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Windows 10

Seems to me that everyone is avoiding the key question here.

You're talking about the Win10 upgrade policy but haven't answered the question about how the Win10 upgrade will handle FSX or FS9.

My conclusion is that nobody knows. All the more reason for me not to upgrade.

I can tell you right now that FSXA works just fine in Win 10. I just got through with a flight. I have been testing the Win 10 insider preview for quite a while and FSX was the first thing I installed as well as a copy of 3ds Max. Later today I will install FS9 and see how that does so we can answer that question. I have to say that FSX is the box version and I have not installed any addons so I can't say how anything else will work. I'm not going to get into the other details of Win 10 as they do not pertain to the thread, only the questions of FSX and FS9. I will also attempt to install some addons as well to see how they do. If you have any nice addons you would like me to test well just send them to me. :biggrin-new:
 
I can tell you right now that FSXA works just fine in Win 10. I just got through with a flight. I have been testing the Win 10 insider preview for quite a while and FSX was the first thing I installed as well as a copy of 3ds Max. Later today I will install FS9 and see how that does so we can answer that question. I have to say that FSX is the box version and I have not installed any addons so I can't say how anything else will work. I'm not going to get into the other details of Win 10 as they do not pertain to the thread, only the questions of FSX and FS9. I will also attempt to install some addons as well to see how they do. If you have any nice addons you would like me to test well just send them to me. :biggrin-new:

That's very good to know. Thanks for that.
Now, all we need is for someone to upgrade an already-working FSX system (Win7/8/8.1) to Win10 - and tell us that FSX still works. Any volunteers?

Dave
 
I can tell you right now that FSXA works just fine in Win 10. I just got through with a flight. I have been testing the Win 10 insider preview for quite a while and FSX was the first thing I installed as well as a copy of 3ds Max. Later today I will install FS9 and see how that does so we can answer that question. I have to say that FSX is the box version and I have not installed any addons so I can't say how anything else will work. I'm not going to get into the other details of Win 10 as they do not pertain to the thread, only the questions of FSX and FS9. I will also attempt to install some addons as well to see how they do. If you have any nice addons you would like me to test well just send them to me. :biggrin-new:
:adoration::adoration::adoration:

Thanks.

Just to put a little more spin on this topic, my primary concern is the upgrade of Win10 over my current OS. Does it change things so much that FSX or FS9 no longer work? Does it remove or disable existing installs of ActiveX, Framework.net, etc., which supports existing software on my computer. Does it overwrite my current registry to force me to reinstall everything.

Most addons are not a problem, but some do have registry entries for security or uninstalling, etc. I'd hate to start all over again from the beginning.
 
That's very good to know. Thanks for that.
Now, all we need is for someone to upgrade an already-working FSX system (Win7/8/8.1) to Win10 - and tell us that FSX still works. Any volunteers?

Dave

:adoration::adoration::adoration:

Thanks.

Just to put a little more spin on this topic, my primary concern is the upgrade of Win10 over my current OS. Does it change things so much that FSX or FS9 no longer work? Does it remove or disable existing installs of ActiveX, Framework.net, etc., which supports existing software on my computer. Does it overwrite my current registry to force me to reinstall everything.

Most addons are not a problem, but some do have registry entries for security or uninstalling, etc. I'd hate to start all over again from the beginning.

I installed Win 10 over an existing Win 7 setup and I'll get into more detail a little later because I have to leave for a Dr. appointment. I will say this, FS9 works in Win 10 but it's not a straight forward setup, again I'll get into more detail when I get back.
 
This is a YouTube video of one guys experience so far with Windows 10 and FSX Steam edition, but it is encouraging. NC

 
DirectX 9

I have been a Windows 10 Insider for some time now, having upgraded from 8.1. I continued to use FSX (with DirectX 9) as usual, until...

With the "final" update to Windows 10 10240, FSX would only show a black screen. Sound was OK, but no graphic display at all.

It turned out, after a lot of help from SOH fellows, that Windows 10 was using DirectX 12, and did not recognize the installed DirectX 9.

I had two options, both of which got FSX working again:

1 - I enabled DirectX 10 Preview

Or

2 - I re-installed DirectX 9, but NOT from the usual Microsoft Web installer, which refused to override the existing DirectX 12. SOH user Flaviossa pointed me to this version:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109. That version did install. And FSX worked, without selecting the DirectX 10 preview.

