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Mitsubishi Ki-1-II Japanese medium bomber for CFS2

S

Shessi

SOH-CM-2025
Hi Folks,
Just uploaded the CFS2 version of the Mitsubishi Ki-1-II medium Japanese bomber. Ugly..yes, underpowered...yes, but significant as the first mass produced bomber by Japan in the mid to late '30's. Used in the Sino-Japanese and Manchukuo conflicts, and as a trainer in the early war years.

Please read README for details etc.....;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=53&id=29193

Cheers

Shessi
 

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Mitsubishi Ki-1-II CFS2

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A new entry has been added to Add-Ons Library, category CFS 2 Aircraft - Japanese

Description: A mid-1930s Japanese twin-engined medium bomber used in the Sino-Japanese wars and early WWII in the Manchukuo campaign and training.

Shessi

To check it out, rate it or add comments, visit Mitsubishi Ki-1-II CFS2
The comments you make there will appear in the posts below.
 
ha ha...I know, I know John. I've got to admit this one dragged somewhat, but I'm a sucker for the odd and little known, AND ac that we don't have (well not one in a really useable format) in the sims.

Anyway, it's done hurrah! Onwards and upwards to the next one, or many............;)

Cheers

Shessi
 
Always the Best

Shessi said:
Thanks S, glad you like it...at least someone does! lol..;)

Cheers

Shessi
Click to expand...

Your work is always the Best of the Best. I wish you would look at the German Ar-80 the aircraft used to rebuild the Luftwaffe, or the KI-5 the aircraft the Japanese were looking at for a while. No matter what you are the master builder. Thanks. :encouragement::encouragement::encouragement::encouragement:
 
Marty said:
Your work is always the Best of the Best. I wish you would look at the German Ar-80 the aircraft used to rebuild the Luftwaffe, or the KI-5 the aircraft the Japanese were looking at for a while. No matter what you are the master builder. Thanks. :encouragement::encouragement::encouragement::encouragement:
Click to expand...


No sooner you finish one..... out they come with another request!!!

Let Shessi catch his breath.... LoL


Cheers m
 
The model is almost perfect...

...but the DP has one big problem. The Ki-1 was armed with only three 7.7 mm machine guns and has no 20 mm cannon.

Cheers

Pepe
 
Hi Shessi,

Thanks very much for this lovely model of an ungainly looking aeroplane.

Cheers,
Kevin :ernaehrung004:
 
Pepe, why don't you STFU and check before you whine on about a petty nothing...

The DP is based on your DP which you uploaded here with the Ki-1 on the 5th March...why is there a 'big problem' now, when you did exactly the same thing?

Over the years you have consistantly bleated on about the 'fantastic' and 'great' projects that you're doing, and yet there are always issues with them. For example the converted Welker's Ar234C model still has remnants of the model underneath the ac (in your upload pic). The AC.cfg of the Ki-1 you uploaded is faulted, as you have the incorrect UC height, which means it drops to the ground when you go to fly the ac. Most of your projects have faults and issues, but I don't say anything, and certainly not in a public forum.

I have never said nor believe that my projects are perfect. I want to know or be told of things which are a problem or are incorrect. If I saw issues, I would show respect to a fellow SOH-er, and tell them privately, I expect the same back.

How stupid and petty do you look now, bothering to mention and imply that it's a 'big problem', over such a small issue as to what type of weapon is used...and one which you did yourself....dohhh!

You're a 69 year old man, act like one.

Shessi
 
Peace!

The first time I flew a combat online on a CFS1 site I used a D.550 made all official Dewoitine's measures and near to reality performance. The guy used a superior aircraft to shot me after a 15 minutes combat. Chatting after the combat, he asked me what I'm flying. I told him and, after that, he told me he told he used a Spitfire 9 with a 4,000 HP engine with six 40 mm cannons to shoot down a D.550 with six 7.5 mm machine guns and motorized by a 1.050 hp Hispano Suiza 12Y45. Obviously, I felt cheated. Since them I tried to get faithful planes. Sometime I succeed, sometimes not. I really respect the efforts of the 1% Group and I'm always looking for ways to enhance my aircraft reality levels. I know my limits. I can do only useful airfiles and DP's, some good, some bad. I never said I have great skills at models and on painting skins. I use only softwares like DOS Mdlc 2.0 to get my models. That's why I'm always asking for help.

