I think you should check on "Paymate" to see how many other countries are out of their list for its your money not theirs and you, I guess, are in business to sell to anyone right?, I'll simply pass this time......I know of many more online pay interfaces that are much better than that one , I can send you a list if you desire.
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WIP: IRIS C-27J Spartan
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I think you should check on "Paymate" to see how many other countries are out of their list for its your money not theirs and you, I guess, are in business to sell to anyone right?, I'll simply pass this time......I know of many more online pay interfaces that are much better than that one , I can send you a list if you desire.
Ferry_vO
Retired SOH Administrator
Apparently you missed the slight sarcastic undertone in Bill's post about your writing style; no problem, those things happen on forums. But next time you have an issue use e.mail, PM's or whatever. Public forums are not the place for that.
The problem with this guy is that he always comes out with a "slight sarcastic undertone" when he answers some of my posts.....why do that?...maybe some complex I guess....Right My friend, I will simply forget this person from beyond and continue with my postings which talk about Flights, Scenery, Missions and Adventures.
Just an FYI: This forum has an option for each member to put people on an ignore list: A few mouse clicks and you will never see any post from that person again..
Now back to the Spartan bitte!
Din't know, will check that...Thank you.
I imported the FS9 Spartan many months ago and fly all over Italy with it. Nice STOL plane, since I can't buy it, I'll continue with this old job which flies very well in FSX....
For me the (FSX) C-27J is a long-awaited model, and I look forward to its release. I had a chance to fly on the real thing on a couple of occasions and it was an unforgettable experience, so I am anxious to try it on FSX.
I hope there will also be the Italian Air Force version, with the refueling probe (pic. 1)
I still enjoy the FS9 model, where I made my own flight dynamics (.cfg & .air files), based on real specs and data.
After extended flight testing I got very realistic performances.
I also added my own photoreal 2D panel, (many thanks to the freeware gauges makers), with only those modifications useful for PC piloting (see pics 3,4,5)
Given the complexity of the cockpit, I guess the designers will concentrate on the VC and possibly will not make the 2D.
In this case I will try to make again my own panel.
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I hope there will also be the Italian Air Force version, with the refueling probe (pic. 1)
I still enjoy the FS9 model, where I made my own flight dynamics (.cfg & .air files), based on real specs and data.
After extended flight testing I got very realistic performances.
I also added my own photoreal 2D panel, (many thanks to the freeware gauges makers), with only those modifications useful for PC piloting (see pics 3,4,5)
Given the complexity of the cockpit, I guess the designers will concentrate on the VC and possibly will not make the 2D.
In this case I will try to make again my own panel.
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Henry
Retired SOH Administrator
i believe you were the one writing in an unfriendly manner
believe me you do not want to get on my ignore list
H
centuryseries
SOH-CM-2023
i believe you were the one writing in an unfriendly manner
believe me you do not want to get on my ignore list
H
Could've sworn someone said that this sort of discussion should be by pm or email.
I don't care what undercurrents are flowing here I want to read about the darn good looking C-27 :mixedsmi:
Yep, sorry for being partially responsible for dragging it off topic. This is one thread that deserves to remain open. This Spartan is really shaping up nicely! The cockpit shots were interesting as well... from the look of them, it's a much cozier 'pit than, say, a C-130. The gauge and controls layout reminded me of a Citation X. I'm waiting with bated breath to see what comes of the VC on this little beauty. :ernae:
i believe you were the one writing in an unfriendly manner
believe me you do not want to get on my ignore list
H
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Henry
Retired SOH Administrator
sadly when feathers get ruffled in an open forum
someone has to be seen doing something
i do not act behind the curtain
and sorry for the distracion
and bye bye gera
now back to topic
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HighGround22
Charter Member 2014
Nope. Just funny.
HighGround22
Charter Member 2014
I'm witchoo, CG! That would be a most welcome addition to the Teaser.
Sblzei, would it be possible to impose upon you by requesting your excellent 2D Spartan panel?
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HighGround22
Charter Member 2014
Yeah, back to topic! 
krazycolin
Banned
I actually got to sit in one of these last year. Very similar to the C-130 and in fact, the guy who was showing me around was telling me that they did that on purpose. They wanted pilots who have experience in the 130's to be able to transition as seamlessly as possible.
It's not that small inside but, still... smaller than the C-130...
Makes a LOT of noise too. the props aren't that far from the windows and it's LOUD.
kc
It's not that small inside but, still... smaller than the C-130...
Makes a LOT of noise too. the props aren't that far from the windows and it's LOUD.
kc
Yes, back to topic
HigGround 22 wrote:
As soon as I get the this new toy, I hope to be able to make use of the IRIS gauges to update it to FSX.
If they want the bmp (that I derived from an Hi-res picture) to do their own 2D development, I can send it to them for free (or maybe for a little discount on the model price ...:mixedsmi
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The design of the cockpit is similar to that of the C-130J as far as the instrumentation is concerned, but the general arrangement and dimensions derive from the C-27J predecessor, the G222.
