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Water everywhere!

Yes, my problem is with the terminology, which is nowhere defined.




There are two main entries I can see in FTX Central 2 - FTX Global and North America.

I can select either, and make it "active" by pressing the "Apply Group" button. FTX Global includes another terminology, "Layers", with Base Pack, openLC NA Alaska/Canada, and Vector listed.

But I can't seem to make both North America and Global active at the same time.

So, what should I do to get rid of the watery tiles?

Almost there. Housekeeping first. You previously said that you had unticked the OpenLC and Orbyx entries in the FSX Scenery Library. If you left them unticked, please go back into the FSX Scenery Library and re-tick them.

Second, you said you always kept the Orbx Library up to date, but not quite what I asked. Any time you add a new Orbx scenery, you should always download and install the latest Orbx Library, even if you already have that Orbx Library installed in your system. I think it's something to do with overwriting possible out of date entries introduced by the new scenery. Anyway, I always do it as a matter of course, and I recommend doing it. So if you didn't download and install the latest Orbx Libraries after you installed OpenLC NA (even if you already had the latest Orbx Library on your system), you should do so now.

OK, back to FTX Central 2. In answer to your question, you can only choose one of the "Groups", FTX Global or North America at any one time. "North America" does not refer to the entire continent. It just refers to the special high definition scenery areas Orbx offers in North America. So far they're all on the western side of North America. You can see which of these special high definition scenery areas you have by choosing North America in FTX Central 2 and them scrolling down.

So if you want to fly in one of these special areas and see all the scenery eye candy you've paid for, you should choose and activate "North America", everywhere else in the world outside these special high def scenery areas, you should chose and activate "FTX Global".

If you don't want to be switching FTX Central 2 back and forth all the time whenever you fly in and out of these special high def scenery areas, Orbx does offer a "Hybrid Mode" option. Select and activate "FTX Global", and when you do, right beneath the "FTX Global" name on the right hand side, you will see a box titled "Hybrid Mode". Ticking that will load most of the hi def scenery eye candy when you fly into one of these special North America areas without you having to go back into FTX Central 2 to switch to North America.

So in answer to your question how to avoid the watery tiles (and assuming you've done the housekeeping bits above), select and activate "FTX Global" in FTX Central 2, and I would recommend ticking the "Hybrid Mode" box, so you don't have to switch between "FTX Global" and "North America" all the time.

Before leaving FTX Central 2, there's one last thing to do that may also help to avoid the mish-mash of scenery tiles.

In the FTX Scenery Library, OpenLC NA files should be below your other Orbx scenery files to make sure everything loads correctly. The OpenLC NA files when installed always install on top of your other Orbx sceneries, and if you simply try to move them down in the FSX Scenery Library, they'll always pop back up over your other Orbx sceneries whenever you open FSX.

So in order to fix the OpenLC NA files in place in the FSX Scenery Library, you need to use what's called an "FTX Insertion Tool" in FTX Central 2.

When your're in FTX Central, after activating FTX Global, in the lower left corner, you will see the word "settings" in white; click on that. In the screen that opens up, on the tabs that appear, you will see half way along a tab called "Tools; click on that. In the screen that appears, you will see an entry "Library Insertion Points"; click on that.

What now appears will be a list of all the sceneries in your scenery library. Scroll up or down until you see a little red "FTX". This is your special North America Orbx sceneries. Right above this in white lettering should be your OpenLC NA files. Put your mouse cursor over the red FTX, hold down the left mouse button and move the red FTX up so it's now over top of the OpenLC NA files. Take note of the order of the OpenLC NA files, and click the "apply changes" button.

Note this does not change any ordering in the actual FSX Scenery Library itself. You will still have to go back into the FSX Scenery Library and move the OpenLC NA files down under your Orbyx sceneries, keeping the OpenLC NA files in the same order as in the Library Insertion Points list, but they will now stay in place under the Orbx sceneries in your FSX Scenery Library.

And that's it. Sorry for the very long post, but hopefully all this will have have fixed the watery mish-mash tiles problem. If not, then you may have to start looking at the other solutions suggested above.

Thanks - Rob
 
@RobM thank you for the updated FTX Central 2 manual!

Just one minor correction - placing the red FTX entry just below my addon scenery entries and pressing the "Apply" did indeed move the OpenLC entries below the FTX entries, so I didn't have to move them in the FSX Scenery settings.

The good news is the watery/snowy/sandy tiles are gone!

ORBX adds a lot to FSX. Too bad they add a lot of frustration, too.
 
@RobM thank you for the updated FTX Central 2 manual!

Just one minor correction - placing the red FTX entry just below my addon scenery entries and pressing the "Apply" did indeed move the OpenLC entries below the FTX entries, so I didn't have to move them in the FSX Scenery settings.

The good news is the watery/snowy/sandy tiles are gone!

ORBX adds a lot to FSX. Too bad they add a lot of frustration, too.

Hurray! But as I think just a few flights will show, well worth the time and effort (personally, I'm very pleased with OpenLC NA).

Glad I could be of help - Rob
 
@RobM, thank you for a very detailed explanation in getting jschall up and running. I too followed and pasted onto a virtual sticky note. Perhaps this might be stickied into the FAQs and troubleshooting section for future Orbx LC issues?

@jschall, glad to see you up and running. I agree the amount of immersion Orbx products brings to FSX is indeed fantastic but they can certainly be a bear when troubles arise.

@ickie, donation sent to support this great site. Thanks again for having a resource site that hosts many great painters, modders, tech savvy troubleshooters and just plain sim fan extraordinaire's.
 
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