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Wilco: Tilt Rotor (Bell Agusta 609)

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The DL version seems to be released:
http://www.wilcopub.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=prod_tiltrotor

Has anybody bought it already? Does it have a native FSX model?
Wilco is one of those companies who are making it very hard to understand if it's a native FSX model or only a compatible FSX aircraft with FS8/9 model.

EDIT:
"High resolution reflective and chrome textures, dynamic shine, night lighting, bump-mapped detail (FSX only)" ..I guess a native FSX model.
 
Not really my type of aircraft, but interesting!!! I wonder how the frames are with these gauges and animations and if it´s FSX native. No definite information on this in the text!

Alex
 
Thoe6969 said:
Compatable tells it all.
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If it is a FeelThere product, actually, it doesn't. I was surprised to find that many of the FT updates bringing their products from FS9 to FSX actually included native FSX models. I don't believe bump maps are supported in FS9 models, so if they are present as stated, that implies native FSX (hopefully one of the developers around here can corroborate or say otherwise on that).

It is, unfortunately, a case of waiting to see, when someone gets one and flies it!

Ian P.
 
I like the Tilt Rotor,but the sound set I do not like at all...Plus when she started it was pumping black smoke well before the starter was hit and the props even spun ...It seemed to me.......
 
Some of the screenshots show self-shadowing. That indicates true FSX for sure. I'm just waiting on the performance report (FPS compared to default aircraft).
 
Hmm the gauges are looking to me like default gauges (the Garmin with a different background).

http://www.bellagusta.com/air_ba_mainVid.cfm#QTVR

For me the price is a little bit too high for a pure "fun" aircraft, but on the other hand it seems to be extremely cool and a lot of fun... :redf:

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I think I would buy this, but it will have to wait until after Christmas and my restraints are broken regarding some of their prior releases. I want to hear what others have to say before purchase... but, if I like what I hear, I will buy this. I like the concept and developers working hard and developing such interesting things should be rewarded.
 
Thanks for the heads up guys! I didnt know it was released.

:ernae:


I have waited YEARS for a Bell Agusta.....



Bill
 
The funny thing here is that after all the complaints from the US board members that everything was too expensive not too long ago, now the GB£ has taken a tanking, the Brits now keep looking at things and going "I'm not paying that!" - at £32.22, this one may well be one of those occasions for many. ;)

Ian P.
 
IanP said:
The funny thing here is that after all the complaints from the US board members that everything was too expensive not too long ago, now the GB£ has taken a tanking, the Brits now keep looking at things and going "I'm not paying that!" - at £32.22, this one may well be one of those occasions for many. ;)

Ian P.
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Here here - well said Ian :applause:
 
IanP said:
If it is a FeelThere product, actually, it doesn't. I was surprised to find that many of the FT updates bringing their products from FS9 to FSX actually included native FSX models. I don't believe bump maps are supported in FS9 models, so if they are present as stated, that implies native FSX (hopefully one of the developers around here can corroborate or say otherwise on that).

It is, unfortunately, a case of waiting to see, when someone gets one and flies it!

Ian P.
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Bump mapping, self shadowing can only be produced with a pure FSX model, be carefull with images that show self shadowing, some of it can be skill full textures which fake the effect, like we used to do in FS9 etc, a good way to spot this is to look at all the images you can find and see if the shadows all fall the same way in every image, though the Vert stab is a dead give away, texture artists never texture that shadow onto anything so if you see vert stab shadows its 99% chance its a FSx model.

I believe the core developers are Aeroplane Heaven working for/with Feelthere and shipped through Wilco, irrespective of authenticity or RL variants, its certainly an interesting subject matter and the mesh looks very clean and crisp from the screen shots I've seen

Best

Michael
 
No official statement of course, but take it from me that the FSX version is native FSX model, not a FS9 port-over.

:ernae: Rob
 
rcbarend said:
No official statement of course, but take it from me that the FSX version is native FSX model, not a FS9 port-over.

:ernae: Rob
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I 110% concur that the FSX one is native. Imairborne at the moment with lightbloom ticked and no white screen. Will post pic and fps report when complete with landing at MoCats Havanna. Also in fairness why isnt this also posted in the Fs9 thread?
 
rcbarend said:
No official statement of course, but take it from me that the FSX version is native FSX model, not a FS9 port-over.

:ernae: Rob
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I remember Bazz saying this would be both FSX pure and FS9 pure.

:d

Just have someone who has it to check the FSX Model folder(s) and see if it has an interior and exterior model set. If 2, then its FSX.

Sure is a beautiful bird...



Bill
 
Just to clear any confusion:

Yes AH developed this for Wilco.
A bit of a departure for us and I can assure you, also a bit of a challenge!

Rob B. did a fantastic job with the VTOL/VSTOL under harrowing circumstances due to lack of official info and guestimates needed everywhere.

Jerry likewise, trying to get the thing to do what it does when MS has no provision for this type of aeroplane. I am in awe of both guys.

It's FSX dedicated and FS9 dedicated. FS9 has a couple of patches coming to improve some issues which needed a workaround. FSX has so much more available for this sort of project but we've got the FS9 behaving pretty darned good now and rates are excellent on good machines.

It's a blast to fly and a real test of pilot skill.

On good machines (it needs a fairly high spec but then so does FSX) it performs with excellent frame rates, despite carrying a bucketload of detail and features. As usual, a lot is going to depend on one's settings and the state of the vid card and memory.

If you do get it, I can promise a bunch of fun.
 
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