I am sticking with DirectX 10, with the improvements achieved with Steve's DX10 Scenery Fixer.

I hope my experience will encourage others to make the upgrade to Windows 10.
 
Ok I'm back from the doctor and at my neighborhood bar having a cold one.
Installed FS9 earlier and for it to run two things are required, you must install the v9.1 update and you must replace the FS9.exe with the no CD FS9 replacement of FS9.exe. The old CD security system is the problem and the replacement no CD file can be found with a little bit of searching. If you can't find it PM me. After you get the ULA screen and it starts the screen will go black. Simply hit the alt+enter keys and bingo your up and flying.
On the question of previously installed programs on my system after installing Win 10, which I will now start calling Win X for ascetic purposes, everything has worked without problems. The only problem I have encountered so far is related to 3ds Max and I cannot attribute it to Win X since it is a minor graphics glitch that occurs once in a while.
Sipping some beer.............ahhh good.
Before installing Win X delete any and all login passwords,this caused a problem in the early builds of Win X insider preview. Win X will not know what to do with them and will lock you out. Don't forget to do this! The new system now uses pins like your debit cards but if you forget a Windows Live account will bail you out.
For those who want to wait before installing Win X it comes as an ISO download that you burn to DVD. Get it and wait until you feel comfortable about installing it. I agree with Johan on making a clean install which is what I will do on my main system when the time is right.
Ok back to the beer....... And if anybody cares I will need some surgery. My doctor called me a dick head and when I objected he said, no no you have a second penis growing out of your forehead and it needs to be removed.
 
I have been a Windows 10 Insider for some time now, having upgraded from 8.1. I continued to use FSX (with DirectX 9) as usual, until...


2 - I re-installed DirectX 9, but NOT from the usual Microsoft Web installer, which refused to override the existing DirectX 12. SOH user Flaviossa pointed me to this version:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109. That version did install. And FSX worked, without selecting the DirectX 10 preview.

Ah....there IS hope, then...;)
Most recent insider I have is 10130, I think... but will experiment with the FSX Demo....

When I built this machine in December I had to re-install FSX completely...all 260gig of it... so am not looking forward to doing it again for 10. THAT can wait a year.

This system is designed for 10 ...afterall some of the hardware is too new for 7 to even recognize without a bit of nudging first.,,,ie. WEI fails....;)
 
This is my opinion. When winx comes out, fsx will work just fine. Remember, you heard it from me first. :applause:

Don't be stealing my thunder boy, they heard from me and Johan first in a previous post on the subject as well as this one. And I'm the one who coined the term Win X so don't you forget it. And it pisses me off and I don't care if this locks the thread up.
 
Don't be stealing my thunder boy, they heard from me and Johan first in a previous post on the subject as well as this one. And I'm the one who coined the term Win X so don't you forget it. And it pisses me off and I don't care if this locks the thread up.

You should be more respectful of your elders. What's the matter with kids these days?
 
Now you whipper snappers look here. If you are talking about age and elders, I resemble that remark. I have not reserved Win X just yet as I am watching what happens with the guys that are using the trial version. Really interested in how FSX and P3D 2.5 works in Windows 10. Any input is greatly appreciated. Now where did I put the Meta Mucil.
 
So far FSX works well, I've been testing it for a while in DX10 preview and while I have nothing to compare it to it does seem to run smoother on the low end system I have win x running on.
FS9 I just installed yesterday and after overcoming the security system it also is working fine. I won't be testing P3D until I convert my main system but that will be a little bit in the future because I want to do a clean install and I have projects I want to finish first.
 
So far FSX works well, I've been testing it for a while in DX10 preview and while I have nothing to compare it to it does seem to run smoother on the low end system I have win x running on.
FS9 I just installed yesterday and after overcoming the security system it also is working fine. I won't be testing P3D until I convert my main system but that will be a little bit in the future because I want to do a clean install and I have projects I want to finish first.
Interesting. If you can run FS9, then can you run FSX without DX10 preview? I'm not clear as to how or why DX10 is necessary to run under a Win 10 install.
 
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