Why isn't there any serious business jet in the FSX add-ons catalog ?

[empeck]

You know what happens if a shop builds something a bit 'different'.. there are immediately hundreds of post saying "nice, but I wanted a.... and I have a budget"

OR it is praised like Lotussim's Albatros

 

[Hurricane91]

...no Dassault 7X,...

The Dassault Falcon 7X by Premier Aircraft Design is nice freeware. Is that not what you are looking for?

 

[krazycolin]

By US law, American fighter/bombers are considered to be the property of the US govt. and therefore, not the property of the company that made it/them. Hence the reason that, though they have tried, the companies that make these planes have no rights to remove or control them. Turbosquid is a good example of this. I've had a ton of planes on there at one time or another and never had an issue.

It does need to be stated that the US copyright laws are much more stringent and the companies far more litiginous than "outsiders". I seriously wonder if we (a Canadian based company) were to make a Gulfstream and sold it only in Europe via Simmarket, would they even bother? Would they be able to stop it? It's not the same laws at all...

 

[Cleartheprop]

The Dassault Falcon 7X by Premier Aircraft Design is nice freeware. Is that not what you are looking for?

This freeware 7X is light years away from reality. It does not reproduce the actual airplane systems, nor the Honeywell Primus EPIC system. I understand it might be a nice addition to any FSX but does not fit into my field of investigation (Accurate systems and avionics, such as PMDG and more. An aircraft than can be flown by the books (the actual ones).

 

[ryanbatc]

The Dassault Falcon 7X by Premier Aircraft Design is nice freeware. Is that not what you are looking for?

Ok, I'm going to be the one to say it - PAD aircraft are really dated now... most look like FS98 era... It's not suitable freeware for FSX imho.

 

[MCDesigns]

I seriously wonder if we (a Canadian based company) were to make a Gulfstream and sold it only in Europe via Simmarket, would they even bother? Would they be able to stop it? It's not the same laws at all...

Now there's a great idea!!!!!

 

[Kiwikat]

Ok, I'm going to be the one to say it - PAD aircraft are really dated now... It's not suitable freeware for FSX imho.

Not to mention they aren't actually made for FSX...

I loved their turbo beaver in FS9. It would be cool if somehow they started making native FSX planes...

 

[Wombat_VC]

This freeware 7X is light years away from reality. It does not reproduce the actual airplane systems, nor the Honeywell Primus EPIC system. I understand it might be a nice addition to any FSX but does not fit into my field of investigation (Accurate systems and avionics, such as PMDG and more. An aircraft than can be flown by the books (the actual ones).

I have been reading that a certain very established Pilatus PC-12 maker had flatly refused to do the NG version because of the Primus. Reason given - it will not make them money. Following the same line of reasoning, we can rule out all advanced biz jets.

Side note: please do not misunderstand, I am not questioning that decision. At the end of the day, we all must put food on our tables.

 

[warchild]

Side note: please do not misunderstand, I am not questioning that decision. At the end of the day, we all must put food on our tables.

yeahhh, true enough, but sometimes i wonder if we dont sometimes lose site of whats really important: The community. Just a curious passing thought.. if people are in it only for the money, maybe they should go away..

 

[MCDesigns]

yeahhh, true enough, but sometimes i wonder if we dont sometimes lose site of whats really important: The community. Just a curious passing thought.. if people are in it only for the money, maybe they should go away..

In all fairness, I have seen many in the "community" being very demanding and at times just plain unreasonable, especially with payware developers, so where do we draw the line? If you are a commercial vendor, your number one priority should be the bottom line, it's up to us to have the principles to not buy from a certain vendor if we don't like their attitude, it's what I do and have a couple I will never support.

 

[warchild]

You have a point Michael. but I'm just an old idealist who should have been a hippy, and somehow ended up fighting a war instead.. meh.. things are never as simple as i wish they could be.. :;sigh:; yup, i'm a hopless idealist and romantic, and probably will be till my dieing day.. :;chuckles:; i agree that income is important. its not my bottom line but, i know i'm kinda weird with different values than most. still Bills have to be paid and kids need to be fed if you have any, and thats always got to be taken into consideration when planning a new project. But i can dream, at least a little.. ..

 

[pilottj]

Aerosoft is working on a CRJ, perhaps they could find time down the road to morph it into it's cousin the Global Express. I read on the Eaglesoft forum too that they like the idea of a Falcon 7X but just have too much on their plates at the moment, perhaps later. I thought they had a CL-604 at one point in the works which too is related to the Global Express. Maybe after they finish the Twinstar they will have room to look into the long range bizjet field.

CHeers
TJ

 

[Bjoern]

It's not suitable freeware for FSX imho.

Then go and make suitable versions.



Modeling for FSX isn't hard at all. Just time-intensive.

 

[MCDesigns]

Then go and make suitable versions.



Modeling for FSX isn't hard at all. Just time-intensive.

the comes the texturing/UV mapping which is even more time intensive, LOL

 

[N400QW]

yeahhh, true enough, but sometimes i wonder if we dont sometimes lose site of whats really important: The community. Just a curious passing thought.. if people are in it only for the money, maybe they should go away..

