What aircraft do you think is missing from FSX?

[expat]

Hi Expat,

The major problem with making the Gulfstream under another name is the that Gulfstream have also trademarked the profile of their jets, so you could make one: it just wouldn't look like a Gulfstream.

Understood - thanks - but then wonder why, e.g., this is possible:



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[kilo delta]

Sorry to be a pedant, but if there's a problem ( and there is ), it isn't even compatible. I understand the definition of 'native' and 'compatible' in the context of FSX add-ons.

Milton Shupe's FS9 Spartan and Beech 18 have been worked on to make them 'compatible' with FSX/SP2, and they are flawless as far as I can tell. The Cal Classics C-46 has the usual prop disc texture problem, so by definition is not compatible.

Still the best C-46 yet, however, and one of the aircraft that has me remembering FS9 with great fondness

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I understand what you're saying,Paul. The prop/cloud and canopy/autogen issue is the main reason that I rarely ever fly FS9 propeller driven aircraft and FS9 Helicopter ports in FSX. Milton's Spartan and Beech 18 were recompiled using the FSX SDK which make them "native" FSX (at least in my mind). Granted, they weren't designed from the ground up to fully exploit the possiblities of the newer Sim, but they won't suffer from the prop/cloud issue either. An added bonus is that they'll generally be easier on frames too compared to portovers.

 

[Helldiver]

Douglas TBD-1 Devastaror.
Brewster F2A Buffalo
Douglas B-18 Bolo
Vought SB2U Vindicator (a.k.a., "Wind Indicator")

I'll go with what PRB is having, - thanks.

 

[doublecool]

:salute:FOLLAND GNAT
:salute:YAK 18

 

[Paul K]

I understand what you're saying,Paul. The prop/cloud and canopy/autogen issue is the main reason that I rarely ever fly FS9 propeller driven aircraft and FS9 Helicopter ports in FSX. Milton's Spartan and Beech 18 were recompiled using the FSX SDK which make them "native" FSX (at least in my mind). Granted, they weren't designed from the ground up to fully exploit the possiblities of the newer Sim, but they won't suffer from the prop/cloud issue either. An added bonus is that they'll generally be easier on frames too compared to portovers.

Kilo, I wonder if, given the relative paucity of FSX freeware when compared to the quantity available for FS9, this recompiling of high-end FS9 models could be a new 'growth industry' ?

This thread is about aircraft missing in FSX, and under different circumstances, the list would have undoubtedly included a Spartan Executive and Beech 18. I can think of several more excellent FS9 aircraft that will probably never be modelled again, but could be given a new lease of life by the experts.

I hope such experts are out there and reading this. Might even be worth starting a new thread on the subject, once this one has run it's course.

 

[tracyq144]

Douglas TBD-1 Devastaror.
Brewster F2A Buffalo
Douglas B-18 Bolo
Vought SB2U Vindicator (a.k.a., "Wind Indicator")

That's all I want.

And a Bristol Beaufort. But that's it.

Ok, all those, a Bristol Beaufort, and P-2 Neptune. But that's all I need, really.

And maybe a B-25C...

(and this lamp...)

LOL! Thanks for that!

 

[Prowler1111]

Douglas TBD-1 Devastaror.
Brewster F2A Buffalo
Douglas B-18 Bolo
Vought SB2U Vindicator (a.k.a., "Wind Indicator")

That's all I want.

And a Bristol Beaufort. But that's it.

Ok, all those, a Bristol Beaufort, and P-2 Neptune. But that's all I need, really.

And maybe a B-25C...

(and this lamp...)

Well, i can say that at least 2 of that list are being researched for production, by our novel developer that will debut with the Helldiver.

Prowler

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[Bjoern]

My number one request as well for sheer performance and long range fantasy globe trotting.

Will a Global Express for free also do the trick?

From Rich Schwertfeger and Bill Leaming (the latter of Eaglesoft fame); Avsim and Flightsim.

Kilo, I wonder if, given the relative paucity of FSX freeware when compared to the quantity available for FS9, this recompiling of high-end FS9 models could be a new 'growth industry' ?

Get me the source files and I'll go on a conversion spree (provided the plane is of use to me as well).

All that matters are the GMax files, nothing more, nothing less. Assign new materials, tag the animations FSX style, tweak the model here and there and a FS9 aircraft will start a new life as FSX native.