Last but not least: I really love your models. I think you're a master, but, for you, airfiles and DP's are secondary. For you, the most important thing is the visual detail. For me, its the flying model. We have different visions and I respect it. Peace!

By the way: the plane I uploaded HAS 7.7 mm instead of a 20 mm cannon. I attached the DP.

Até logo e desculpas por qualquer coisa,

Pepe

PS: You said: "For example the converted Welker's Ar234C model still has remnants of the model underneath the ac (in your upload pic)." I'll will love you could convert it in a proper way. Until now, we have no decent Arado 234 B or C.
 
I forget the attachment

Here is the original DP...



[BOXES]
box.0=%box_name.0%,-0.541,-0.11,3.7,0.541,1.113,5.13
box.1=%box_name.1%,-0.492,0.31,2.33,0.492,2.04,3.11
box.2=%box_name.2%,-0.492,0.34,0.4,0.492,2.06,1.23
box.3=%box_name.3%,-0.492,0.01,3.97,0.492,1.74,4.7
box.4=%box_name.4%,-0.492,0.29,-3.77,0.492,1.98,-2.94
box.5=%box_name.5%,-12.59,-0.15,-2.46,-0.53,0.31,2.5
box.6=%box_name.6%,-13.3,-0.15,-2.46,-12.57,0.31,2.5
box.7=%box_name.7%,0.53,-0.15,-2.46,12.59,0.31,2.5
box.8=%box_name.8%,12.57,-0.15,-2.46,13.3,0.31,2.5
box.9=%box_name.9%,-0.53,-0.17,-4.27,0.53,1.6,3.68
box.10=%box_name.10%,-0.53,-0.09,-8.96,0.53,1.25,-4.23
box.11=%box_name.11%,-3.477,-0.478,-10.1,-3.272,3.05,-7.7
box.12=%box_name.12%,3.272,-0.478,-10.1,3.477,3.05,-7.7
box.13=%box_name.13%,-3.33,1.3,-9.8,3.33,1.5,-7.75
box.14=%box_name.14%,-0.43,-1.1,-2.7,0.43,-0.18,-1.8
box.15=%box_name.15%,-3.64,-1.6,0,-2.28,0.17,3.67
box.16=%box_name.16%,2.28,-1.6,0,3.64,0.17,3.67
box.17=%box_name.17%,-3.41,-3.16,0,-2.55,-1.62,2.05
box.18=%box_name.18%,2.55,-3.16,0,3.41,-1.62,2.05


[SYSTEMS]
system.0=%system_name.0%,300,0
system.1=%system_name.1%,125,1
system.2=%system_name.2%,125,1
system.3=%system_name.3%,125,2
system.4=%system_name.4%,125,2
system.5=%system_name.5%,275,3
system.6=%system_name.6%,275,4
system.7=%system_name.7%,125,7
system.8=%system_name.8%,200,-1
system.9=%system_name.9%,50,10
system.10=%system_name.10%,50,10
system.11=%system_name.11%,200,51
system.12=%system_name.12%,200,52
system.13=%system_name.13%,200,56
system.14=%system_name.14%,200,18
system.15=%system_name.15%,375,19
system.16=%system_name.16%,50,20
system.17=%system_name.17%,200,22
system.18=%system_name.18%,50,23
system.19=%system_name.19%,275,26
system.20=%system_name.20%,50,27
system.21=%system_name.21%,200,34
system.22=%system_name.22%,125,28
system.23=%system_name.23%,125,30
system.24=%system_name.24%,275,33
system.25=%system_name.25%,50,34
system.26=%system_name.26%,200,35
system.27=%system_name.27%,125,35
system.28=%system_name.28%,150,-5
system.29=%system_name.29%,300,37
system.30=%system_name.30%,200,38
system.31=%system_name.31%,175,41
system.32=%system_name.32%,150,39
system.33=%system_name.33%,150,-4


