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Cowboy1968

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When I first stated in the flight Sim community it was with the Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator and then i moved into CFS2, but now I have embraced FS9. I have and own FSX but I don't have it in my system at this time, because it comes across to me at to cartoonist and Arcadish to me.

Well now for the real reason of this post. Yes I love playing around in FS9, but not in the modern GPS era jets that you just set in the cockpit and watch it do all the work crap. Keep you Boeing 787. I have backdated my install through the help of several websites and several payware and freeware aircraft designers, to the period that covers 1955 to 1965.

Thanks to AlphaSim, California Classic Propliners, HJG and to many others to name. I have recaptured a great period in aviation.

I teach history on the high school level and at a community college in my area. Here is how my hobby has come to use. I use CFS2 to show my kids some interest in World War II. I have set the sims up on a private computer I use in the classroom. When I teach about the World War II air combat I let them look at and let them play around with the planes from that era. I have them fly mission profiles. I recently cloned my FS9 install over to that computer and have started using the computer to show the cold war era aircraft. Yes have even designed flights that replicate the interception of bombers, and so on.

The best part is that a lot of these great aircraft would be lost to the dusty archives only seen when someone happened by a museum. Here the kids can see what was flown in that period.

So I use it not only for fun, but for teaching.

What other ways have you used our beloved sims for?
 
Of late it seems I mainly use FS and, prior to that CFS2, to hone my re-installing skills, lol.

Either software and/or hardware has had a habit of proving to me how much I lack in the 'good-luck' department. By rights I should be clinically depressed by now.

In a way, I use it like you. Through 4 (soon 6) installs, I recreate the history I know about or learn new (old?) stuff and recreate that too.

I'm sure Rami used to use it in a teaching capacity at some point in the past (CFS2).

regards,
Jamie
 
I like what your doing in the classroom, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how your getting away with it in this day of PC and wimpy people. I hope you don't get fired for bringing virtual weapons to school.
 
Terry said:
I like what your doing in the classroom, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how your getting away with it in this day of PC and wimpy people. I hope you don't get fired for bringing virtual weapons to school.
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I send a release and letter home to the parents. If they sign, I let the kids study the planes, if they don't those students just have to listen to lecture and look at the pictures and plastic models i use. Though they don't show as much interest as the students who get to do the virtual walk around and the flights...and so on.

I did have to give a presentation to the school board and when I brought it into the college classroom i had to demonstrate it to the Deans.
 
I started out with CFS 1, had issues with CFS 2 on my old computer and built this one for CFS 3. After a year or two of tweaking CFS 3, FS9 came out and ran great from the start. I've been with it ever since.

My main FS9 install is what I call FS 1954 which is loosely based in the late 50s, early 60s. The only AI jets flying about are a few military ones and DH 106 Comets and you rarely see the Comet except at a few airports (Heathrow, Cape Town and Kai Tak). Almost everything else is piston powered except for some Soviet turboprops. I use the California Classics scenery and AI (along with some custom AI).

With all this tweaking and modifying, I still mostly fly online. Go figure....

ETA: This old comp is now about 10 years old and FSX just won't run on it. I'll not knock FSX however. A lot of folks seem to like it just as I like FS9.
 
Willy said:
I started out with CFS 1, had issues with CFS 2 on my old computer and built this one for CFS 3. After a year or two of tweaking CFS 3, FS9 came out and ran great from the start. I've been with it ever since.

My main FS9 install is what I call FS 1954 which is loosely based in the late 50s, early 60s. The only AI jets flying about are a few military ones and DH 106 Comets and you rarely see the Comet except at a few airports (Heathrow, Cape Town and Kai Tak). Almost everything else is piston powered except for some Soviet turboprops. I use the California Classics scenery and AI (along with some custom AI).

With all this tweaking and modifying, I still mostly fly online. Go figure....