Concerning the noise, yes it is noisy (race cars aren't? - this is not a posh executive airplane!) but much less than the G222, mostly thanks to the 6-blades sable propellers (commom to the C-130J)
Here is another shot of the real cockpit.
HigGround 22 wrote:
Unfortunately my FS9 2D uses many FS98 gauges (don't work in FSX).
As soon as I get the this new toy, I hope to be able to make use of the IRIS gauges to update it to FSX.
If they want the bmp (that I derived from an Hi-res picture) to do their own 2D development, I can send it to them for free (or maybe for a little discount on the model price ...:mixedsmi
.The design of the cockpit is similar to that of the C-130J as far as the instrumentation is concerned, but the general arrangement and dimensions derive from the C-27J predecessor, the G222.
Concerning the noise, yes it is noisy (race cars aren't? - this is not a posh executive airplane!) but much less than the G222, mostly thanks to the 6-blades sable propellers (commom to the C-130J)
Here is another shot of the real cockpit.
warchild
Charter Member
Well, a bit of an update for you all..
I just uploaded version 0.25A of the FDE for the testers tonight.. Compared to the teaser, it's a completely new plane.. Of course, anyone thats familiar with how i progress through a project knows that the third release of anything i'm working on is totally different than the first release.. At this moment, if you hit 300 knots, it will do a loop. The CG and CL are weird so i havent gotten thoser balanced out quite to the point you can do a knife edge with it.. Liftoff is at 118 knots and landing is about 380 meters with reversers and brakes at a landing speed of 95 knots. Is this like the real plane?? well, the loop is, so is the knife edge ( though generally that maneuver takes both pilots working their tails off ), but the rest of the data is simply taken straight from FAA and MOD documents. I can HOPE it's accurate, but i cant gaurantee it, and i wont try. I will say this though. When i bui;d a flight model, i have no ego involved. Stand or fall, everything i do has to be on it's own and gets compared ruthlessly with what i consider to be my favorites. In the twin engine mid range class of aircraft, milton Shupes howard 500 has always been my absolute hands down favorite. it's one incredible plane to fly, but in my opinion, this one has a real good chance of matching it..
I can only hope you all enjy this plane as much as i do, and i hope you will find it's performance to be at least somewhere within the realistic ball park..
Thanks all.
Pam
I just uploaded version 0.25A of the FDE for the testers tonight.. Compared to the teaser, it's a completely new plane.. Of course, anyone thats familiar with how i progress through a project knows that the third release of anything i'm working on is totally different than the first release.. At this moment, if you hit 300 knots, it will do a loop. The CG and CL are weird so i havent gotten thoser balanced out quite to the point you can do a knife edge with it.. Liftoff is at 118 knots and landing is about 380 meters with reversers and brakes at a landing speed of 95 knots. Is this like the real plane?? well, the loop is, so is the knife edge ( though generally that maneuver takes both pilots working their tails off ), but the rest of the data is simply taken straight from FAA and MOD documents. I can HOPE it's accurate, but i cant gaurantee it, and i wont try. I will say this though. When i bui;d a flight model, i have no ego involved. Stand or fall, everything i do has to be on it's own and gets compared ruthlessly with what i consider to be my favorites. In the twin engine mid range class of aircraft, milton Shupes howard 500 has always been my absolute hands down favorite. it's one incredible plane to fly, but in my opinion, this one has a real good chance of matching it..
I can only hope you all enjy this plane as much as i do, and i hope you will find it's performance to be at least somewhere within the realistic ball park..
Thanks all.
Pam
Warchild,
to me it looks like you are having pretty realistic performances.
According to specs, tactical T.O. gnd roll is 580m and landing gnd roll 340m. Minimum control speed in air is 105K (a little higher than yours).
The major problem that I encountered in developing my C-27J flight dynamics (for FS9) was to make the aircraft slow down when the throttle is cut back. It had an extraordinary tendency to keep the speed even with throttles in idle (!). If I remember correctly I fixed it by playing with inlet area and, of course, max drag. I did not want to make use of spoilers in flight, since in the real C-27J they are applied only for performance landing.
Good luck :ernae:
Ezio
to me it looks like you are having pretty realistic performances.
According to specs, tactical T.O. gnd roll is 580m and landing gnd roll 340m. Minimum control speed in air is 105K (a little higher than yours).
The major problem that I encountered in developing my C-27J flight dynamics (for FS9) was to make the aircraft slow down when the throttle is cut back. It had an extraordinary tendency to keep the speed even with throttles in idle (!). If I remember correctly I fixed it by playing with inlet area and, of course, max drag. I did not want to make use of spoilers in flight, since in the real C-27J they are applied only for performance landing.
Good luck :ernae:
Ezio