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China's 5th generation fighter?

Ferry_vO

Retired SOH Administrator
Only a few photos, no further info..:

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I think it's one seriously ugly aircraft. But then again, not many jets made after the Vietnam War have any character in their design....in my opinion at any rate.

OBIO
 
I think it's one seriously ugly aircraft. But then again, not many jets made after the Vietnam War have any character in their design....in my opinion at any rate.

OBIO

No love for the YF-23?
 
Seeing as how our Wal-Mart purchases are paying for their aircraft development I wish they'd come up with something more original. :rolleyes:
 
Seeing as how our Wal-Mart purchases are paying for their aircraft development I wish they'd come up with something more original. :rolleyes:

Epic burn... but

After all, All China dose is make copies of things other people already made at half the price! Why should there planes be any different!
 
People may think that they are copying designs, but I see it differently. Given that radar beams across the world all behave similarly, it is possible that there are only a few ways to design a plane that reflects or absorbs radar energy.

I see it like the Honda Insight Hybrid car has a very similar aerodynamic side profile to the Toyota Prius. Both driven by the need to cut emissions they have both come up with very similar designs in terms of drag efficiency. The same can be quite true of radar.
 
It was coming but this is just the tip of the iceberg. It doesn't have to be superior or even level to the F-22 or F-35. If it's roughly in the ballpark and they build several hundred to or over 1000 of them, 188 F-22's isn't enough even with the numbers of F-35's that may be built. China can turn out vast numbers of heavy manufactured equipment at far below the cost of what the West pays for far less numberwise. Word is, they are working on a low observable global bomber which in addition to their newer solid fuel mobile ICBM's would be a game changer. I'm not going to be at all dismissive of what they may be up to in terms of long term strategy and production capability. Especially considering their openly hostile tone at times and the fact their war planning that was revealed doesn't contain any olive branches for the West. The 15 years I helped part time in a private firm with advanced strategic studies on China showed many troubling trends. This project and many other things are worth keeping an eye on.
 
And then there's...

Given that radar beams across the world all behave similarly, it is possible that there are only a few ways to design a plane that reflects or absorbs radar energy.

...the American answer to that fact -- the TR-3B Stryker II (Black Manta) Stealth...uhh, sorry, it really doesn't exist yet (wink wink): http://www.darkgovernment.com/tr3b.html

But if it did exist (wink), it would be 10th-gen compared to the anti-radar capabilities of this J20/XX knockoff. And i won't even bother with comparing flight performance specs.:isadizzy:
 
It does look very high tech in my opinion. How can they have gone that high tech in just 10 years? Remember, they also now have a space program.

How it flies will say all.
 
As one who has dealt with the Chinese (only because if you don't and you're in a competitive market, it becomes a non-issue because you are 'out of business') 'originality' is not in their lexicon.
However, give them a working product, be it a humble Life Jacket or an up market Electronic whatever, not only will you get a decent product at a very competitive price, if you have specified EXACTLY how and what improvements you require, the end result is satisfactory.

India is much the same except they are far better businessmen and indeed, tend to apply some genuine innovations in specialised areas.

We don't like it but it is a fact of 21st Century Life.
For myself, as the marine business is no longer of interest to me due to my younger brother having a stroke, I'm very happy not flying in and out of Shanghai.
:ernae:
 
I don't think that it'll be very agile. It doesn't seem to utilize thrust vectoring like the russian MiG/Sukhoi platforms or F22/F35 do. I believe it's more of a high speed interceptor with long range.
 
It does look very high tech in my opinion. How can they have gone that high tech in just 10 years? Remember, they also now have a space program.

Money <-> know-how



I don't think that it'll be very agile. It doesn't seem to utilize thrust vectoring like the russian MiG/Sukhoi platforms or F22/F35 do. I believe it's more of a high speed interceptor with long range.

Or a fighter-bomber.



Love your avatar; by the way. "Scandinavia and the world" is cool. :d
 
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