[BOXMAPS.0]
; Box = Nose Turret
boxmap.0=40,0
boxmap.1=5,-2
boxmap.2=5,-3


[BOXMAPS.1]
; Box = Pilot
boxmap.0=10,-1
boxmap.1=5,9
boxmap.2=25,10
boxmap.3=45,18
boxmap.4=5,19
boxmap.5=5,20
boxmap.6=5,22


[BOXMAPS.2]
; Box = Co-Pilot
boxmap.0=10,-1
boxmap.1=5,9
boxmap.2=25,10
boxmap.3=45,18
boxmap.4=5,19
boxmap.5=5,20
boxmap.6=5,22


[BOXMAPS.3]
; Box = Front Gunner
boxmap.0=10,-1
boxmap.1=5,9
boxmap.2=25,10
boxmap.3=45,18
boxmap.4=5,19
boxmap.5=5,20
boxmap.6=5,22


[BOXMAPS.4]
; Box = Rear Gunner
boxmap.0=10,-1
boxmap.1=5,9
boxmap.2=25,10
boxmap.3=45,18
boxmap.4=5,19
boxmap.5=5,20
boxmap.6=5,22


[BOXMAPS.5]
; Box = Port Wing
boxmap.0=50,23
boxmap.1=10,25
boxmap.2=5,26
boxmap.3=10,27
boxmap.4=10,28
boxmap.5=10,29
boxmap.6=5,-4


[BOXMAPS.6]
; Box = Port Wingtip
boxmap.0=50,23
boxmap.1=10,25
boxmap.2=5,26
boxmap.3=10,27
boxmap.4=10,28
boxmap.5=10,29
boxmap.6=5,-4


[BOXMAPS.7]
; Box = Starboard Wing
boxmap.0=50,30
boxmap.1=10,32
boxmap.2=5,33
boxmap.3=10,34
boxmap.4=10,35
boxmap.5=10,36
boxmap.6=5,-5


[BOXMAPS.8]
; Box = Starboard Wingtip
boxmap.0=50,23
boxmap.1=10,25
boxmap.2=5,26
boxmap.3=10,27
boxmap.4=10,28
boxmap.5=10,29
boxmap.6=5,-4


[BOXMAPS.9]
; Box = Central fuselage
boxmap.0=5,9
boxmap.1=10,10
boxmap.2=5,19
boxmap.3=5,22
boxmap.4=75,37


[BOXMAPS.10]
; Box = Rear Fuselage
boxmap.0=5,9
boxmap.1=10,10
boxmap.2=5,19
boxmap.3=5,22
boxmap.4=75,37


[BOXMAPS.11]
; Box = Port Rudder
boxmap.0=5,19
boxmap.1=5,22
boxmap.2=45,38
boxmap.3=15,41
boxmap.4=15,39
boxmap.5=15,40


[BOXMAPS.12]
; Box = Starboard Rudder
boxmap.0=5,19
boxmap.1=5,22
boxmap.2=45,38
boxmap.3=15,41
boxmap.4=15,39
boxmap.5=15,40


[BOXMAPS.13]
; Box = Horizontal Stabilizer
boxmap.0=5,22
boxmap.1=25,38
boxmap.2=10,41
boxmap.3=30,39
boxmap.4=30,40


