Free SSW Fiat G91: Installing went fine, but no textures...

[ColoKent]

Couple of things:

1. I am getting EXACTLY the same indications as you, Manschy (I have to believe I am doing something incorrectly on the install...can't wait to find out what I am screwing up)
That said...
2. Appreciate SSW providing this 1 April gift....the airplane looks wonderful
3. The modeling quality of SSW offerings (particularly in the VC realm) is improving dramatically with each release
4. I was heartened recently to see that SSW is listening to users who found their protection/key system to be unworkable...this issue...and a lack of sympathy from the developer a few years ago on the topic led me to abandon their products and the thought of future purchases. Their re-engagement on this issue and their solution will likely bring me back.
5. As an avowed "Starfighter nut", I am looking forward GREATLY to the upcoming F-104G and TF-104G models.

Kent

 

[Lawman]

So far unfortunately unusable. No pilot, no configuration possible, no switches working. Reinstalled, new installed...
No changes...

Is it possible that it does not work in P3Dv4.5?

I have only the FSX-version installed (which I had purchased some time ago), but I assume the P3D-version works the same regarding weapons selection: in the Fuel/weapons tab, scroll with your mouse wheel in the field "Config #X/X". Once you've chosen a load-out, click "Apply now" (which config you can select depends on the version of the aircraft). It's the only tab where you can actually change things, the other tabs are information only.
Also make sure you select the correct weapons program (TacPack or vACMI) in the "sswG91.ini"-file. I believe it defaults to vACMI.

The FSX-version needs a program called "XML Tools", though I don't know if this affects the weapons. I don't know if the P3D-version needs this program too; in the FSX-version there was a brief mention of this on one of the earlier pages when you run the installer.

 

[Manschy]

Kent, the TF-104 is eagerly awaited from me as well. Since the Captain Sim F-104 is history, I am waiting for a two seater (like the Harriers as well.....ALL HARRIERS ).
@Lawman: Thank you, but I did try everything as seen in the pics above. Furthermore, I can't move any pilot to take a seat inside the Gina ....

 

[Lawman]

Changes on the "Properties"-tab must be made in the "sswg91.ini"-file (to remain permanent). See the note at the bottom of the tab and the pdf-file "Gina hints" in the docs-folder of the aircraft.

The procedure I mentioned regarding the various configs should work (at least it does in the FSX-payware version); I've just checked it myself (with and without TacPack activated or vACMI installed). Unfortunately, I can't help you any further if it doesn't on your machine. Maybe SSW unknowingly disabled something in the freeware version, though I find that rather unlikely. You should try the SSW-forums.

 

[Manschy]

I have to say, I appreciate the good intentions of SSW. This Gina is a great addon.

But if it is not usable, it makes not sense to offer it, neither as a gift. So the 1. April was a jokey day to do it....

 

[r678idtyj]

It does work but apparently only the latest version of the keyless installer (1.2.0) will remove the demo mode.

If the first install doesn't work, remove it and reinstall G91>textures>keyless installer.

It worked for me.

 

[gastonj]

Really a goof gift... a demo version ...ah..ah !

Thank's SimMarket!

JMC

 

[gastonj]

It does work but apparently only the latest version of the keyless installer will remove the demo mode (1.0.2.1 I think).

If the first install doesn't work, remove it and reinstall G91>textures>keyless installer.

It worked for me.

The keyless installer I have is the v1.0.2...SimMarket does not provide in my account the version you said. I am sunk with the demo version who will soon go to the trash and who will disgust me forever to buy a SimSkunWorks addon!

JMC

 

[r678idtyj]

Well, here are the versions that work for me:

All I know is it's important to remove the previous install before redoing the whole process.

Also, whatever antivirus/antimalware you run has to be temporarily deactivated to avoid strange things.

 

[gastonj]

Well, here are the versions that work for me:

All I know is it's important to remove the previous install before redoing the whole process.

Also, whatever antivirus/antimalware you run has to be temporarily deactivated to avoid strange things.

What do you think I did? I followed precisely this method and I stay with the demo version!
JMC

 

[cortomalteseit]

For those having problems, check that you have the newer version of Visual C++ libraries installed (admin rights during the install process).
Mine works perfectly. So, gents, please double check before judging/criticizing/shooting at the pianist!
Many thanks SSW for your very generous offers and gifts!

