. Thank you gentlemen.

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