 

[PRB]

Well, i can say that at least 2 of that list are being researched for production, by our novel developer that will debut with the Helldiver.

Prowler

Well, that certainly is interesting...

 

[kilo delta]

Get me the source files and I'll go on a conversion spree (provided the plane is of use to me as well).

All that matters are the GMax files, nothing more, nothing less. Assign new materials, tag the animations FSX style, tweak the model here and there and a FS9 aircraft will start a new life as FSX native.

Yep..you'd need the source files to recompile the models in the FSX SDK.

Some source files available for free from Simviation I'd be quite interested in the Spitfire MkIX Trainer...wouldn't need a vc as I could transplant another one

Many more available on www.freeflightdesign.org

 

[Paul K]

Get me the source files and I'll go on a conversion spree (provided the plane is of use to me as well).

Bjoern, Milton has said in the past that his FS9 Dash 7 is open for development by anyone who can take it further. I think most previous owners who've now moved on to FSX would dearly love to have it back.

 

[Bjoern]

Bjoern, Milton has said in the past that his FS9 Dash 7 is open for development by anyone who can take it further. I think most previous owners who've now moved on to FSX would dearly love to have it back.

I think I had talked with Milton about the Dash around the time FSNorthwest released their native versions of the Howard and Spartan. Anyways, Milton said that it was worked on by someone and that he'd throw out the source files after that work was finished.
I think it was general model updates and updates to the gauges (which would be mandatory since the 7's engine starter is useless in FSX).

Haven't heard anything ever since 'though.

 

[pilottj]

Many good choices listed above,
'missing eras' for sure the golden age racing era both seaplanes and land racers. This era also allows for some creativity with some 'what if' designs.

Long range biz jets are also missing. I know Gulfstream will not likely happen but I know Aerosoft is working on a CRJ, so perhaps it's cousin the Global Express could see FS someday. Like the racers this is a field where a 'what if' design would fit. Maybe Bill may have some creative ideas of his own down the road. I still think the swingwing bizjet from Tintin's Flight 714 comic would be an intersting bird to explore.

I wonder if it would be possible for Milton's design team to share their extensive Howard research data with maybe A2A and we could eventually see an Accusimed Howard 500 It's uniqueness, beauty, performance were quite special and I think was one of the defining planes for FS9. FSNorthwest did a beautiful job bringing it to FSX. Taking it to the 'ultimate' level would be absolutely amazing.

Cheers
TJ

 

[XLR8]

I think it would be neat to do something a little diffrent . I mean when I was a kid I just thought the world of Revels look into the future. With planes like these .

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/concept_aircraft.htm

 

[stormtrooper271]

I also would love to see more golden age aircraft, including some more warbirds from that era. I would also like to see more early jets, especially more naval aviation jets, when different navies were experimenting with new designs such as angled flight decks and methods for getting planes from the ship to the air.

 

[Chris Sykes]

A few aircraft i think are missing are in no particular order;

P-3/EP-3 Series
MC-130 WC-130 and Snoopy Hercs
Sea Harrier FRS1/2 + Harrier GR All Mks + Twins
EE Lightning
Shackleton
Mosqueto
Canberra
Buccaneer (Waiting for the one being Dev'd)
SA Buldog + Grob Tutor + Viking + Vigilant
Chinook (Heli)
Puma (Another Heli)
VC-10
HS Dominie/125
Almost every USSR Military aircraft!

 

[Hurricane91]

The Boeing 299/YB-17, B17 B/C/D.
Heinkle 70 A/B/C.

 

[CheckSix]

F-100 and F/RF-101 (as mentioned), F-105F and G, EE Frightnings F2, F6 and T5, Buccaneer (as mentioned and in dev) HP Victor K1 / K2, F/RF-8 Crusader, Fiat G91, F-7F Tigercat, Supermarine Spiteful and late mark (low back) Spitfires... The list goes on...

Edit: Not forgetting the A-1E ... Please... Piglet

 

[Bjoern]

Global Express could see FS someday.

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Zat vill do, ja?

 

[UKMIL]

A few aircraft i think are missing are in no particular order;


Grob Tutor
Chinook (Heli)
Puma (Another Heli)

these threads often make me laugh, as these peeps know we already have them, although freeware, and not payware top quality, I defy anyone to get a better free one for FSX!

at UKMIL we have already made TRUE FSX models of those above, espec the chinook, you will not find a better one anywhere, for zero cost