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Skittles said:
With sentience/advanced brain activity. It makes all the difference.
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Well, it makes us the current pinnacle in that department for sure.

But then again, who are we to dare making ourselves more important than other species? Just because we can?
 
Bjoern said:
Well, it makes us the current pinnacle in that department for sure.

But then again, who are we to dare making ourselves more important than other species? Just because we can?
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The millions of animals we eat every day probably agree with your sentement. I dare not delve into it, I don't think we would get anywhere.
 
Skittles said:
The millions of animals we eat every day probably agree with your sentient. I dare not delve into it, I don't think we would get anywhere.
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Actually I don't think they can agree ... as first of all most animals I eat are usually dead and well cooked at the time therefore rendering their ability to "think" useless.

Secondly, animals as we know, are not (whats the word they use on star trek, sentient beings(?),) or on an equal par with humans in that they are not capable of free will choice, they are instinctive therefore lesser creatures than we horrible humans.

I'll quit now ...
 
Snuffy said:
Actually I don't think they can agree ... as first of all most animals I eat are usually dead and well cooked at the time therefore rendering their ability to "think" useless.

Secondly, animals as we know, are not (whats the word they use on star trek, sentient beings(?),) or on an equal par with humans in that they are not capable of free will choice, they are instinctive therefore lesser creatures than we horrible humans.

I'll quit now ...
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Are humans capable of free will in choice? Are we not instinctual? Perhaps so, but it may not necessarily be a positive thing to ignore your instincts as they have evolved over hundreds of thousands of years to keep you alive.
 
Actually we were rendered with free will long before we became "instinctive" ... as instinct pertaining to humans is something that has to be learned over time, with animals its intuitive and from the begining.

(0h! and please fix those double Are(s) you have ... made it exceptionally difficult to read. )
 
Snuffy said:
Actually we were rendered with free will long before we became "instinctive" ... as instinct pertaining to humans is something that has to be learned over time, with animals its intuitive and from the begining.

(0h! and please fix those double Are(s) you have ... made it exceptionally difficult to read. )
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I fixed it, sorry for the confusion.
 
Ken Stallings said:
No doubt not shocking for you. However, I submit very shocking and cold for not only myself but for many other people as well. When I entered into this thread, I endeavored to merely post my objective observations on the topic and avoid reply to other comments. But truly, your comparison was simply too shocking to ignore.

Human life is special and sacred and for my suits cannot be reduced to cold analysis. For me a scientific understanding simply increases the sacredness. It does not provide a basis for antiseptic comparisons. In short the way in which a human life develops does not pass a litmus test for meaning. The meaning is entirely within the human potential for special achievement and that potential starts immediately upon conception. I submit that this concept is at the heart of this family's decision to bring the child to birth and by doing so salvage something noble resulting from something so horribly criminal.

Ken
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well if you are so superior, that you attempt to speak for others, please let me point out that i request you not to speak out, and express your opinion for me.
Thank you. I have become old enough to do that by now.

Humans are bacteria. Water. Biological mass. electricity. and often enough insanity. Stupid enough to think they are superior to cockroaches... wich they aren't.
And i can treat it as such with no remorse whatsoever.

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give the stepfather a break. let the child come to "life" and check the DNA then.
Stepfather guilty: he gone
Stepfather not guilty: Child gone to a safer place.

Thanks snuffy for your line of thinking, about the "evil" 11 year old mother throwing accusations around.
Would wish anyone to have a mother like that.
 
HundertzehnGustav said:
well if you are so superior, that you attempt to speak for others, please let me point out that i request you not to speak out, and express your opinion for me.
Thank you. I have become old enough to do that by now.

Humans are bacteria. Water. Biological mass. electricity. and often enough insanity. Stupid enough to think they are superior to cockroaches... wich they aren't.
And i can treat it as such with no remorse whatsoever.

OT:
give the stepfather a break. let the child come to "life" and check the DNA then.
Stepfather guilty: he gone
Stepfather not guilty: Child gone to a safer place.

Thanks snuffy for your line of thinking, about the "evil" 11 year old mother throwing accusations around.
Would wish anyone to have a mother like that.
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It's O.K. your still a "Good" person, no matter what you think of yourself. Enjoy your cockroaches, just dont let them outsmart you.
 
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