[BOXMAPS.14]
; Box = Belly Gun
boxmap.0=50,-2
boxmap.1=50,18


[BOXMAPS.15]
; Box = Port Engine
boxmap.0=10,1
boxmap.1=10,2
boxmap.2=80,3


[BOXMAPS.16]
; Box = Starboard Engine
boxmap.0=10,1
boxmap.1=10,2
boxmap.2=80,4


[BOXMAPS.17]
; Box = Port Gear
boxmap.0=100,27


[BOXMAPS.18]
; Box = Starboard Gear


[EFFECTS.0]
; System = Nose Structure
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.1]
; System = Port Coolant Reservoir
effect.0=10,LEAK,1,1
effect.1=20,LEAK,1,2
effect.2=30,LEAK,1,3
effect.3=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.2]
; System = Starboard Coolant Reservoir
effect.0=10,LEAK,1,1
effect.1=20,LEAK,1,2
effect.2=30,LEAK,1,3
effect.3=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.3]
; System = Port Oil Reservoir
effect.0=10,LEAK,2,1
effect.1=20,LEAK,2,2
effect.2=30,LEAK,2,3
effect.3=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.4]
; System = Starboard Oil Reservoir
effect.0=10,LEAK,2,1
effect.1=20,LEAK,2,2
effect.2=30,LEAK,2,3
effect.3=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.5]
; System = Engine 1
effect.0=10,LEAK,2,1
effect.1=20,LEAK,2,2
effect.2=30,LEAK,2,3
effect.3=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.6]
; System = Engine 2
effect.0=10,LEAK,2,1
effect.1=20,LEAK,2,2
effect.2=30,LEAK,2,3
effect.3=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.7]
; System = Cockpit
effect.0=10,LEAK,3,1
effect.1=20,LEAK,3,2
effect.2=30,LEAK,3,3
effect.3=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.8]
; System = Radio
effect.0=10,DAMAGE,2,1
effect.1=20,DAMAGE,2,2
effect.2=30,DAMAGE,2,3
effect.3=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.9]
; System = Port Fuel Tank
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.10]
; System = Starboard Fuel Tank
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.11]
; System = Chin Gun
effect.0=10,LEAK,3,1
effect.1=20,LEAK,3,2
effect.2=30,LEAK,3,3
effect.3=100,BOMB,1,


[EFFECTS.12]
; System = Upper Gun
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.13]
; System = Lower Gun
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.14]
; System = Fuselage Structure
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.15]
; System = Rudder Cntrl Cable
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.16]
; System = Bomb Release
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.17]
; System = Elevator Cntrl Cable
effect.0=100,BOMB,1,


[EFFECTS.18]
; System = Port Wing Structure
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.19]
; System = Port Ail. Cntrl Cable
effect.0=100,BREAK,1,


[EFFECTS.20]
; System = Port Gear
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.21]
; System = Starboard Gear
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.22]
; System = Port Wing Tip Structure
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.23]
; System = Starboard Wing Structure
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.24]
; System = Starboard Ail. Cntrl Cable
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.25]
; System = Starboard Gear
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.26]
; System = Starboard Wing Tip Structure
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.27]
; System = Starboard Aileron
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.28]
; System = Tail (fwd) Structure
effect.0=100,BOMB,1,


[EFFECTS.29]
; System = Tail (rear) Structure
effect.0=100,BREAK,3,


[EFFECTS.30]
; System = Rudder
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.31]
; System = Port Elevator
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[EFFECTS.32]
; System = Starboard Elevator
effect.0=100,BREAK,,


[GUNSTATIONS]
;Chin Gun
gunstation.0=0,45,1,0.06,750,2,0.01,500,1,40,1d1*11, 0.00, 1.05, 5.5, 0, 00, 000,-60, 60, 85,0,0.4
;Upper Gun
gunstation.1=1,57,2,0.06,750,2,0.01,600,0,40,1d1*11, 0.00, 1.60,-4.7, 0,0,-180,-180,180,80,0,0.4
;Lower Gun
gunstation.2=1,57,2,0.06,750,2,0.01,600,0,40,1d1*11, 0.15,-0.50,-3.7, 0,0,-180,-60,60,-80,0,0.4
;Bombs
gunstation.3=3,21,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0


