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Hi BuV,

Thanks for the heads up.

I don't know if I have those. Are they individual? or in groups of three?

What I really need are individual.

Chris
 
Sully if I may put my foot in my mouth here! The two bldg which MR speaks of are; a-beam of the dry-dock "2-20"x50" steel pre-fab's with a wood structure a-top" as to the actual length of the bldg don't know, however they come in 10' bay's for erection. The aft bldg most likely is an "40'x100' pre-fab Elephant Hut". This link may help:http://www.quonsethuts.org/huts/index.htm , http://quonsetpoint.artinruins.com/quonset_hut.htm and this will help with details; http://wadahp.wordpress.com/2010/01/14/style-guide-quonset-huts-1941-to-1960/

Hope this well hell in your endeavor.

Skipsan :kilroy:
 
Hi BuV. As it turns out I do have wolfi's tanks and actually used one of the 3 tank objects way over in the "utility" area of Apra- off in the NE corner. I also used three of the power plants (I think from the same pack?).

I love 'em but for a tank farm they are a tad on the large size- not flimsy enough. ;)

Anyhow, there is steady progress at Apra. Got Xavier's cement piers lining the shore in all appropriate places. Just a few little details and some trees to add.

A few screenies.
 
Good stuff out there by Wolfi and Xavier!

Thanks Skip, as always, I'll check out the sites and get by cadre of design engineers, dockyard foreman and workers out of the bars and back to work. :a1089:

But I suppose that won't be hard, cause I'm there too!:salute:
 
Quickie update-

Got the runways for NW and North fields accurately laid in. Moving along.

Happy Memorial Day weekend to all!
 
Looks like Joltin' Josie* will finally have an airstrip to come home to!

*One of the first B-29 bombers to land in the Marianas. Lost on operations.
 
Jagdflieger said:
Looks like Joltin' Josie* will finally have an airstrip to come home to!

*One of the first B-29 bombers to land in the Marianas. Lost on operations.
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I'll try to make her feel at home!

BTW- anyone know of a decent B-29 floating around anywhere? I want to test one out on these runways. As far as I can discern the runways at both NW and North field were 8400 feet long. The ones at North Field (Andersen Field) were lengthened out to around 10500 feet- but I believe that this was sometime well after the war. Could be wrong. However- the NW field runways were definitely 8400 feet and B-29s flew in and out of there- pretty sure.

Does 8400 feet sound like enough to any of you guys who would know?

Anyway, I want to find out.
 
Just did some googling and came up with a link to Sopwith Chameleon's website and from there a link to Gnoopey's B-29. Excellent. What a nice aircraft- and, it gets in the air fully loaded on that 8400 foot runway. Tough little bugger to keep up there though until you figure out how to coax her along. Luck there is a nice 600 foot drop at the end of the runway.

Among it's many nice points is that ACS/GPS is built in!

While I was there at SC's site I went wild. I don't know if I have been to SC web site before. What a treasure house!

Thanks!
Chris
 
MaskRider said:
.....Gnoopey's B-29. Excellent. What a nice aircraft- and, it gets in the air fully loaded on that 8400 foot runway. Tough little bugger to keep up there though until you figure out how to coax her along. Luck there is a nice 600 foot drop at the end of the runway....
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Iwo's main runway drop was just as scary, if not more...

Don't forget to set takeoff trim and WEP on your roll out....it helps a lot! Goes a long way towards assisting with that "keep up there" part too---LOL. And now that you've got the groove, try planning and flying a round trip bombing mission to Tokyo and back in real time with no warp --- be sure to use the head and pack a lunch after briefing. ;-))
 
Jean Bomber said:
Hi Chris

perhaps have you already seen to this link ,the aerial pics and the maps are very interesting

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/HI/Airfields_W_Pacific.htm
http://www.airfields-freeman.com/HI/Airfields_W_Pacific.htm#guamnw

as single storage oil tank object there are the AF_OilTankB1, B2 and AF_OilTankG1,G2 from one Pen32win object pack af_afldbldg1.zip
and how is working this more robust mesh ?

JP
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Thanks for all the information and the links, JP. That "Little known and forgotten airfields" is a very useful website.

Don't know why I don't have those oil tanks of Pen32win's. I'll get them though for sure.