 

[Manschy]

Glad you got her to run - meanwhile, there are some few other guys in other forums who also were able to fly.
But it's a crux: At some systems it runs, at others it doesn't...

Everything done like you said, but unfortunately I seem to have a free activation issue: Under configurations the key symbol stays grey here, it says key=0. It did everything as follows:

1. Complete uninstalling yesterdays previous version

2. New installing by that order:

- SSW-FIAT-G91-P3Dx64.1.2.0.exe
- SSW-keyless-installer-unified-v1.2.0.2.exe

When offering the ++2017 distributables, I deny.

I will do some more trials in different order....Hope never dies....
Oh, just a question: How about to react when the installer asks: "Do you need a new registration key?" Accept or deny?

 

[katonic]

Just to add another data point to the thread I've also experienced the exact same issues that Manschy and others have experienced. Interestingly when I do a fresh install and do NOT run the keyless installer all systems seem to work correctly. This leaves the Gina in demo mode and the sim pauses after 10 minutes but it did at least give me a chance to verify the product works correctly. After I run the keyless installer the Gina systems no longer appear to initialize correctly. It loads with the canopy closed, controls locked, ladder missing, etc. The config panel is non functional and most switches in the cockpit do nothing. I've reinstalled, with and without the C++ libraries, with and without asking for a key and the outcome is the same each time. It all seems to be tied to the dll file in the aircraft module folder. If I go back to the original file the aircraft returns to demo mode and all is well for 10 minutes. With the one installed by the keyless installer ( v 1.0.2) all the above issues appear.

Interestingly, other SSW aircraft work correctly including the AV-8 which I also installed using the keyless installer method.

Just my 2 cents to share! When it works it is a lovely aircraft!

 

[Manschy]

Thanks, Katonic. It's really weird, just because some can get the GINA to run, others don't.
In the case it does not work, it seems that the "keyless" installer blocks the aircraft? That's odd....
May I ask, what's the deal with your note regarding the dll inside the aircraft folder?

 

[katonic]

Manfred,

In SimObjects/Airplanes/SSW-G91-RX-PAN/modules there is a file named SSW_G91.dll that appears to play a part in many of the aircraft systems. When you run the keyless installer program the .dll file is replaced by a new file. I'm assuming, perhaps incorrectly that this file is directly tied to licensing. I'm guessing that there is something different about our systems that causes the new dll to not work correctly but I haven't been able to identify what that might be.

Its a generous gift by the SSW folks and I hope many people are able to enjoy it. I doubt I'll get to the bottom of the issue but if I do I'll report it here!

 

[Manschy]

Thank you! So I will check this out!
Simple question: How about the dll of the users who got it to work? Would it be worth a try to upload their dll in the forum for others to check if this will run with their Gina?

 

[azflyboy]

Under the old key setup, SSW products were tied to one specific system, to the point where changing out PC hardware can require a new license key.

If that's still in place, the DLL will be essentially unique to each PC, so it might not work.

Also, there may be legal/copyright issues, but I haven't read the new license in detail to check.

 

[Manschy]

Should no legal problem as long as a dll that comes out of the free version will be published to everybody. If this will work, everything could be fine and massive users will be satisfied and thankful

 

[cortomalteseit]

Glad you got her to run - meanwhile, there are some few other guys in other forums who also were able to fly.
But it's a crux: At some systems it runs, at others it doesn't...

Everything done like you said, but unfortunately I seem to have a free activation issue: Under configurations the key symbol stays grey here, it says key=0. It did everything as follows:

1. Complete uninstalling yesterdays previous version

2. New installing by that order:

- SSW-FIAT-G91-P3Dx64.1.2.0.exe
- SSW-keyless-installer-unified-v1.2.0.2.exe

When offering the ++2017 distributables, I deny.

I will do some more trials in different order....Hope never dies....
Oh, just a question: How about to react when the installer asks: "Do you need a new registration key?" Accept or deny?

Why do you deny the C++ Redisitributable? That's the problem! If you allow it it should work correctly. If not, search for the last MS Visual C++ Redistributable version and you will enjoy the Gina flying capabilities...

 

[Manschy]

It did also not run with accepting and installing the ++2017. That was my first choice to install these redistributable. No chance...
So other posts told to deny this and the Gina work fine that way. In the meantime, around 10 different suggestions wanted to help to get the Gina to fly.
I am interested in if the DLL from the users whose Gina is working fine also can solve the issue for the others. Where is the mistake to some of us when installing the "keyless" mode....