[guns.0]
gun.0=600,0,0,0,0,0,1,600


[guns.1]
gun.0=600,0,0,0,0,0,1,600


[guns.2]
gun.0=600,0,0,0,0,0,1,600


[guns.3]
gun.0=8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0


[guns.4]
gun.0=1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0


[HARDPOINTS]
//Bombs
mount.0= 0.00,-0.85, 0.0
mount.1= -0.45,-0.65, 1.7
mount.2= 0.45,-0.65, 1.7
mount.3= -0.45,-0.65,-0.5
mount.4= 0.45,-0.65,-0.5
mount.5= -5.50,-0.20, 1.0
mount.6= 5.50,-0.20, 1.0
mount.7= -5.25,-0.25, 1.0
mount.8= 5.25,-0.25, 1.0
mount.9= -5.00,-0.30, 1.0
mount.10= 5.00,-0.30, 1.0
//Mounts
mount.11= 0.00,-0.70, 0.5
mount.12=-0.45,-0.70, 1.5
mount.13= 0.45,-0.70, 1.5
mount.14=-0.45,-0.70,-0.5
mount.15= 0.45,-0.70,-0.5
mount.16=-5.50,-0.20, 0.0
mount.17= 5.50,-0.20, 0.0
mount.18=-5.25,-0.25, 0.0
mount.19= 5.25,-0.25, 0.0
mount.20=-5.00,-0.30, 0.0
mount.21= 5.00,-0.30, 0.0


[PAYLOADS]
payload.0=Guns Only
payload.1=1 x 800kg bomb
payload.2=4 x 250kg Bombs
payload.3=10 x 60kg bombs


[PAYLOAD.0]
; Payload = Guns Only


[PAYLOAD.1]
; Payload = 1 x 800kg bomb
mount.0=wep_jp_800kg_ija_bomb, 1, -1
mount.11=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,


[PAYLOAD.2]
; Payload = 4 x 250kg Bombs
mount.1=wep_ja_250kg_gp, 1, -1
mount.2=wep_ja_250kg_gp, 1, 1
mount.3=wep_ja_250kg_gp, 1, 1
mount.4=wep_ja_250kg_gp, 1, 1
mount.12=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,
mount.13=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,
mount.14=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,
mount.15=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,


[PAYLOAD.3]
; Payload = 10 x 60kg bombs
mount.1= wep_ja_60kg_gp, 1,-1
mount.2= wep_ja_60kg_gp, 1, 1
mount.3= wep_ja_60kg_gp, 1, 1
mount.4= wep_ja_60kg_gp, 1, 1
mount.5= wep_ja_60kg_gp, 1, 1
mount.6= wep_ja_60kg_gp, 1, 1
mount.7= wep_ja_60kg_gp, 1, 1
mount.8= wep_ja_60kg_gp, 1, 1
mount.9= wep_ja_60kg_gp, 1, 1
mount.10=wep_ja_60kg_gp, 1, 1
mount.12=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,
mount.13=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,
mount.14=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,
mount.15=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,
mount.16=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,
mount.17=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,
mount.18=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,
mount.19=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,
mount.20=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,
mount.21=wep_pylon_ja_wing, 1,


[MISC_DATA]
unit_family=2
category=2
allegiance=4
max_group_size=8
min_speed=83
cruise_speed=249
max_speed=373
min_alt=50
cruise_alt=6076
max_alt=9114
entered_service=8/1/32
crew=4


