Wilco Tiltrotor's out

hang on guys, give him a chance. Wilco's site does specify that there are limitations in the FS9 model. I admit I'm a little surprised the door doesn't open, but Bazzar's right - that's the price of progress. The way I see it; I'm delighted that developers are still making models for FS9 at all...what's an animation or two between friends? I'll tell you what - I'd have fairly choked if the BA 609 had been an FSX only model. X has never run for me despite great gear :banghead: - that would have meant no Tiltrotor at all :isadizzy:

LPXO

PS I've spent the evening doing circuits, hovering practice and generally boring holes in the sky around Arlington Tx in "Prototype2" (how cool is that!) ... yes there are bugs, but this thing is a hoot to fly! When I get good enough I'll fly her home, to Auckland New Zealand, via Russia and Asia... she can park in the hangar next to Lionheart's Epic which had the same delivery ride :) Hope there's a Bell service centre local...
 
that's the price of progress????

No comment...

Citation x, has it is the animations in the ground, is the woman seated…
it is simply that they have made a job lose interesting itself in fs9 and they have not specified it in the product page…
And since not is low cost, is not as well as pleasant like what!
Beyond to their usual defect putting in commerce a product with bugs....
And they are not excuses that the model is heavy in frame rate…
They began to reduce the texture in dxt3…..
 
I'm not getting into a debate about this, it is a fact that FS9 is now a past generation simulator. whether we like it or not. It is not possible to put the level of function and detail that an FSX model has, into an FS9 version, without significant time and resource spent creating all manner of workarounds and special code. All of which costs time which is overhead for a developer.

And if such a thing were to happen, would you pay an FSX price? I doubt it.

If you expect the same content for both simulators , expect twice the price.

Fact of life mate.
 
Yes,but at least fairies make a done good product and no bugs, mate, And especially expect a my demand for refound.
From the parts mine the one which is written to us on the homepage that not specific these things calls deceptive publicity, from the parts yours I do not know, mate...
This is last time that I buy a your product.….
 
bazzar said:
. . . . . If you expect the same content for both simulators , expect twice the price.
Fact of life mate.
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Not necessarily Bazaar. I know of at least one other very talented developer who built an incredibly detailed aircraft (far more detailed than the Tiltrotor with all animations in both versions) for both FS9 and FSX and released it for something very close to half of what Wilco is asking for the Tiltrotor.
 
As long as gear, flaps, rotors and nacelles are all animated (and the nacelles themselves tilt) I've got all I'm asking for. A single opening and closing exit of some kind would be nice to avoid the feeling that you're either locked in or locked out, but other than that...

I don't need an animated pilot, as I'm never really going to see that, nor do I care for an opening rear ramp. Personal preference. :ernae:

It's looking gorgeous, and I can't wait to fly it. :ernae:
 
Well, for what it is worth, I, for one, have NEVER had a problem with my AH products. Some are more resource intensive than others, but none have had any problems. I know I fly my Spitfires all the time, the P-38s even more frequently... the P-38F and the Spitfire Mk.Vc by AH are my most-flown warbirds. I have always found Bazz and Mike to be fair and considerate of any concerns I might have, responses have been prompt and helpful, etc.
I short, I see no reason for too much AH bashing! and I look forward to eventually procuring more of their work.
 
PilatusTurbo said:
As long as gear, flaps, rotors and nacelles are all animated (and the nacelles themselves tilt) I've got all I'm asking for. A single opening and closing exit of some kind would be nice to avoid the feeling that you're either locked in or locked out, but other than that...

I don't need an animated pilot, as I'm never really going to see that, nor do I care for an opening rear ramp. Personal preference. :ernae:

It's looking gorgeous, and I can't wait to fly it. :ernae:
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I couldn't agree more! I have no need for 8 opening exterior panels and doors; I hate the 'stewardess' in my CitationX, and am glad she is not on board my Tilt rotor; as far as external eye-candy, my main issue is/was with the lighting problem; Since I bought it to FLY it, the rest is kind of fluff to me and I am glad to see it for FS9. **The issues are being taken care of**; were that not the case I would probably be a wee bit more disappointed...overall, great product.
 
Agreed 110% the Fs9 version to me is great. She's a challenge to fly around Holger's Misty and glacier scenery. Now if only the ai geese stay away from my props.:friday:. This is my faverite all time Bazzar Aircraft. Goes right next to my lionheart Epic.:applause:
 
EMatheson said:
I, for one, have NEVER had a problem with my AH products.
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make that two. My Mossies are great and I love my Spits.

