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Thought about getting a VR headset, but.....

Mixed Reality is Microsoft's name for vr. From what I read, the plan is to incorporate the real world into vr but at this point, there is no difference other than the name and sysrem requirements. The cameras on my Samsung Odyssey are used for tracking the wands which I don't even use while in the sim. I hooked up Leap Motion for that interaction. I am very happy with my Odyssey right now as the gauges are much easier to read vs. the Vive I returned. The setup for the Odyssey seemed a little more difficult but I went out and bought myself a new pc when I found out my cpu would not work.

LouP
 
LouP said:
Mixed Reality is Microsoft's name for vr. From what I read, the plan is to incorporate the real world into vr but at this point, there is no difference other than the name and sysrem requirements. The cameras on my Samsung Odyssey are used for tracking the wands which I don't even use while in the sim. I hooked up Leap Motion for that interaction. I am very happy with my Odyssey right now as the gauges are much easier to read vs. the Vive I returned. The setup for the Odyssey seemed a little more difficult but I went out and bought myself a new pc when I found out my cpu would not work.

LouP
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Thanks for that, so they are virtually:smug: the same!


Regards.
Ian
 
Microsoft might be trying to associate the term with themselves for marketing purposes....but "Mixed Reality" (also "Augmented Reality") means exactly that.
It's an experience where you see and interact with both virtual objects ("Virtual Reality") and real objects ("Reality") within the same space (i.e. a room, building or world).
So, you could have a real space (a cockpit or room) where you can see and interact with virtual people or objects...or you could have a virtual space where you interact with real people and objects....and any other combination between the two.
The best way I can think of to explain it is to think of it like the movie "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", where you had real actors along with cartoon characters.

The CastAR system could have allowed people to create something akin to a Star Trek style "Holodeck". All that was needed was their glasses, some of their passive position sensors and a room with the walls, ceiling and floor painted with photo-reflective paint.
It was some truly amazing tech.....and they were planning to have it retail for less than $400. Hopefully some other company will license it and bring it to market one day.



LouP said:
Mixed Reality is Microsoft's name for vr. From what I read, the plan is to incorporate the real world into vr but at this point, there is no difference other than the name and sysrem requirements. The cameras on my Samsung Odyssey are used for tracking the wands which I don't even use while in the sim. I hooked up Leap Motion for that interaction. I am very happy with my Odyssey right now as the gauges are much easier to read vs. the Vive I returned. The setup for the Odyssey seemed a little more difficult but I went out and bought myself a new pc when I found out my cpu would not work.

LouP
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So if I'm about to pull the trigger on a desktop gaming machine runnig a GTX 1070, do I really need to worry about any fancy curved screens or 4K monitors if I plan on using VR? This machine will be 99% sim usage (P3D,DCS) and some productivity, I use my PS4 console for "shooters".
 
Victory103 said:
So if I'm about to pull the trigger on a desktop gaming machine runnig a GTX 1070, do I really need to worry about any fancy curved screens or 4K monitors if I plan on using VR? This machine will be 99% sim usage (P3D,DCS) and some productivity, I use my PS4 console for "shooters".
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I can no longer see my triple 27" curved Samsung displays (feels like a waste) when in vr which is most of the time now. I also can not see my 7 Saitek panels though I feel for the multipanel to use the gear lever, trim, and flaps. The three radio panels pretty much sit there looking pretty. I do use them when I fly "pancake" as someone in another forum said but that's not too often now. A good set of controls are still in order, even with Leap Motion but if that gets refined some more even the controls won't be needed but I think that's a ways off yet.

Hope that helps. Happy to share my experience transitioning to vr.

LouP
 
I tried the flyinside demo. It does have its good points but I found it rather clunky in use. I prefer the native implementation myself.
 
DaveWG said:
I tried the flyinside demo. It does have its good points but I found it rather clunky in use. I prefer the native implementation myself.
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The problem with the native VR is that you cant use popup windows like GPS or even the ATC where as you can with FlyInside.
I also get much smoother framerates with FlyInside.
 
Yes, the interface is different but like everything else, you get accustomed to it. Plus you can import any program you want into the sim. I usually import little nav map and place it on the seat next to me or in my lap, just like a map. :) Very cool!

