Cessna 195 for FSX

[papab]

So with all these responses and activity from my original thread, in trying to get an FS9 to port do you think there is any developer out their that wants to take on the Cessna 195 challange for FSX????

I did drop a line to Carenado.....With all this responses, maybe can get this beautiful post war era, radial engine, native FSX aircraft flying

We can only hope!

Rick

BTW- would pay top $$$ for a great reproduction...

 

[falcon409]

That worked Ed.. Thank you.. Was a little odd that I had to turn the lights on and then off to see the wood, but hey, i ain't complainin' :;lol:; Damned happy that its working..
Pam

That is a bit odd Pam, but glad it got you going.:salute:

 

[falcon409]

So with all these responses and activity from my original thread, in trying to get an FS9 to port do you think there is any developer out their that wants to take on the Cessna 195 challenge for FSX????

I did drop a line to Carenado.....With all this responses, maybe can get this beautiful post war era, radial engine, native FSX aircraft flying

We can only hope!
Rick
BTW- would pay top $$$ for a great reproduction...

It is a bit odd that with all the high wing Cessna's that Carenado has produced they somehow missed (or intentionally ignored) the Cessna 195. It is the one Cessna high wing I would actually consider paying money for unless it was overpriced ($40 to $50 range). Then I would just make do with Joe Binka's model.

 

[Walter]

It is a bit odd that with all the high wing Cessna's that Carenado has produced they somehow missed (or intentionally ignored) the Cessna 195. It is the one Cessna high wing I would actually consider paying money for unless it was overpriced ($40 to $50 range). Then I would just make do with Joe Binka's model.

Same here. I am very interested to see if anybody will take up this as a project...

 

[warchild]

Wellll, I would, but theres only two things i would change in the flight model.. I'd adjust the drag on the landing gear so it slowed down sooner on landing, and I'd adjust the brakes so that it didnt flip as soon as you applied them.. Outside of those two things the plane flies beautifully in my system..

 

[warchild]

I'm stumped guys.. Ive been in MDLmat alll day trying to figure out whats going on with that panel reflection.. At first i just hadto learn how to change and save the data. its a bit convoluted with that copying stuff into and out of the editing section, but after i figured that out, i decided to go thrrough and change all the alpha values fo the panel to zero, and then proceeded to change all the other values as well. nothing i do, whether its in diffuse, ambient, specular, emmissive, or specularity seems to make any difference.. Like i said, I'm stumped.. Has anyone else had any better luck with it??
Pam

 

[warchild]

UN-Stumped...

ok, i've found the main problem.. But that creates a second problem..

I ran into this with another plane a long time ago and i'm sorry it took so long for me to think of it, but in your panel config file, under the virtual cockpit entries you'll see that it calls for both a Background color and a texture file..

[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=400
visible=1
pixel_size=1024
texture=$P1

Something between those two does nbot agree. I'm no expert so i dont have a clue about the details..
IF you comment out either one, there will bve NO REFLECTION with lights on, but if you comment out the texture you end up with pure black and no instruments.. However, IF you comment out the "Backround=" line you get instruments but the texture remains black. This is because the texture ( $P1 ) is basically a black texture with little round areas for the instruments to peak out from..

If you simply make the alpha for the P1 texture black the panel remains black with the instruments showing..

I'll see what i can do about making P1 the correct wood texture with instruments on it.. shouldnt be too hard..

Pam

OK: Correction.. ( God's I ghet excited so easily.. hmmph ) P1.bmp does not exist in the texture folder.. in fact, it doesnt exist anywhere.. What DOES exist is P1_L, P2_L and P3_L all night time textures.. the daytime texture files the panel config is calling for are all missing..
Frustrating..
Pam

Sorry guys, I did try, but i cant fix it.. it'll need someone more knowledgeable than me to do it.. apologies..
Pam

 

[Walter]

P1.bmp does not exist in the texture folder.. in fact, it doesnt exist anywhere.. What DOES exist is P1_L, P2_L and P3_L all night time textures.. the daytime texture files the panel config is calling for are all missing..
Frustrating..
Pam

So does that mean that the P1.bmp needs to be made in order for it to work correctly?

 

[falcon409]

. . . . . . .OK: Correction.. ( God's I get excited so easily.. hmmph ) P1.bmp does not exist in the texture folder.. in fact, it doesnt exist anywhere.. What DOES exist is P1_L, P2_L and P3_L all night time textures.. the daytime texture files the panel config is calling for are all missing..
Frustrating..
Pam

Sorry guys, I did try, but i cant fix it.. it'll need someone more knowledgeable than me to do it.. apologies..
Pam

Pam, aren't textures that are designated with the "$", actually placeholders built into the actual model? I can find a lot of VC textures that are designated with the "$" that don't show in the texture folder, as a matter of fact, most VC textures are named that way and never are part of the actual texture folder. I'm pretty sure the only way to access those textures and fix the problem is to have the source code, (and know what to do with it, lol).

 

[warchild]

To be honest Ed, I dont know. I'm quite the neophyte when it comes to these things, but i can relay my results and that may help a tiny bit..

Creating a P1.bmp made no change. the panel remained black. Creating a p1_t.BMP made no change, the panel remained black. copying the P1_T to the P1_L.bmp made a significant change, the instruments disappeared..
Reversing the alpha on P1_L.bmp made no change, the instruments remained hidden.
Copying in the P1_L.bmp from one of the other planes made a bi change. the instruments reappeared but the panel remained black..
Uncommenting the "Background=" line changed everything back to the way it was. Panel has wood but goes to chrome as soon as you turn on the lights.
It appears that P1_T.bmp is not used at all.. P1_L.bmp appears to be little more than a mask for the instruments.

changing the values of the background= line also has an effect, but only to lighten or darken the amount of reflectance that the panel gives off when the lights are turned on..

I must have tried fifty different variations today, and nothing worked.. I'm not saying there is no solution, because i dont know enough to know that, but i couldn't find one.. Since i work mostly with numbers thats not too embarrasing of an admission. I'm just sorry i couldnt find the solution..

you know, its really a shame because this is such an amazingly beautiful little aircraft to fly in fsx.. it took me all of ten minutes to adjust the FDE so it didnt flop nose over as soon as you hit the brakes. Once that was done it became a wonderful aircraft.. I'm really hoping someone can fix the panel because i'd really like to change the panel config so fsx stops complaining when i load it, and put in a G-1000 or an avidyne system..

 

[falcon409]

. . . . . . .you know, its really a shame because this is such an amazingly beautiful little aircraft to fly in fsx.. it took me all of ten minutes to adjust the FDE so it didnt flop nose over as soon as you hit the brakes. Once that was done it became a wonderful aircraft.. I'm really hoping someone can fix the panel because i'd really like to change the panel config so fsx stops complaining when i load it, and put in a G-1000 or an avidyne system..

I agree Pam, a really nicely done model and I still fly it, just without the lights on, so day flights are all I use it for. Would your FDE tweak fix what ails my airplane?? When I crank it up, the darn thing starts flopping all over the airport. I can hit "slew" and get it back on the ground, but as soon as I come out of slew it's back bouncing all over the place.

 

[warchild]

i dont think my tweak would would help that, but i may have another idea or two..

In the config file under load section, theres a load entry for a beer ballast ( C-195_TT) .. Its commented out. try un-commenting that. it may help.

The second idea i have stems from what i did to the config file..
What ive done for the past several planes i've worked on, is to strip everything off the planes down to an empty engine-less shell, then add everything back in one at a time in the load section. this is because even though FSX takes note of an engines location it doesnt take into account its weight.. It makes a big difference to have that weight where it belongs.. I'll start digging around for all the correct weights for the engine batteries, seats, everything and make those changes.. It'll help..

If you could do me a huge favor i'd appreciate it.. Take the 126 up and tell me if it bounces around on the water.. also take the TT up as well as the rescue plane.. try taking off from a default airport as well, where there is no third party scenery present.

Sometimes, this bouncing can be aggravated by a too stiff suspension. and it shws up the greatest on third party scenery where there might be differences in elevation between the underlying default scenery and the third party overlay.. Not saying thats what it is, but its worth a shot.. if thats whats causing it, i can fix it.. If its not whats causing it, then we'll just have to dig deeper till we find it..

If youd like, i can PM you my config file.. it wont correct the perfectly frictionless landing gear, but it may help a little.. Its for the TT though ( i like big bouncy tires ).. Let me know..
Pam

 

[papab]

Wellll, I would, but theres only two things i would change in the flight model.. I'd adjust the drag on the landing gear so it slowed down sooner on landing, and I'd adjust the brakes so that it didnt flip as soon as you applied them.. Outside of those two things the plane flies beautifully in my system..

Warchild
So can you get all the folks needed to create a native FSX model?
I wish I could help but i have not learned the magic you folks are able to create...
I just enjoy flying your creations..


Maybe it could be donationware........and have the money help SOH....
Just a thought
Rick

 

[Walter]

Warchild
So can you get all the folks needed to create a native FSX model?
I wish I could help but i have not learned the magic you folks are able to create...
I just enjoy flying your creations..


Maybe it could be donation ware........and have the money help SOH....
Just a thought
Rick

Great idea! Yes, I quite agree. Donationware would be great!

 

[warchild]

i dont know if i can or not gentlemen.. The reality is this.. Most modelers are quite busy. They have lives and commitments like all of us.. Many of them have their plates filled with other projects.. I feel especially grateful for roberts efforts on the P-61, but his plate is fulll as well with another project waiting for him.. then too, even for modelers, this is a hobby. they do the planes they enjoy.. not everyone enjoys working on GA aircraft. I'm working on this one because i think its a very cool little plane and deserving of a concerted effort to make it right.. Up until a few days ago, I never had heard of it and you couldnt have gotten me to work on it with a gun to my head ( yes, i can be just that stubborn ).. Other developers are no different.. I will do what i am capable of doing, but my suggestion for now is, we got a great plane that just needs to be fixed, and with the efforts and talents of the folks that are already here in this thread, i dont see why we cant fix it. Once thats done, then lets look at making it native ..
Pam

 

[warchild]

Ok, Ed and all the panel people.. I dont know what this pic says, but i know it says something ( more than just the panel is broke )..
On my machine, the panel only turns chrome during the day time. At night, the panel turns black, but the instruments stick out rather nicely..
Not sure what it means, but am passing it along in hopes that someone has a clue and can guide us..
Pam

View attachment 43420

As long as there is sunlight, the panel remains chromed. as soon as the sun disappears, the panel goes black.. I dont know if that means anything but thought i'd put it out there..

 

[papab]

i dont know if i can or not gentlemen.. The reality is this.. Most modelers are quite busy. They have lives and commitments like all of us.. Many of them have their plates filled with other projects.. I feel especially grateful for roberts efforts on the P-61, but his plate is fulll as well with another project waiting for him.. then too, even for modelers, this is a hobby. they do the planes they enjoy.. not everyone enjoys working on GA aircraft. I'm working on this one because i think its a very cool little plane and deserving of a concerted effort to make it right.. Up until a few days ago, I never had heard of it and you couldnt have gotten me to work on it with a gun to my head ( yes, i can be just that stubborn ).. Other developers are no different.. I will do what i am capable of doing, but my suggestion for now is, we got a great plane that just needs to be fixed, and with the efforts and talents of the folks that are already here in this thread, i dont see why we cant fix it. Once thats done, then lets look at making it native ..
Pam

Thanks for your response Pam...You have the inside, I do not....

Rick

 

[warchild]

Thanks Rick,. But i dont really have ther inside line. I'm a loner, a wildcat if you will. i rarely visit and developer forums and hardly know any other developers by any more than reputation.. But dont worry, we'll make this right.,. I havent given up my guessing yet and am still working on it. i figure someone else is too.. sooner or later, one of us will find the answer and we can make sure everyone has the fixes so we can all enjoy this lil plane..

 

[falcon409]

. . . . . . .As long as there is sunlight, the panel remains chromed. as soon as the sun disappears, the panel goes black.. I dont know if that means anything but thought i'd put it out there..

Ok, have you loaded the airplane during the daytime (or night actually, wouldn't make any difference) and verified that with the airplane running, but all light switches in the off position the panel shows the way it should?

 

[warchild]

Yes.. I really should have qualified my above picture.. I still have to turn the lights on, then off for the panel to display properly at all.. but with the lights off, once the panel is displaying properly it remains displaying properly until too dark to view. then when you turn the lights on at night, the panel goes black as in the above picture..