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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

    Post 17 Warning

An old project brought up to date: Canso PBY-5 of SAGQ

Brian_Gladden said:
under manual control, the nose wanders all over the place and I have auto rudder on in my settings
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I recommend switching off the auto-rudder, it causes nothing but problems like these both in the air and on the ground. Also, check that your sim settings Flight Model is set to Modern and not Legacy - that Legacy setting causes all the same kind of problems.
 
Coming back to the spray issues, I checked again (in 2024), with both the military ànd the Calypso models, and a completely empty community folder, and I have no spray whatsoever, and the wake for the fuselage starts relatively late, and later than the wake for the floats. So if it is a conflict with another aircraft, it must be one of the default aircraft. I also chacked some of the default aircraft and they all have spray, in varying degrees. The goose has lots:
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while for instance the Beaver has a lot less, so the amount of spray is variable apparently:
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But the Catalina has no spray, just a wake, (that actually only starts a while after you touch down, so not immediately):
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Another strange thing, with the gear extended, it sort of stands on the water:

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and only sinks into the water when you retract the gear. (BTW, the wheels do turn when moving in the water.) The other models I checked (Beaver, Goose, Albatross) do not do this, they sink immediately.
When the floats are not lowered, the aircraft acts as if they are lowered:
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so it will not touch the water with its wingtips. If you lower the floats, the aircraft will remain in the same position, and I do feel the floats may be a bit deep in the water?
Note this is all in 2024, but I don't remeber any spray in 2020 either. It would be great if it showed spray like the goose!
 
Jankees,

I have read your post and I only retain one point: the fact that the plane exits the water when the landing gear is out.

A) Regarding the lack of effects, I have already replied several times and I even reread the 19 pages of this topic to be able to respond correctly:
- post #77 in August two pics from me with effets under FS20 and FS24 (I have always the two sim on my disk)
- post #162 by Flusimmer (24th Oct.)
- post #163 by Dvj
- post #173 by Hollister56 with FS24 (25th Oct.)
- post #176 by Brian Gladden with FS20 (25th Oct.)
- post #225 by Dvj who has a problem under FS24 and v0.9.3
- post 230 by me under FS20 and v0.9.3
Effects are provided by three sources: default aircraft, Marketplace addons and Community.
I studied how the waves were managed in the Goose de BigRadials, the Microsoft Latécoère and the DHC-2 but I don’t have the Albatross.
Perhaps a survey should be conducted to know who has or does not have the waves and especially if they have FS20, FS24 or both installed.

B) I will try to find a solution but I don't know where is the problem.

C) The third point addressed is in fact a purely physical problem. It is a relatively heavy aircraft with the 2 tanks and engines located closest to the center of gravity. The parasol wing is very wide and plays the role of a balancer like an acrobat walking on a wire: it’s simply physical, the force generated by the weight of the right wing counterbalances perfectly that generated by the left wing.
If I remember well, on version 0.8 the plane was much less stable and in October I received from Tim or Ed a new flight_model.cfg which modified the contact points and particularly those on both sides of the fuselage at the water level, these contact points had been far from the plane and as a result they increased the balance effect and therefore the stability on the water of the plane.

I even searched on the Internet for several videos of the PBY, notably the gatherings on Biscarosse, and we can clearly see that once on the water the plane is very stable, the flotors are practically not used because they graze the surface of the water. In fact, I think they only serve to prevent the wing from touching the surface of the water in case of a bad action by the pilot because in this case, the plane does a spinning wheel and it’s the sure crash.



I didn’t want to release it so quickly but here is my latest working version v0.9.6d:

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The download link:

Dropbox

www.dropbox.com www.dropbox.com
 
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