WRT "how is working this more robust mesh ?", the answer is very nicely. The difference between it and Rhumbas is very subtle but is noticeable. So, with your permission I would like to use it when ever Irelease this Marianas Package. I did have to redraw a couple of flattens down around Apra harbor because your mesh and Rhumbas didn't quite jibe in a couple of places. But that was a no brainer- an easy adjustment.

I attach a couple of screenies to show you the difference. The first two taken at the North end of Guam. They are labeled. You can see that the difference is very subtle- but enough to make a nice difference. Same goes with the third screenie- a split shot of the area east of Apra Harbor- yours on top.

BTW- in both meshes the elevations at the various locations are pretty much spot on.

PS Sorry for labeling the picture "Just JC's" instead of "Just JP's".
 
I have really fallen behind the times, JP! I just downloaded Pen32Wins af_afldblgd1.zip.

All I can say is "WOW!"

It is truly one of the most comprehensive and realistic collections of airfield objects available for the PTO. I have been looking for the stuff in the collection forever- making do without the best I can, The oil tanks are great as are all of the various buildings and strucxtures that were to found at airfields all over the PTO. I really love that BIG horseshoe shaped aircraft revetment. That is a classic!

Its fun to return to the old hobby from time to time- always so many talented people contributing all the time. I just play with the toys that other much more talented developers make!
 
The difference is between mesh LOD8 and LOD9 ,they are in a better place on your scenery than in my HD sleeping :sleep: free to you to use it for the Marianas ;)
The af_afldblgd1 are also very good with the fps

JP
 
bearcat241 said:
Iwo's main runway drop was just as scary, if not more...

Don't forget to set takeoff trim and WEP on your roll out....it helps a lot! Goes a long way towards assisting with that "keep up there" part too---LOL. And now that you've got the groove, try planning and flying a round trip bombing mission to Tokyo and back in real time with no warp --- be sure to use the head and pack a lunch after briefing. ;-))
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Thanks for those tips, bearcat141. As for a real time round trip to tokyo and back- hmmmmm, I'll have to think long and hard about that! Its sounds pretty danged challenging- think I'd have to bring my Direct TV along, too.
 
Got the main framework of North West Field pretty well jigged up and penciled in. Big and sprawling is about all I can say about it.

A few screenies:
 
Guam's Northwest field has been a real challenge. As far as I can tell it was never actually completed- not according to the original layout plans anyway. All of the aerial photos I have been able to find show it basically looking like the layout above. Always under construction and never finished.

When one looks at the location in Google earth it is quite apparent that only a few of the 140+ or so hard stands were ever constructed- their crushed coral and limestone under layer and asphalt topping would have stood the test of time and still be visible- the hard stands that were constructed were mostly north of the north runway- the runway in the foreground in the attached screen shots. For the south runway and probably half of the northern hardstands- just large rectangular parking "lots" were grated and paved. They are quite apparent in the photos and in what is still visible in Google earth today.

Google earth also shows what at first blush appears to be a huge network of taxiways and dispersal areas off to south of the eastern end of the south runway. Couldn't figure these for a while. They were definitely not there during WWII. Turns out, they were constructed during the Viet Nam War and were not taxiway or dispersal areas at all but a massive complex of ammo storage bunkers and handling facilities.

Yesterday while exploring tangential web links to guams north west field I finally stumbled across what I had been looking for all along- a plan of what Northwest Field was supposed to look like. That is the plan I used to do a "finished" version of the field- roughed in for now. That is the version shown in the attached screen shots.

Still need to pencil in the roads before starting on the masks and such.

North Field (Andersen Field) was actually finished according to plan- and I had no problem finding the original WWII layout drawing of it.

Like I said though- getting an accurate idea of what Northwest Field was supposed to look like and actually did look like has been a challenging/fun piece of detective work.

I am thinking that I will release both versions of Northwest Field- as built and as planned.

All for now- just wanted to share my thoughts on the topic.
 
The latest. Getting the ground texturing and object layout pretty well dialed in up at Northwest Field. Anyone one want to play with this toy?

This is the full tilt as planned version of Northwest Field. Don't think it ever really got more than half up to these specs. It handled the number of planes it was built to handle- just not in the style they were supposed to get accustomed to.

This view looks from east west. The 2nd taxiway full of hard stands on the north (right) side was never constructed. On the south (left) side of the field no individual "round" hard stands were ever built- as far as i can tell. Just rectangular asphalt parking areas. The large maintenance areas on either side of the field were both built.
 
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