ETA: This old comp is now about 10 years old and FSX just won't run on it. I'll not knock FSX however. A lot of folks seem to like it just as I like FS9.
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where did you get tho old military traffic from? Are you willing to share it?
 
you would say the average year for my setup is around 1960 but I have flights that go between 55 to 65. oh and its a blast trying to chase down a Boeing 707-120 at 30,000 in an Northrop F-89 Scorpion. Its bad when a civil airliner can fly faster then a loaded B-52D, but Boeing 707 and the Douglas DC-8 were both capable of that little trick. No wonder Air Defense Command (ADC) wanted the F-102 and the F106 so bad.
 
What other ways have you used our beloved sims for?
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..evolution of a specific aircraft design like the Mustang or Canberra

..evolution of jet aircraft from the Pioneer to the... Super Hornet or B-70 Valkrie

..application of mathematics in creating a flight plan, and flying that plan using VOR and ADF

..a geography lesson by taking an aircraft over a specific area, such as the Cascade Mountains (my favorite) or place of your chosing (add on scenery helps a lot)

..evolution of cockpit design and layouts from biplanes to modern combat a/c.

Having background info in a book or video adds to the knowledge that FS provides. Going to a museum is even better.

:ernae:
--WH
 
I used Fs9 to learn to fly .... To the point where my first real flight in a PA28-161 was completed with my CFI pretty much sitting with his hands in his lap. He did of course get to teach me a lot of the things that FS simply can't teach but I would say it definitely saved him a lot of aggravation and me a lot of time and money.
If nothing else I could go back and re-fly a lesson at home to get the hang of things.
Want to practice crosswinds....what better place than FS where you can work your way up to and beyond the POH limitation of the aircraft you are flying.

Then after completing the required logbook time I used FS again to aid in getting my IFR ticket. I modified a FS9 PA28-181 to fly by the book and match the real world 1976 Archer I was flying by then. Again there is no substitute for the real thing in certain ways but at the same time FS can do many things so much better than the real world. Since the little FBO where I got my training did not have a simulator I met with my CFI at my house and used mine. I still paid him for most of the time since it was after all still training he provided.

Now I still use FS to fly to airports I had not previously visited in my Saratoga, Carenado was nice enough to build one that is just about perfect in every way to my 1982 PA32-301 FG. And with a bit of tweaking again the panel and performance match the real thing to the point where I know what works and what doesn't.
While not accepted by the FAA it also does Moslem nicely to stay current on IFR procedures.

And then there are of course the big four engines prop liners, especially my triple tailed queens of the skies that I love to fly....just because I will not very likely get to fly one of those for real.

Cheers
Stefan
 
My Uni uses a slightly modified version of FS9 with a cockpit setup to run it's Aircraft Simulator as part of the Aeronautics and Astronautics course I'm doing. Back when it used FS8 it was also used as the base for a documentary for Discovery (I think) on the Dambusters.

Personally I really like to fly anything I know I'm never going to actually get a chance to.
 
Sounds like pretty cool stuff CowBoy. I wish I had a teacher like you in HighSchool, as well as FS9 back then.

You can easily make air traffic with TrafficTool also known as TTool. Learn to write the script strings instead of using goofy converters as they usually mess up the traffic settings. Pretty cool what you can do with FS. Its so incredible how 'expandable' it is.



Bill
 
I use FS9 to experience the joy of flying...or as close to the joy of flying as I will ever get. I don't have the money for real flight, don't have rich friends with planes. So, FS9 is my ticket to flying...and crashing. Mostly GA planes, single engine or twin engine. With an occasional romp in a 4 engine or fast mil jet. Either low and slow or low and fast. I keep below 10 thousand feet at all times...and am usually down around 5 thousand feet. I like to see the world passing by below me.....to me, flying at 30 thousand feet with nothing but blue sky to look at is BORING.

OBIO
 
To fly the aeroplanes I've flown in real life over the South West of England, an area that fly in regularly and venture out from occasionally. With VFR scenery, local autogen, AI and additional items, it can be very realistic indeed. Won't upgrade to FSX as am very happy with the way things are now.