....I have always found Bazz and Mike to be fair and considerate of any concerns I might have, responses have been prompt and helpful, etc....
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Agreed.

...I short, I see no reason for too much AH bashing! and I look forward to eventually procuring more of their work....
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Yeah, I noticed that with the mossie release, :isadizzy: no need in my eyes. And I must save my pennies for the Tigermoth and Lancs. Not sure about this one though, does it have a turret with twin brownings? :d

:ernae:
Jamie
 
Oh man oh man, I wanna review this thing soo much. :d It's going to be a blast to fly, and will come out lookin' real good. :ernae:

I'm also happy there's no little animated persons on board, either. I don't like seeing the weird lookin' polygon people. However, once again, just personal preference.

I do like the idea of the medic in back with patient for the FSX version.
 
Once I get my hands on the FS9 patch I'm going to wring it out and see what kind of capabilities it's got; Figure I will use some of my more challenging sceneries :ernae: and put it through its paces.
 
OK...well it appears as though Wilco has indeed posted the updated Version (V1.1) on their website...I have just downloaded it and am going to re-install this afternoon. Bazzar, thanks for helping get this squared away. Much appreciated.
 
Just got done my first test flight and I am happy to report that all of the issues I originally had with this aircraft (most notably the lighting) have been resolved. It is a blast to fly (once you figure it out) and isn't too rough on frames. I stand by my original assertion that the sound pack sucks though. But hey...you will enjoy it so much the sounds may not matter. Thanks Bazzar!
 
No worries mate, glad you are enjoying this bird.

The important thing to remember is that we have had to develop this in complete darkness. Outside a few news articles and the brochure(!) there is very little info of a technical nature.

Sounds are a complete guess at this stage as there is so little to go on.
However, there's a complete upgrade path for this release so keep an eye out at the Wilco site. We may well be including an upgraded sound package as we learn more.

The real thing gets accreditation in 2010 so when we know more about the aeroplane, you will.:engel016:
 
There are a handful of vid's on you tube that might be helpful for various details and give hints of what the thing is like in many areas (but little detail, nothing a designer could use directly). Check out the promo vid from Bell Augusta (it's called something like BA 609 and shows the nose of prototype2 in the vid display). It's got a musical background but there's a few moments when they play the external sounds, both hovering & esp one moment where the aircraft does a high speed fly-by in mountains - sounds very deep & meaty! There's also a glance of the panel which shows details of the PFD and secondary screen layouts with the instruments running and the aircraft at flight idle. It's only a second or two long tho, you'd need to get a screen cap to really analyse it; but you can clearly see the unique layout, ASI, Altimeter and by the look of it, the nacelles position indicator. How much you'd learn that a developer could apply tho, is questionable.

Felixthreeone, if you really don't like the sounds try the V-22 sounds by Aaron Swindle on Flightsim.com. They're for FS2002 but I'd imagine they'll work fine in FS9. I'll give em a check myself after work tonight.

LPXO
 
LonelyplanetXO said:
There are a handful of vid's on you tube that might be helpful for various details and give hints of what the thing is like in many areas (but little detail, nothing a designer could use directly). Check out the promo vid from Bell Augusta (it's called something like BA 609 and shows the nose of prototype2 in the vid display). It's got a musical background but there's a few moments when they play the external sounds, both hovering & esp one moment where the aircraft does a high speed fly-by in mountains - sounds very deep & meaty! There's also a glance of the panel which shows details of the PFD and secondary screen layouts with the instruments running and the aircraft at flight idle. It's only a second or two long tho, you'd need to get a screen cap to really analyse it; but you can clearly see the unique layout, ASI, Altimeter and by the look of it, the nacelles position indicator. How much you'd learn that a developer could apply tho, is questionable.

Felixthreeone, if you really don't like the sounds try the V-22 sounds by Aaron Swindle on Flightsim.com. They're for FS2002 but I'd imagine they'll work fine in FS9. I'll give em a check myself after work tonight.

LPXO
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Seems thatwe are on the same page, LPXO. I am going to give that a try. And thanks Barry, I appreciate the info!
 
Believe me, we've got all the videos, we've read all the articles. The real protoype has a working title panel. You''ll see a lot of changes as the development goes on.

Currently it appears to be fitted with vertical arrays.

It is our guess though that on production models, certainly for executive use, they'll go for Synthetic Vision type arrays which would make commercial sense and why we opted for that look. Military multi-role cockpits? Anybody's guess.

One thing's for sure, when we get to know about it it will go in.:engel016:
 
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