Veneaviones Rockwell Turbo Commander 690B VC Upgrade

Works fine for me - on and off - with "Ctrl + ." but no visible handle or gauge entry I can see.
 
olderndirt said:
With a big assist from 'Expat', got this baby running - you guys will each have an attaboy inserted in your permanent files. My version of Ed's panel is missing a couple of altimeters - wonder if they went when FSX was subtracting all those gauges?View attachment 67431View attachment 67432
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Sorry about that. The altimeter I used was from the AS350. I would guess you could drop any other altimeter in there and it would work. I wanted one without the bezel since I'd already drawn them to match and that was the first one I came across. I think the easiest way would be to find one on another airplane that's just the gauge, look in that panel.cfg and copy the gauge reference (just the gauge name, not the location numbers) then plug that name into the turbo Commander panel config in place of the AS350.:salute:
 
olderndirt said:
With a big assist from 'Expat', got this baby running - you guys will each have an attaboy inserted in your permanent files. My version of Ed's panel is missing a couple of altimeters -
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Yep I used Piglet's pc-7 altimeter at first and it worked and then I changed to the Iris PC-9. Try a couple of the default altimeters like the C208 and maybe the Baron and see how it works. Ed's panel is nice, Expat's glass fix worked great and Milton's flight dynamics added a lot.

Obie311
 
Obie311 said:
Yep I used Piglet's pc-7 altimeter at first and it worked and then I changed to the Iris PC-9. Try a couple of the default altimeters like the C208 and maybe the Baron and see how it works. Ed's panel is nice, Expat's glass fix worked great and Milton's flight dynamics added a lot.
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Have the Carenado C185 altimeter in the hole for now. Is the weather radar (below GPS) supposed to work?
 
I thought I'd bump this to the top. I do like flying this airplane. It almost seems to have a cult status among owners and operators. And I like that it's not just a rich guy's toy. A lot of people earn their living with the Turbo Commander. We seem to have lost our momentum just as we were approaching payware quality. Lots of good things were happening.

I know we had a top "brain trust" with expat, falcon, Milton, fxsttcb, olderthandirt, and paiken involved. My skills are very meager in comparison. Any interest in more FSX tweaks?

Obie311
 
Had I the skills, I'd compile a single download with all files (including an installation readme) necessary for what's been accomplished so far - similar to what's been done for the SOH A26 and the Section F8 Sabre.
 
olderndirt said:
Had I the skills, I'd compile a single download with all files (including an installation readme) necessary for what's been accomplished so far
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I had thought about this earlier but I didn't want to disrespect the fine work of the original Veneaviones group. Since I am new to this hobby I wasn't sure what was appropriate with regard to modifying other people's work even if it is a portover.

I most likely have the skills to compile and zip the files for an upload but I'd want to include the new performance mods Milton is working on and, ideally a little fix for the skylight windows if possible (this is something I personally don't have the skills for). Sort of a "Best of TC690" compilation album.

Obie311
 
Bump.

Obie, a most kind offer by you which should not go unnoticed!

Others here more expert on this than me will hopefully chime in but this should be do-able as the original product is freeware and there are other "updates" e.g. for FSX over at simviation. Don't think the Veneaviones group is still active. The key etiquette is give all other freeware contributors credit/acknowledgement for their work (i.e. leave no doubt no one else is claiming credit for another's work). Problem is, we don't always know or remember who did what. For example, another kind sole somewhere here at the SOH gave me the modified windscreen texture that stops it from appearing solid in FSX but I don't recall who or when this was.
 
Hello Folks,

i have read with interest all you wrote about this excellent bird, but i'm facing a problem with the VC, i have no Altimeter indicator and the upper panel is looking strange/transparent !
Do you have some ideas how to fix these problems ?
@Expat, love your VC, any chance to have your files, s'il vous plait ?
Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
Cheers.

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Think we all had that and some other missing gauges. Pretty simple to swap a different default or - if have them - payware in there by editing the panel.cfg.

You are welcome to my "vc" - which is really Falcon's work with a respray. You will find the textures posted in this thread at post #50. Be warned though that if you are after the appearance in some of my screenshots I have numerous gauges changed and substituted with a few payware ones that make for good eye candy.
 
Firekitten said:
Any thoughts on the translucent overhead? I have the same issue, and its bugging me rotten!
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One of the previous files fixed this for me. I think it was Expat's but I'm not sure. I also stripped out the overhead electrical and starter panel and used it as a pop-up window. Very handy! If you'd like to have it, PM me and I will send you what I've got.

I have been bugged by the little phantom slivers in the skylight windows port and starboard. I PM'ed Milton Shupe and asked if he could do anything to rectify this.

I don't imagine he'd mind me sharing his response with the list:

"I can find no texture in the folder that has the glass and reflections in them. They show up fine in FS9, but not in FSX. I can only assume that these textures were "baked" into the model."

If the Top Guns like Milton, Falcon409, Expat, and Firekitten are baffled by this anomaly, I know it's way beyond me.

The TC690 is versatile bad a$$ turboprop that deserves to be ported to FSX. If any of the Veneaviones group, or anyone else out there can help with this, I'm sure I speak for all of us, we'd appreciate it.

Regards,
Obie
 
I'm a topgun? oh jeez, must work on looking unimportant... they might be low on ammunition...


Seriously though, its a pity if it is model texture, It surprises me, considering its got switches on there... I wonder if its something from the panel folder with a missing gauge or two? I shall investigate further. Its the surround for the whiskey compass too.. may see if its a translucent material issue from fs9, its certainly not linked to the lights like some old fs9 materials. specularity? (not a modeler)


Edit; Right, I had a fiddle... for some reason, this part is mapped wrong... I think its an error when It was put together. the overhead and whiskey compass is mapped to the text_vc4 texture... the glass. Fixing the non transparent glass, makes this transparent too. weird eh?

There is a bmp in the panel folder mapping to the whiskey compass, but it doesn't appear in the model, nothing for the OH, so perhaps missing... Although the whiskey compass background is present, and called for in the panel.cfg, its not appearing... so a farting great bug, that wasn't swatted... and probably never will be :(
 
overhead panel fix

Firekitten, I've modified so much on the TC I'm not absolutely certain but I think it was text_vc04.bmp file in Expat's AC690_FSX_FixItKit (response #64 of this thread) that improved the overhead panel and the whiskey compass surround. I won't say it's perfect but it's a heckuva improvement and it stopped it from getting under my skin. I think even the switches are switchable. Try it and see.

Obie
 
I know somebody will want to smack me, but... is there a package I can download for this (actually curious if someone can tell me which page it's on). I've browsed the thread a bit, but I just want to know where to go. I see lots of updating, but not sure where to get what I'm seeing in the thread. :)

EDIT: I already have this aircraft, but just want to know if there's a package for the improved version you've all been working on. I'd share my buddies' USFS paint he made for it, I'm sure he wouldn't mind. :salute:
 
Obie311 said:
Firekitten, I've modified so much on the TC I'm not absolutely certain but I think it was text_vc04.bmp file in Expat's AC690_FSX_FixItKit (response #64 of this thread) that improved the overhead panel and the whiskey compass surround. I won't say it's perfect but it's a heckuva improvement and it stopped it from getting under my skin. I think even the switches are switchable. Try it and see.

Obie
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Bingo... that looks like the ticket. It was my next step actually.. blow up text_vc4 and fill with colour squares to find out what maps where... this file looks like it does it! perfecto! You're a star Obie!

Btw, I fixed the model material for the windscreen that fixes the vc rain effect blackness.... its the material mapped to this very texture.
 
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