2 Questions about Manfred's birds (C-473 and C-97)

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Gupyzer0

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Hello Everyone my name is Leonel, joined a long time ago but just now I'm "getting hot" again with my flight simming passion.
I have 2 questions about Manfred Jahn's C-47 and the C-97 . . .

About the C-47, I have the V3.14 version and I've seen the status gauge that shows the status of wear on my engines, but after grossly overheating my engines (CHT above 260) and keeping high RPMs my engines status reach 0% I don't see any failure ... Just in case I'm running FsX Steam Edition and have thesettings set on "Hard" if that has something to do with it.

Maybe I'm missing some configuration?

The C-97 question is more simple, I'd like to know which file is actually the latest version of it, theres this "Boeing C-97G / KC-97G Basepack Update 2024-05-13" but also "Boeing C-97 V03" of course i also got "Boeing C-97 Update 2024-05-13" so as you can see I'm a bit lost and Id like to know which one is the latest version ;)
 
Hi and welcome back.

Question 1: Make sure you have 'Engine stress damages engine' active in the 'Engines' section of the 'Settings-Realism' window in FSX as shown below:

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Question 2: When SOH switched to a new server and new forum software last year we had to manually move every file in the old library over to the new library and as such you can no longer use the 'upload date' as an identifier for the latest files because every file was uploaded within a few weeks and in some cases updates were uploaded before the base files. The best thing you can do is to unpack ALL of the C-97 packs to a suitable location and then check file dates for things like model files or aircraft/panel config file creation/modification dates to establish which files were created in which order. Not the best solution but unless Manfred sees this post and can provide better information that is the best suggestion I have.
 
Tako_Kichi said:
Hi and welcome back.

Question 1: Make sure you have 'Engine stress damages engine' active in the 'Engines' section of the 'Settings-Realism' window in FSX as shown below:

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Question 2: When SOH switched to a new server and new forum software last year we had to manually move every file in the old library over to the new library and as such you can no longer use the 'upload date' as an identifier for the latest files because every file was uploaded within a few weeks and in some cases updates were uploaded before the base files. The best thing you can do is to unpack ALL of the C-97 packs to a suitable location and then check file dates for things like model files or aircraft/panel config file creation/modification dates to establish which files were created in which order. Not the best solution but unless Manfred sees this post and can provide better information that is the best suggestion I have.
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Copy on the C-97 I'll have to try all them.

About the C-47 . . .
Well I've got the Engine stress damages engine option selected, still no failure with the C-47 :/ here's a screenshot

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Also, my settings
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How are you testing for engine failure? Are you taking off with balls to the wall and just leaving them there? I remember doing that on MJ's C-47 and
having the engines burst into flames and fell out of the sky.
 
MrZippy said:
How are you testing for engine failure? Are you taking off with balls to the wall and just leaving them there? I remember doing that on MJ's C-47 and
having the engines burst into flames and fell out of the sky.
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Yep, that's pretty much it, high MP and props full rpm. In my screenshot you can see MP going into the green again because I climbed a bit afterwards but you can see in the monitor gauge that the wear leaved the engines at 0% in red numbers.

Afterwards I even using a lean mixture with closed cowl flaps and I see my CHT going red and staying there for minutes with no failure whatsoever.
 
This was my C-47 engine burn test shot before it fell like a rock! Maybe uncheck (allow collisions with other aircraft).
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Tried without the collision with other airplanes option, still the same, no failures :/ even running very hot lol

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Hello everyone, I just needed a bit more patience! but also I ran FsX as administrator just in case, the thing is ...

Oh yeahh! or Oh nooo!? we've got fire! so it's working as it should ... Thank you MrZippy and Tako_Kichi for your kind support!

Guess I just needed to wait a bit more for the fireworks ;) well, time to some C-47 'ing around.

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Gupyzer0 said:
Hello everyone, I just needed a bit more patience! but also I ran FsX as administrator just in case, the thing is ...

Oh yeahh! or Oh nooo!? we've got fire! so it's working as it should ... Thank you MrZippy and Tako_Kichi for your kind support!

Guess I just needed to wait a bit more for the fireworks ;) well, time to some C-47 'ing around.

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Hi,

I notice your cowl flaps are not open ('0' setting on the Monitor panel in the screenshot). You need to open the cowl flaps during take off, particularly if throttles are to the wall, or your engines will seriously overheat. Then you can usually start to close the cowl flaps a little as you throttle back during climb and your speed increases and the outside air temperature decreases with altitude but you need to monitor the cylinder head temperature (CHT) at all times during this phase. Once the aircraft is extablished in level cruise then you can usually close the cowl flaps completely.

Bill
 
Tako_Kichi said:
There are a lot of great C-47 repaints in our library too if you are interested.

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I'll get some for sure, thanks!

Scianoir said:
Hi,

I notice your cowl flaps are not open ('0' setting on the Monitor panel in the screenshot). You need to open the cowl flaps during take off, particularly if throttles are to the wall, or your engines will seriously overheat. Then you can usually start to close the cowl flaps a little as you throttle back during climb and your speed increases and the outside air temperature decreases with altitude but you need to monitor the cylinder head temperature (CHT) at all times during this phase. Once the aircraft is extablished in level cruise then you can usually close the cowl flaps completely.

Bill
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Hi Bill, don't you worry, I was actually trying to blew the engines up, I was testing that feature and I knew that closing the cowl flaps was the first step to getting everything hot hot hot! Anyways thanks for the headsup :cool:(y)
 
Gupyzer0 said:
I'll get some for sure, thanks!


Hi Bill, don't you worry, I was actually trying to blew the engines up, I was testing that feature and I knew that closing the cowl flaps was the first step to getting everything hot hot hot! Anyways thanks for the headsup :cool:(y)
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Hi Leonel, clearly I should have read your first post more carefully!! Have fun blowing it up!

Bill
 
@Gupyzer0

It is me the same Aharon from the other forums that are British themed. Glad to see you enjoying the new Jahn model base with voice feature that I recommended to you. Remember there is NO oxygen in that plane and NO pressurization so keep the DC-3/C-47 at 10,000 ft or below. Smiling

Regards,

Aharon
 
Aharon said:
@Gupyzer0

It is me the same Aharon from the other forums that are British themed. Glad to see you enjoying the new Jahn model base with voice feature that I recommended to you. Remember there is NO oxygen in that plane and NO pressurization so keep the DC-3/C-47 at 10,000 ft or below. Smiling

Regards,

Aharon
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Yup, that's right, reading the forums over there gave me the idea to try out Manfred's & Co. DC-3 and it's very very good, a masterpiece no doubt.
 
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