Happy Landings,

Martin
 
I'm using FS9 at the moment to practice IFR procedures since I'm renewing my instrument rating next week. I'll be doing it in a Turbo 210, so it's unfortunate that Carenado didn't do the T210 for FS9, but I find the Carenado Mooney can be flown to replicate the perfomance of the 210, albeit normally aspirated. I find FS9 invaluable for giving me a platform to practice IFR procedures; sector entries, holding patterns, DME arcs, and the various approaches, and all can be down at my home airfield as it will be done in real life. It's also good for brushing up on checklist procedures and radio calls.
 
I haven't fired up my Sim for flying in a couple of months, due to my main rig giving me fits, but when I do fly, it can be anything from taking a 748F from New York to Miami, to running the Grand Canyon in a P-38. I've also been known to take a Howard 500 from Zurich to Sion. I love that drop into the canyon there! My favorite part of flying is actually landing, so I like to make that as much of a challenge as I can, from that 748F with max cargo weight and fumes in the tank to oddball approaches like Sion or Innsbruck. And the crappier the weather, the better I like it!
 
Tom Clayton said:
I haven't fired up my Sim for flying in a couple of months, due to my main rig giving me fits, but when I do fly, it can be anything from taking a 748F from New York to Miami, to running the Grand Canyon in a P-38. I've also been known to take a Howard 500 from Zurich to Sion. I love that drop into the canyon there! My favorite part of flying is actually landing, so I like to make that as much of a challenge as I can, from that 748F with max cargo weight and fumes in the tank to oddball approaches like Sion or Innsbruck. And the crappier the weather, the better I like it!
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Tom, have you tried to duplicate landings at the airports in the History Chanel's "Ten Most Dangerous Airports?"

I did Lukla once....

Peace+

Romeo-Delta
 
Well...

I've been in some form of flight simulator since the late '80s. Back then it was just the suspension of disbelief, that for one shining moment I was actually flying a Cessna 182RG, not a bunch of pixels in formation. It was almost a palpable high, very intoxicating, very addictive.
Years would go by. I would try other sims (I actually learned more about how to take off and land with Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe than FS 5.1) but would always come back to Flight Simulator. Some of my favorite simming memories involved Sunday mornings flying some BAO FlightShop creation over Antigua while listening to Jimmy Buffett on the radio. Along would come FS98 and better scenery and some more epic flights. I learned how to download add-on aircraft from some new technology called 'the Internet.'
Then I got married. Unfortunately my wife didn't (and still doesn't) understand my passion. I feel sorry for her.
Along came CFS1 and CFS2 which oddly enough were very calming for me (brought back memories of SWOTL).
As a birthday gift my brother got me FS2004. Wow, what an incredible experience. I really don't have any desire to go to FSX at this time; the laptop can hardly handle FS9, although my brother's rig seems to handle FSX beautifully.
While I really enjoy the flights I usually spend most of my time tweaking the sim, messing with panels, paintjobs, flight parameters, scenery, et cetera. In fact the only thing I really haven't done is build a 3d model, at least not since those halcyon days with FS 5.1.
Flightsimming is a passion for me. Not just the flying part, but all aspects of flightsimming. Being able to escape into a virtual world and being able to modify elements of that virtual world to my liking is a fantastic experience. I still get that suspension of disbelief on most flights. Who knows it might be me channelling my inner Walter Mitty. It's not like I would be able to actually fly a real F-84F Thunderstreak across the Atlantic (yes it can be done; you have to gas up in Bermuda and the Azores) for example. I doubt I will own a real HondaJet in my lifetime but lo and behold, N420RV is in my virtual hangar. Flightsimming allows me to fly all sorts of aircraft, from the smallest ultralight to superjumbo jets, from the Wright Flyer to the Dreamliner and beyond.
Flightsimming is also a learning experience. For every plane I fly I look up information about it.
I also realize, thanks to places like Sim-Outhouse, that there are other people out there that are just as or more passionate about aviation and flightsimming as I am. You all keep me sane, and I appreciate that greatly.:ernae:
 
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