Xtreme Prototypes Gates LearJet Anniversary Edition Update Released

It's been quite sometime since I made any flightsim purchases.

There is a special place in my heart for the Learjet 24.

Here is The Chairman of the Board's Lear 24:

http://images.airliners.net/photo/494423/

This was (is) a truly historical aircraft:

http://www.sunlakesaeroclub.org/updates_web_data/081231/Sinatra.htm

Here is the Learjet that my late father and I took our last ride together on in 2004. He and I used to talk about Lears often back in the 60's. It was his favorite aircraft. I believe this one was ex USAF. It could be converted to carry a stretcher - N707SC:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lear-Jet-24/1125536/L/&sid=2815632e5d621d95f4c024a449f8fd3d

Looks like it's fallen on some hard times since then. I have a handful of photos of our flight from
KSRQ to KTVC. I'll try to figure out how to post them on Flickr or Photobucket or Airliners.net.

The view through the cockpit windshield at 38,000 ft and Mach .70+ is spectacular.

Being a medical flight we were given priority to land. It was a breathtaking descent.

I'll tell my wife that I would like this as a Christmas present.

A wonderfully modeled aircraft. Thank you.
 
I have been considering putting a Medivac / cargo version together as a separate package, have you any interior pics of the cabin arrangement?
 
Hello Chuck:

I'm afraid I do not have any photos of the cabin. Just a handful taken from immediately behind the flightdeck facing forward, encompassing the instrument panel, windshield, and back of the pilot and co-pilots head, and one or two from the outside when we stopped at a rural airport in Indiana to refuel.

I do recall the pilot telling me it was ex USAF. The stretcher went on the pilot's side, with the patient facing rearwards. The patient's head was just inside the door, roughly half way up the door. Behind the flightdeck seats were cabinets, I assume for medical supplies. They appeared to be veneered in a black granite look plastic with white or gray marbling and natural wood finish drawers. The height was just below the seats of the flightdeck. I think the rear bench seat was still there. Other than that the interior was quite plain and spartan, the granite looking veneer breaking up an otherwise solid colored black and off-white or cream colored cabin.

I will try to get those pictures uploaded, although they may not be much help for what you need. I'll post back here as soon as I can, but it may be tomorrow.
 
Start repainting this very nice bird - here the first pics. XtremePrototypes did a great job on her - imho, the best Learjet for FS - very well done XP-Team !

Greetings :wavey: Dirk
 
just did my first Real flight in the Learjet from Columbia CA to Aspin CO 1 hour 17 MIN landed with 35 Fuel

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My 24 bucks worth. Has anyone been able to trim this plane for level flight yet? I have been fighting with it since last night and so far its the worst behaving aircraft Ive flown in a loooong time.
The trim goes from no effect at all to plus/minus extreme climbs and decents. This thing is rotten. The slightest of power changes and it either points its nose at the ground or towards the heavens. Why is it ever time I click on the alt hold its aways seem to be preset at maximum fpm down? This plane seems hell bent on destroying itself.
My first take off roll should have warned me as I ran off the runway :redf: And I am a guy who has mastered the tail draggers and warbirds. Hell the A2A ww2 birds seem easy compared to ice skating this heap down the runway.
I also took a peak over my shoulder and thougth I had came face to face with the Exorxcist. Worst looking "woman???" thing I have ever seen.
I have been waiting for a long time for a early Lear and hope to fool around with the flight model and make this plane imo flyable. Some thing is just not right as it feels cheap. Btw I was concerned about the bad press on the vr pit but imo its fine.
Plane has alot of potential. Its just the fm is a mess. Anyone with any tweeks or replacement ones feel free to post or contact me.
 
The
Canadian Repaint
in the pics has been produced to work with any of the 24 - 25 - 28 Series by replacing generic paint 2 , it represents an early still operating Lear in international service.
Unzip to a temporary folder and copy the contents to folder texture.2 in your selected Lear 24 - 25 or 28 Series Aircraft .
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A number of Lear rated pilots have said of this model that it represents well the unforgiving nature of the early Lear Gates 20 Series , one gets used to setting the knob for altitude fast enough , it’s not having a GPS / Nav switch in these early planes that annoys me. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
 
