9/11 conspiracy theroist goes nuts ...

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Nah, there is a difference ...

Being a nut is a hell of a lot different than going nuts.
 
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Snuffy said:
Nah, there is a difference ...

Being a nut is a hell of a lot different than going nuts.
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I'm not sure that's true. You have to be insane before doing some act that is insane!

My view is that anyone who believes in the 9-11 conspiracy theories are either sane people trying to make the cheapest of buck, or truly insane people who are being exploited for profit by those who play the issues up for money.

This individual was tragically insane. I just hope all the one's doing it for money (not because they believe the crap they put forth) might take a second to consider what their efforts helped achieve!

I feel sorry for people who walk the earth with their heads filled with such nonsense, especially when it leads to such anger and evil.

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I think what he meant was that there's a significant difference for society between someone who lives a benign life of quiet psychosis and delusion and someone who's insanity explodes into violence. There are plenty of both out there.
 
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From the OP's linked report, regarding the shooter's "bad feelings"
towards government & military regarding the 9-11 demolitions:

"Keevill said Friday that authorities had not made "a final determination" that the writer was the same as the suspect."
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Ken writes:

"My view is that anyone who believes in the 9-11 conspiracy theories are either sane people trying to make the cheapest of buck, or truly insane people who are being exploited for profit by those who play the issues up for money."

Hardly, friend. Pictures speak thousands of words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atSd7mxgsGY&feature=related

WTC 1, WTC 2 & later (at 5:25 p.m.) WTC 7 all fell at virtually the speed of gravity.
FEMA was deployed to NYC the day before. Did you know that?

The bulk of our fighter forces were deployed to Alaska & Canada beforehand to
participate in huge wargames, leaving us wide open. Did you know that?

No modern steel framed building has ever totally "collapsed" from fire except 3 of them.
They all happened that day in the same place.

It takes days to set up demolitions charges correctly to bring down a building.
They admitted that day that Building 7 would have to be "pulled" because it was unsafe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0GW6QXKyp0&feature=related

Molten steel was continuing to be found no less than 5 weeks later in the basements of WTC towers 1, 2 & 7.

The biggest body parts found of those that still in towers 1 & 2 were sliver-sized with almost no exceptions.

Virtually all of the concrete was pulverized, not broken.

Those buildings were built like no others, designed to take two impacts each of aircraft that size.

The tower fires were smoking black before coming down, the sign of relatively cool-burning fires
& not nearly the temperatures to so much as weaken ASTM E119 grade steel columns. That requires
temperatures of well over 2500 degrees F to weaken, 3000 degrees F to melt.

Could go on & on for days, friends, of all that has been documented (not just asserted) of the tragedies of that day.


Have still got many, many questions, all of which the prior administration assured us would all be answered. They never have been... & this has spawned every kind of wild conspiracy theory out there, so many nut-cases. I am quite sane, not after making a "cheap buck" or seeking attention for myself. Will gladly share with you what I am, though...

I am an American fighting man. I am prepared to give my life.
I will support & defend the Constitution of the United States of America
against ALL enemies, foreign & domestic. I am a patriot.​


We were all warned long ago by this great man.​

Stop being spoon-fed your information, your beliefs, your division. Think for yourselves.​

At the very least, the attacks were allowed to happen. At the very least.​

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May God help us all.
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So long as all remains respectful, what need is there to shut down this thread?

If it is truly foreseen that this thread will get out of hand then, by all means, please lock it down now, Moderators...
but I respectfully ask that the thread remain & not be removed, as all I posted is documented. Thanks.
 
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So long as all remains respectful, what need is there to shut down this thread?

If it is truly foreseen that this thread will get out of hand then, by all means, please lock it down now, Moderators...
but I respectfully ask that the thread remain & not be removed, as all I posted is documented. Thanks.
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Historically (I can think of 2 instances), SOH and 9/11 conspiracy theories don't go well together. Too many hotheads...
 
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Hello,

Regardless of what your opinions are, remember to keep this thread civil and avoid all personal attacks. If you want to make this thread political, there's always the Quarter Moon Saloon....
 
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Then based on history, djscoo, am sensing you are correct in having this thread locked.
And good thoughts, Rami, thanks.

Apologies, Snuffy. You are a patriot too, albeit we have differing views, sir.

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One more respectful thought, towards Ken:
You assert, "I feel sorry for people who walk the earth with their heads filled with such nonsense, especially when it leads to such anger and evil."
I am offering the thought that that is because the angry & evil ones are the only ones people hear about. Myself, my heart is still breaking.
 
I know soldiers who were stationed at Ft Myer, in Washington DC (Virginia) when the Pentagon was attacked. Do you know how many "open your eyes, man" clowns I've had to tell that I know people people who not only saw the plane, but had to go pick up body parts, aircraft parts and children's luggage? (I know you didn't mention the pentagon, I was just making a point)

If steel doesn't melt, then how do they make it? Look up the Macarthur maze tanker fire, Boxcar. It'll show that all those 'sount bites' are just that, 'sound bites' that keep getting repeated but aren't true. Steel structures melt and collapse all the time.

Here's another one. "Saddam never had WMD's, man". Oh yeah? What'd he do to the kurds then?


cheers to you for being able to state your opinion without throwing it in everyone's face. :medals:That's how 9/11 stuff goes way downhill fast.
 
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tigisfat said:
I know soldiers who were stationed at Ft Myer, in Washington DC (Virginia) when the Pentagon was attacked. Do you know how many "open your eyes, man" clowns I've had to tell that I know people people who not only saw the plane, but had to go pick up body parts, aircraft parts and children's luggage? (I know you didn't mention the pentagon, I was just making a point)
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Am taking the point. Name-calling, it would seem to me. Could discuss the Pentagon for hours, as it was my specialized area of researching.

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tigisfat said:
If steel doesn't melt, then how do they make it? Look up the Macarthur maze tanker fire, Boxcar. It'll show that all those 'sount bites' are just that, 'sound bites' that keep getting repeated but aren't true. Steel structures melt and collapse all the time.
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Of course steel melts... just not at the temperatures of those fires, not that grade of steel or any steel for that matter. Nor does steel remain molten in the basements no less than 5 weeks later. Your assertions have no basis in reality regarding the "collapsing" of modern steel buildings, especially of the grade of steel that the WTC towers were made of.

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Here's another one. "Saddam never had WMD's, man". Oh yeah? What'd he do to the kurds then?
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Of course he had them. And certainly the Kurds know this more than most. Saddam did not have them when we went in. Big difference.


tigisfat said:
cheers to you for being able to state your opinion without throwing it in everyone's face. :medals:That's how 9/11 stuff goes way downhill fast.
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Agreed. I love our country, ladies & gentlemen. I would gladly lay down my life to protect & defend her. Just please consider that not all dissenters are non-patriots or clowns or nutcases. Respectful dissent & asking legitimate questions are all part of a free & noble society.

Go inside that day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfce_C8GzdE
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before one can even begin to discuss the anomalies, one thing has to be understood clearly.
that thing is, in order for 9/11 to be a conspiracy, hundreds maybe even a thousand people or more would have to keep a whole lotta secrets. no way in this world. it's just not reality. i can see a small handful of people keeping big secrets. but hundreds? it's impossible.
 
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Thanks, cheezyflier. My response is the Manhatten Project, over 130,000 people worked on the project... & it never leaked.

Now days, military applications are so highly compartmentalized that only a few handfuls of people know the big picture of any project, even though tens of thousands work on them. Need to know basis. Even naval commanders of cruise missile frigates have no idea whatsoever of their targets. They simple feed in the data received.
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