Don't worry, if they don't make money they will go away...:mixedsmi:

 

[N400QW]

Aerosoft is working on a CRJ, perhaps they could find time down the road to morph it into it's cousin the Global Express. I read on the Eaglesoft forum too that they like the idea of a Falcon 7X but just have too much on their plates at the moment, perhaps later. I thought they had a CL-604 at one point in the works which too is related to the Global Express. Maybe after they finish the Twinstar they will have room to look into the long range bizjet field.

CHeers
TJ

Following the Twin Star we have a Cessna CJ1+ w/ Full FMC along the lines of CX Extreme 2.0 in depth of simulation. In fact it is called Citation CJ1+ Extreme 2.0.
We have toyed with the idea of an in depth Falcon 50 but have a "secret project" that will precede any other new products.:mixedsmi:

 

[Bjoern]

the comes the texturing/UV mapping which is even more time intensive, LOL

But doable.

yeahhh, true enough, but sometimes i wonder if we dont sometimes lose site of whats really important: The community. Just a curious passing thought.. if people are in it only for the money, maybe they should go away..

Don't make me dream, Pam...oops, too late.

*Dreams away*

 

[pilottj]

Sounds good Ron, really looking foward to the TwinStar. Whatever you guys make will be excellent, can't wait to find out what your secret project is You guys are the bizjet experts so if anyone takes on the long range bizjet field, I am sure it will be Eaglesoft. In the meantime just call the Citation X your 'long range' jet. With one fuel stop it can go as far as the GV. Or you could make your PMDG 747 a corperate aircraft.

Cheers
TJ

 

[srgalahad]

This freeware 7X is light years away from reality. It does not reproduce the actual airplane systems, nor the Honeywell Primus EPIC system. I understand it might be a nice addition to any FSX but does not fit into my field of investigation (Accurate systems and avionics, such as PMDG and more. An aircraft than can be flown by the books (the actual ones).

• 2200hrs - off to bed with everything tucked safely in the EFB for the 0700 departure - 3.5 hrs should be a nice flight - home before kid's bedtime..
• 0420hrs - wake up to see flashing light on the alarm clock indicating overnight power failure - mad dash to shower and get dressed.
• 0440hrs - fire up laptop to find ISP is down for mtce. - off to the hangar without breakfast to recheck wx.
• 0515hrs - dash through Ops to find FO has got the flight plan up on the dispatch system and has wx updated - hmmm. the low has stalled and we now have barely IFR minimums at destination.. oh, and BTW skipper, catering lost the food order..
• 0520hrs - pay rampie $20 to run to Denny's for 7 -Breakfasts To Go and get them stashed in the galley.
• 0545 - start pre-flight inspection - hopefully it'll still be dark so pax don't see dirt streaks the attendant missed in wash last night...
• 0645hrs - customer's secretary calls to advise pax are delayed an hour... followed by FO reporting destination has now gone to 100 & 1/4 with freezing fog - thank goodness for hour delay!
• 0820hrs - pax arrive, load plane, complete start sequence and call for clx. ATC advises 20 min. ramp hold due debris on runway being cleaned up from broken mtce vehicle.
• 0900hrs - ATC gives taxi clx - #17 for departure -estimate one hour from now. recheck wx and investigate new alternate as fog still not burning off and now expanding...
• 0905hrs - pax call on intercom to enquire when they should reschedule meetings at destination

0915hrs - attempt to uninstall Accu-World v2.0 and system crashes at same time wife says the plumber is here

light years away from reality...

 

[N400QW]

• 2200hrs - off to bed with everything tucked safely in the EFB for the 0700 departure - 3.5 hrs should be a nice flight - home before kid's bedtime..
• 0420hrs - wake up to see flashing light on the alarm clock indicating overnight power failure - mad dash to shower and get dressed.
• 0440hrs - fire up laptop to find ISP is down for mtce. - off to the hangar without breakfast to recheck wx.
• 0515hrs - dash through Ops to find FO has got the flight plan up on the dispatch system and has wx updated - hmmm. the low has stalled and we now have barely IFR minimums at destination.. oh, and BTW skipper, catering lost the food order..
• 0520hrs - pay rampie $20 to run to Denny's for 7 -Breakfasts To Go and get them stashed in the galley.
• 0545 - start pre-flight inspection - hopefully it'll still be dark so pax don't see dirt streaks the attendant missed in wash last night...
• 0645hrs - customer's secretary calls to advise pax are delayed an hour... followed by FO reporting destination has now gone to 100 & 1/4 with freezing fog - thank goodness for hour delay!
• 0820hrs - pax arrive, load plane, complete start sequence and call for clx. ATC advises 20 min. ramp hold due debris on runway being cleaned up from broken mtce vehicle.
• 0900hrs - ATC gives taxi clx - #17 for departure -estimate one hour from now. recheck wx and investigate new alternate as fog still not burning off and now expanding...
• 0905hrs - pax call on intercom to enquire when they should reschedule meetings at destination

0915hrs - attempt to uninstall Accu-World v2.0 and system crashes at same time wife says the plumber is here

light years away from reality...

Ha Ha, Hilarious but so close to true..:isadizzy: