PMDG 737 NGX released!

[Kiwikat]

I dunno, once PMDG releases the 600/700 and possibly BBJ, I think iFly will be reserved for those who just don't want to spend the money for PMDG.

It is great that there are two (Ariane doesn't count...) incredible native FSX 737 addons available at different price points right now.

 

[warchild]

:: Of course ariane counts.. Frankly, I expect to at some point get senile enough to spend a hundred and fourty bucks on a plane, and when i do, i'll get the ariane.. Their graphics may not be state of the art, but systems wise, theyve been doing nit right for years.. now if only it would run on my machine instead of crashing the game.. ..

ps.. aint holding my breath on getting that senile..

 

[Kiwikat]

:: Of course ariane counts.. Frankly, I expect to at some point get senile enough to spend a hundred and fourty bucks on a plane, and when i do, i'll get the ariane.. Their graphics may not be state of the art, but systems wise, theyve been doing nit right for years..

Uh that's why they didn't have VNAV path implemented until just recently? That's why they don't have NAVIGRAPH updates?

They've been missing some BASIC functionality of complex addons... :mixedsmi:

Let's not even talk about their support.

 

[fliger747]

Brakes:

Carbon brakes are generally much more effective than steel brakes and do not generate, or are more resistant to heat. They have made a world od difference on heavy aircraft, one of the reasons the 747-400 is perationally superior to the older generation.

However: Carbon brakes wear according to the number of applications, so use of an appropriate autobrake setting is helpful in extending their life. For instance autobrakes one will often result in several applications and more wear than Two or a higher setting.

Steel brakes? You need to be a bit more careful to observe brake energy limits and aplication to avoid overheat.

T

 

[warchild]

interesting. I never had a problem with their VNav. It always worked.. On the other hand, even following directions, i cant get pmdg's vnav to function at all.. good thing its got a yoke huh??

 

[CG_1976]

Brakes:

Carbon brakes are generally much more effective than steel brakes and do not generate, or are more resistant to heat. They have made a world od difference on heavy aircraft, one of the reasons the 747-400 is perationally superior to the older generation.

However: Carbon brakes wear according to the number of applications, so use of an appropriate autobrake setting is helpful in extending their life. For instance autobrakes one will often result in several applications and more wear than Two or a higher setting.

Steel brakes? You need to be a bit more careful to observe brake energy limits and aplication to avoid overheat.

T

Thank you Fliger747, That helps explain the difference and use. Will also study some notes a American Airlines pilot gave me tonight at GRB on the 737.

 

[Ark]

Whe are you all trying to acitivate VNAV?

 

[warchild]

Whe are you all trying to acitivate VNAV?

Theres three ways to climb to altitude. you can set your altitude in the mcp and turn on the AP and use your vertical speed setting or N1 to get you there, or you can set everything in the fmc, hit VNAV which automatically initiates an N1 climb based on the way you programmed the fmc, or you can fly it by hand. Of the three, VNav is the safest way to get to altitude. I know Tom could describe it properly, but i gave my best shot..

 

[icycle]

Alternate opinion

An differing opinion of this "beast"

Unfortunately, am kicking myself for wasting $70 on the NGX (I might be in the minority here though)

I knew I should have stuck to the "other" one, as it works just fine for me. The PMDG NGX, is not very fun to fly, as in at all!

I can't for the life of me, get it above 29K feet (at a 50% load at an unrealistic .82 mach). The autopilot / auto-throttle is "quirky" - buffet from too slow, intersects with overs-peed warning at aforementioend 29K ft. You set a speed on the auto-throttle, and it can't keep that speed. Load B737-800 to 50% paying customers, and you can't even make a 1900 mile flight, with full fuel. Never had this level of issue with any of their products before. The forums are full of those who like to say, RFTM, even when it is obvious you have....

Admittedly, the model looks good, but I guess I don't really need an add-on that is such a pain in the A*# to get to work

Oh well, live and learn.

Bill

 

[Kiwikat]

I can't for the life of me, get it above 29K feet (at a 50% load at an unrealistic .82 mach). The autopilot / auto-throttle is "quirky" - buffet from too slow, intersects with overs-peed warning at aforementioend 29K ft. You set a speed on the auto-throttle, and it can't keep that speed. Load B737-800 to 50% paying customers, and you can't even make a 1900 mile flight, with full fuel. Never had this level of issue with any of their products before.

I haven't had that problem, that's for sure. Enjoyed cruising above FL350 on both of my flights I've done so far. I've only had 1 overspeed warning, and that was because of a fake FS wind shift. It quickly compensated and kept going on its way. Nothing quirky about it.

I made a 1800 mile flight on < 70% fuel with nearly full pax. Something has to be going wrong with yours. Not quite coming to the PEBCAK conclusion yet, but something's gotta be weird...

 

[Barfly]

Works perfectly fine if you follow the procedures... what was your max altitude displayed on the Cruise page of the FMS?

 

[icycle]

35,000
nothing unusual. The auto flight / auto throttle issues are really puzzling. It has to be some conflict, somewhere. I just don't have the time any more to diagnose the issues, and make this useable. Very frustrating! Suspect that it might be the attempt they have made to make the plane "sophisticated", that may be any issue.

The analogy, is let's say you splurge, and buy a Mercedes Benz. Only to get it home and find out that the engine does not work properly, and stalls all the time. Kind of takes away from the "fun factor".

Bill

 

[Barfly]

It definitely requires patience to learn this bird - but you can follow the real life procedures and get the correct results.

 

[trisager]

35,000
Suspect that it might be the attempt they have made to make the plane "sophisticated", that may be any issue.

Not having any of the issues that you report, so I suspect it is something about your particular installation.

That doesn't make it any less frustrating for you, of course.

 

[warchild]

Are you perchance using FSUIPC??

 

[ryanbatc]

An differing opinion of this "beast"

Unfortunately, am kicking myself for wasting $70 on the NGX (I might be in the minority here though)

I knew I should have stuck to the "other" one, as it works just fine for me. The PMDG NGX, is not very fun to fly, as in at all!

I can't for the life of me, get it above 29K feet (at a 50% load at an unrealistic .82 mach). The autopilot / auto-throttle is "quirky" - buffet from too slow, intersects with overs-peed warning at aforementioend 29K ft. You set a speed on the auto-throttle, and it can't keep that speed. Load B737-800 to 50% paying customers, and you can't even make a 1900 mile flight, with full fuel. Never had this level of issue with any of their products before. The forums are full of those who like to say, RFTM, even when it is obvious you have....

Admittedly, the model looks good, but I guess I don't really need an add-on that is such a pain in the A*# to get to work

Oh well, live and learn.

Bill

Sorry to say but there's nothing wrong with the model... it's on your end (I know I know I hate that cliche phrase) - but it works fine for me!

Are you by any chance running FSInn on vatsim or iavo? There's a big bug where the temperature inverts and as you climb it gets hotter and hotter, making it impossible to stay in even the lower flight levels.

 

[icycle]

Thanks for the feedback to all,

It looks as though my FSUIPC might have been the culprit. I disabled it, rebuilt its settings by re-enabling. Completely un-installed the NGX (deleted the repaint folders too, the whole works - including left-over registry entries after running the un-installer). I NEVER used it to ever set my joysticks, so for some reason the NGX & FSUIPC were just not playing nice together.

Re-installed the base aircraft only, took the 800WL out to KEDW and took it up to 37,000 using VS (I know I'm not "supposed" to do it that way), and it flew fine, with ASE, the works, UNTIL 25 mins into the flight, it decided to wingover into a dive. Now in the process of trying to see if the "lawn dart mode", is a new feature, or an anomaly.

Bill

 

[Kiwikat]

Re-installed the base aircraft only, took the 800WL out to KEDW and took it up to 37,000 using VS (I know I'm not "supposed" to do it that way), and it flew fine, with ASE, the works, UNTIL 25 mins into the flight, it decided to wingover into a dive. Now in the process of trying to see if the "lawn dart mode", is a new feature, or an anomaly.

Are you using ASE in DWC mode? It is known to have problems with PMDG aircraft due to the way it controls the weather in FS.

 

[CG_1976]

Now I'm one big happy Canuk All set a Nice new Canadian North paint by Frank at Ozx.

 

[warchild]

heheh. I'm happier ::::