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what a pilot!

To my opinion this video is a mixture of a real aircraft and a quarter scale radio controlled model. The maneuver can be done with a radio controlled model.

I support my opinion by the following two facts:
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he clean cut of the wing - it is more like a model aircraft wing that is disassembled from its connectors. You have to have such arrangement in order to put the model to your car.

As far as I know the cable system of the ailerons is connected to both of the wings. Losing one wing will make the other wing aileron unusable.
Only a model that was specially designed can make it like it is shown in the video.

Anyway if you forward the video frame by frame you can see the point when the stable puppet head turn to be human.
 
HatulBitzot said:
To my opinion this video is a mixture of a real aircraft and a quarter scale radio controlled model. The maneuver can be done with a radio controlled model.

I support my opinion by the following two facts:
T
he clean cut of the wing - it is more like a model aircraft wing that is disassembled from its connectors. You have to have such arrangement in order to put the model to your car.

As far as I know the cable system of the ailerons is connected to both of the wings. Losing one wing will make the other wing aileron unusable.
Only a model that was specially designed can make it like it is shown in the video.

Anyway if you forward the video frame by frame you can see the point when the stable puppet head turn to be human.
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The wing would in fact be removable by no more than two simple bolts. If just one were not tightened, and failed, the wing would rip from its mount as shown. These aircraft are routinely disassembled and crated for shipping and wings are removed for this purpose.

These aircraft don't use cables, they use control rods, like the Fw190. When they are disassembled, the rod is simply disconnected at the wing root. They don't have landing flaps so there is no other control system to be disconnected from the wing other than the single control tube.

Were the wing to break off due to a failure of a bolt, the control rod would simply break off cleanly at the wing root.

None of this proves or disproves the clip's veracity, but it does remove these objections to its possible truthfulness.

I personally would like to say I enjoy this discussion and regardless of the eventual outcome we certainly are finding a lot of interesting technical points to discuss. One thing that is missing is a good, detailed discussion of how such a film would be made, that is, something that could be understood by a person unfamiliar with the intimate details of that sort of thing, along the lines of what an expert witness might provide to a jury.
 
Ok, I watched it a 3rd time and have two shots for you within a second apart, these are the kind of things that make a video look fake and this is just one example. A. Look at the thickness of the edge of grass next to the tarmac, way too thick and off scale for a plane that big, B. Now in this shot, the scale is more appropriate to the size of the plane.

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And look at this one, now c'mon, Bigfoot in the foreground is waaayy too big, LOL :costumes:

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Big_Stick said:
How is that link "proof" of anything other than the fact that killathrill has a website? Unless something has changed in the last 12 hours, there's nothing there that suggests the video is a hoax.

If it's such an obvious fake, than why do you later state it is a "good" fake? Wouldn't a good fake be one that would be convincing? Which is it, obvious or good?
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You'll have to excuse me to be honest. In a moment of madness I dipped my oar in when I really shouldn't have bothered.

I'm quite happy and content in the knowledge that it is most certainly fake, a heavily CGI'd viral marketing video for a clothes website.

Have fun chaps, and keep in mind the piece of advice that compares arguing on the internet to running in the special olympics. :mixedsmi:
 
:wavey:

Must admit though it is a great video !! :applause::ernae:

Laughed me Six Off on the 737 Video - The Kid Dancing in the Doorway, what a riot.

Just now Noticed the Bigfoot good one Bob - ROFL !!

HatulBitzot - Beautiful Dog, Reminds me off my Shepard/TimberWolf Mix - He was a Huge Beast All Tan !!


Cheers !!
 
Another thing, the grass does not move or show any type of depression as it exits onto the tarmac, plus when the plane touches down, there is forward momentum that would take the plane onto it's nose but magically the back end sticks to the ground like a super magnet drew it there, the CGI head doesn't even so much as bob or sway during this violent landing, the gear legs don't depress or bend and watch the right front wheel skirt when it gets near the tarmac and when it goes onto the tarmac, really fake and again, the grass is way off scale. That's my proof if you can explain all this, I'm all ears.
 
Tweek said:
It seems that's what it's boiled down to. I too fail to see the need to keep explaining my point, as I obviously need hard concrete evidence for it to set in (not that we've been provided with anything on the contrary).

Still, at least I'm safe in the knowledge that I'll be able to say "I told you so" when and if it's ever debunked.
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Yep, like I said, there were just too many things "off." :ernae:
 
BananaBob said:
Yep, like I said, there were just too many things "off." :ernae:
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Actually, I after watching that vid, I am now convinced that it is totally absolutely, indisputably...............
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REAL

::Sarcasm off:: :d
 
Those that thought this was real, please, if you ever get called for court duty and you have to make a judgment based on a video, opt out. :mixedsmi:
 
BananaBob said:
Ok, I watched it a 3rd time and have two shots for you within a second apart, these are the kind of things that make a video look fake and this is just one example. A. Look at the thickness of the edge of grass next to the tarmac, way too thick and off scale for a plane that big, B. Now in this shot, the scale is more appropriate to the size of the plane.

fake1yf9.jpg


fake2mq1.jpg
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Ever see how tall the grass grows in a climate like GB, Oregon, or Washington? It can get a heck of a lot taller than that. Maybe it just hasn't been mowed for a while. Or do faked videos always feature perfectly manicured runways?:costumes:
 
simkid22 said:
I cant believe that I didn't notice the difference in the length of the engine cowling!
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Isn't this exactly the kind of forensic evidence I've been asking for? Finally, someone takes the trouble to actually present something concrete.

Now the question is, is this an RC aircraft in the air, spliced to a CGI or full-size aircraft on the ground? Seems to me if there were any CGI, the planes would be a match since building a CGI plane would entail duplicating the RC plane. If the entire thing is CGI, then there should be no mismatch.

Again, this image seems to show that the film is a hoax, but what kind of hoax? How was it done?

I can see that the aircraft on the ground was merged with the flying aircraft right after the landing bounce. Now, we've been talking about this for two days and finally someone has analyzed the film (someone outside this thread) and found some clear proof that the film is a hoax. All the naysaying in the world is not worth two cents compared to that image. That is convincing. Does anyone think that would have surfaced here if I hadn't been so insistent? Good work. But are we talking a combination of RC and a real plane on the ground? This is a darn good effort, and based on the huge amount of controversy and discussion, there are a lot of folks who would like to know how it was done.
 
My Husband was a pilot, I've never been with him in sky, I fear the plane (in reality). Fortunately there is FSX.
However, I saw him how many times fly ! He was very professional, because he was a military pilot. I saw this video and this is a joke! How with one wing aircraft can still fly? Although , I am not a pilot, I do not believe it at all !​
 
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