I flew 402s,404s,Mu-2s,690 Commanders for a Bank check company in the late 80s. We had 2 lears used for a military contract that required them as the paper work needed to be in Atlanta by a x time and they were the only thing fast enough. I jumped on many a flight to be relocated and while hard to stay ahead of and always craving altitude, not what I would consider clunky. Always bumping into vne is accurate and more altitude was constantly being requested.
I enjoy the challenge of a aircraft with bad habits or that needed to be pampered. The Mitz would kill you if you did not stay on it all the time. Dam thing was wide as it was long and you would easily bust your as# if you got cocky. The F-104 is what I would consider unforgiving.
Having the Lear want to climb or dive with a set power setting that cannot be trimmed out is frustrating. Tonight I plan to run a few long xcountry flights and really wring it out.
BTW- If you are doing paints a cargo version or a bag for the chick with the green hair, or is it purple would be good.
 
Why is it ever time I click on the alt hold its aways seem to be preset at maximum fpm down? This plane seems hell bent on destroying itself.

That autopilot face looks just like an old H-14 and they weren't very good, but the weird thing is they chose to put a vertical speed preselect knob on the VSI. You've just got to dial it in first. I don't remember any of those old autopilots at could do much more than hold pitch or altitude.

I really don't have any issues with the flight model. Speeds, fuel burns, climb, altitude capability are all pretty close it seems to me. They weren't the greatest flying airplanes--they were just about the first business planes that were fast. Take it up to FL410 and everything looks just about right.

cheers,
steve

BTW, one more vote for a cargo interior, Chuck, but you knew that anyway. :D
 
I dunno something is not right. The vsi is very slow and again, somethings not right. I tried to hand fly the thing just trying to maintain altitude and bank. I was all over the place like 1st day cadet. The real Lear handles like a dart and is some what pitchy depending on the cg. But its not sloshy. I think clunky best descibes it. But still things happen for a reason and I see no reason for not being able to trim a plane out when the power and pitch are contant.
And for God sake get that woman a bra. Looks like 2 eggs with the yokes busted.

Also.. Nobody take my post as slamming the jet. I appreciate someone doing the older Lears. I hate that all the new jets are all crt screens. Give me round gauges any day. Now if a good Mu-2 will ever be released. I will even take a bad Mu-2. Now if you want to talk about a sloppy plane that will scare the crap out of you at least once every time you fly it thats the one. The fear jet has nothing on the Moo 2.
 
Man , that broke me up ,.." Looks like 2 eggs with the yokes busted ", that passenger has left no one indifferent..<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
I don’t know if i failed miserably or succeeded beyond my wildest expectations , perhaps it is merely ill considered to have entered into the Sexy Passenger contest that exists between modellers .<o:p></o:p>
I even received a series of emails from a Arab Gentleman absolutely scandalized i had a “ Pute “ in the cabin and went so far as to threaten he would terrorise me if i don’t do something about it , the entire conversation was in French and very tongue in cheek but i have never seen a set of pixels generate as much attention.<o:p></o:p>
 
Has anyone else had problems with HDG HOLD? For some reason the a/c keeps zig-zagging past the HDG Bug, and never seems to settle down to a fixed heading...

Since all the "code" is embedded into the compiled .mdl file, I've opened it up in MS Visual Studio's hex editor and verified that it's simply using the default XML key_events, so the only thing left is that the FDE isn't quite right.
 
Its all 3D gauges aside the GPS screen but Xtreme doesn't have any reports of this in my support records , i will be having the FDE looked at in a test flight with its creator over a Pizza this week and go through the comments here and at Avsim, perhaps discuss an Air Ambulance / Freight version at the same time.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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So Bill ,in your estimation how would one compare Polly to Dianne ?<o:p></o:p>
 
Post Script , did a multiplayer flight from KHND in Vegas to KTOA Torrance, California a 5000 foot field and all systems behaved normally , apart the lights at the airport floating , shimmering lines on the taxiways and other FSX foibles to greet my arrival.

Must admit to having drilled this plane into the ground the first two times i tried some while ago , but tonight i nailed this landing, kind of fun when it all comes together once in a while<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
 
outstandting lear jet

This is very detailed lear jet very happy with it.I hope there will be more repaints for it.With american Reg.Well done.Chet Two Wolves.:applause:
 
So Bill ,in your estimation how would one compare Polly to Dianne ?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>

Oh, I'm so not going to step into that minefield! Since Diane is a "real person" and married to Bobby Hayes... :ernae:
It's easy for me to spot the huge improvements you've made to the bird, especially in the vc graphics.
 
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