[STRINGS]
"box_name.0"=Nose Turret
"box_name.1"=Pilot
"box_name.2"=Co-Pilot
"box_name.3"=Front Gunner
"box_name.4"=Rear Gunner
"box_name.5"=Port Wing
"box_name.6"=Port Wingtip
"box_name.7"=Starboard Wing
"box_name.8"=Starboard Wingtip
"box_name.9"=Central fuselage
"box_name.10"=Rear Fuselage
"box_name.11"=Port Rudder
"box_name.12"=Starboard Rudder
"box_name.13"=Horizontal Stabilizer
"box_name.14"=Belly Gun
"box_name.15"=Port Engine
"box_name.16"=Starboard Engine
"box_name.17"=Port Gear
"box_name.18"=Starboard Gear
"system_name.0"=Nose Structure
"system_name.1"=Port Coolant Reservoir
"system_name.2"=Starboard Coolant Reservoir
"system_name.3"=Port Oil Reservoir
"system_name.4"=Starboard Oil Reservoir
"system_name.5"=Engine 1
"system_name.6"=Engine 2
"system_name.7"=Cockpit
"system_name.8"=Radio
"system_name.9"=Port Fuel Tank
"system_name.10"=Starboard Fuel Tank
"system_name.11"=Chin Gun
"system_name.12"=Upper Gun
"system_name.13"=Lower Gun
"system_name.14"=Fuselage Structure
"system_name.15"=Rudder Cntrl Cable
"system_name.16"=Bomb Release
"system_name.17"=Elevator Cntrl Cable
"system_name.18"=Port Wing Structure
"system_name.19"=Port Ail. Cntrl Cable
"system_name.20"=Port Gear
"system_name.21"=Starboard Gear
"system_name.22"=Port Wing Tip Structure
"system_name.23"=Starboard Wing Structure
"system_name.24"=Starboard Ail. Cntrl Cable
"system_name.25"=Starboard Gear
"system_name.26"=Starboard Wing Tip Structure
"system_name.27"=Starboard Aileron
"system_name.28"=Tail (fwd) Structure
"system_name.29"=Tail (rear) Structure
"system_name.30"=Rudder
"system_name.31"=Port Elevator
"system_name.32"=Starboard Elevator


; DPED Version 1.20
 
Oh for G sake, you don't know what you're doing, do you! :stupid:

''Example:- gunstation.0=0,-2,1,0.10,883,2,0.01,500,2,40,4d4*14,-2.826,-0.653,0.696, 0.2494260,13.010904,1.0793248,0,0,0,0,1.60

weapon type. An index value specifying the weapon type.

CFS2 WEAPON TYPES
0 = Machine Gun
1 = Cannon
2 = Rocket
3 = Bomb
4 = [unknown]
5 = Torpedo .........''


From YOUR DP....

[GUNSTATIONS]
;Chin Gun
gunstation.0=0,45,1,0.06,750,2,0.01,500,1,40,1d1*1 1, 0.00, 1.05, 5.5, 0, 00, 000,-60, 60, 85,0,0.4
;Upper Gun
gunstation.1=1,57,2,0.06,750,2,0.01,600,0,40,1d1*1 1, 0.00, 1.60,-4.7, 0,0,-180,-180,180,80,0,0.4
;Lower Gun
gunstation.2=1,57,2,0.06,750,2,0.01,600,0,40,1d1*1 1, 0.15,-0.50,-3.7, 0,0,-180,-60,60,-80,0,0.4
;Bombs
gunstation.3=3,21,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0


You have an MG at Gunstation '0'
BUT you have a cannon at gunstation '1' and '2'
and a bomb at '3'...

Before you criticise, make sure you have your facts right and you're watertight yourself!

Nothing about 'peace', it's about respect and appropriate comments. I appreciate you're mother tongue is Portuguese, but you still understand how to write things appropriately, or not, and your English is very good, so you know how to express yourself well enough.

Just think before posting comments or PM me.

Shessi
 
Gentlemen......

First , Shessi, Thank you for another great plane to add to my CBI theater. I do love , and admire, your work , commitment and attention to detail.

Pepe, there is a rule in personnel management that states "Praise in public, criticize in private". That was a rule I lived by when managing my personnel and violated it once in a fit of rage and regret it to this day as the person who became the object of my violation happened to be a good worker and person. My second rule was always be nice to people while on the way up, you may need them on the way down.:untroubled:

So remember that and keep that in mind when drawing attention to a problem. That is what PM's are for.
 
Anyhoooo...back in the room..:)

Thanks for the comments guys. I know it won't be top of your list for flying (it's not mine either lol!), but if you want to do any missions/campaigns in that inter-war period in the Far East (do people in the US say the Far West??!), then maybe.

Tick another one off the list, and many thanks to Kimihiro Midosi for the initial model.

Cheers

Shessi
 
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