LouP
 
Victory103 said:
So if I'm about to pull the trigger on a desktop gaming machine runnig a GTX 1070, do I really need to worry about any fancy curved screens or 4K monitors if I plan on using VR? This machine will be 99% sim usage (P3D,DCS) and some productivity, I use my PS4 console for "shooters".
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i have a 55" 4k with tir but ever since OR cv1, big one is not really a requirement. when flying tubeliners i'll take the rift off during cruise phase when it's boring and for programming the fmc, but otherwise rift is the main display flying low.

you ride a 1098? i love my red 848. it's a medieval torture rack in texas summers but it's an awesome machine.
 
Gesh kdfw, I think my regular living room LED TV is a 55"! I'll probably get a good, but not that large, screen for those days I decide to play "airliner". Still have my TIR, but takes getting used after laying dormant.

No issues on my 1098 in TX as long as I kept moving (running full Termi's), now I'll see how toasty it gets here in PHX. Probably ride early in the AM or just head to the hills!
 
Well, it's finally going to happen.

Just ordered a new pc AND a Samsung Odyssey VR headset with two controllers. I have a feeling my simulation experience will be a new adventure for me, about one week from today. :encouragement: NC
 
Excellent choice ! The Odyssey is clearly the best VR headset currently available.
I had my first VR experience just monday night, with P3D v2.5, Flyinside, and a Lenovo headset. The resolution in that helmet is a little bit lower than the Odyssey, and screen is LCD instead of OLED.
Nevertheless, the experience was simply mind-blowing.
I got set up first for a flight out of Princess Juliana with Piglet's PC6, and just leaning on the left to look at the left wheel was something I cannot describe.
Then I went for an helicopter flight around the Innsbruck photoreal scenery by OrbX, and flying low and slow along the valleys up to the nearby glacier was just incredible.
It was with the H&S EC-135. The sensation I got on takeoff was already fantastic, but the strongest feeling was when I made the first turn with 30° bank... I thought I would fall off my chair :biggrin-new:

After that short sessions (2 hours....), I had to come back to my own computer, to fly P3Dv4 on a normal screen... and boy that was sad...
Needless to say, I have ordered a new computer yesterday.
Once it's there, I'll start looking for a VR headset.
 
The only thing I will need to get, from what I understand from reading about it, is a new pair of prescription glasses with wire frames that should fit with the headset on. I will try the headset with my current U.S. military issue black plastic framed glasses, but have a feeling they may not be too comfortable with the headset. Will see. NC
 
Navy Chief said:
The only thing I will need to get, from what I understand from reading about it, is a new pair of prescription glasses with wire frames that should fit with the headset on. I will try the headset with my current U.S. military issue black plastic framed glasses, but have a feeling they may not be too comfortable with the headset. Will see. NC
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I'm not sure about that headset you are getting, but I know there are inserts you can get for the Rift and Vive. They should be available for the Odyssey as well.


Here is a youtube vid with some info. There are some links in the comments. For more info just google "lens inserts for samsung odyssey".




https://youtu.be/k_v8wP0716E



Cheers,
 
scotth6 said:
I'm not sure about that headset you are getting, but I know there are inserts you can get for the Rift and Vive. They should be available for the Odyssey as well.


Here is a youtube vid with some info. There are some links in the comments. For more info just google "lens inserts for samsung odyssey".




https://youtu.be/k_v8wP0716E



Cheers,
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I agree with scotth6 Chief, if you can find someone that does inserts for the Odyssey get them, I have VR Lens lab ones for my Rift and they where money well spent.
I couldn't use the Rift for more than half an hour with my glasses on before they started cutting the blood flow to my nose off :)
 
Dangerous Beans said:
I agree with scotth6 Chief, if you can find someone that does inserts for the Odyssey get them, I have VR Lens lab ones for my Rift and they where money well spent.
I couldn't use the Rift for more than half an hour with my glasses on before they started cutting the blood flow to my nose off :)
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I haven't found any company yet, but am still researching this. Good news is I will have 30 days to decide if I like the Odyssey. If during that time, I don't, I can return them, no problem.

I did call Samsung. They won't offer any advice concerning wearing of prescription glasses with their headset. All the support guy would say was it was their only model, and no plans for anything else. That's all. NC
 
Hey chief, I wear wire frame glasses with my Odysee all the time. Just be careful the first time trying the glasses in there as the lens in all the hmds are pretty soft and easily marked up. My regular glasses are a tight fit. Try it without your specs first as some folks who wear glasses don't need them in the vr headsets. Also be patient and give yourself time to get everything set up right. Lastly, I strongly suggest you get Flyinside, the version for the rift works just fine with the Samsung.

LouP
 
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