Another USN Bird Neglected in Flight Sim

Milton Shupe · Dec 17, 2010

Before this, I was not familiar with these aircraft. I am studying the differences and hopefully, if we do this project (meaning SOH Team-anyone wanting to contribute), I would like to do the C-1A, the S2F-3, and E1-B, simple variants, but not all. It's more complicated and too much like a career to do all of them. Major differences are the fuselage length, the tail, wing tips, and belly bulge, I think. :wiggle:

Stratobat · Dec 18, 2010

The VS-21 at NAS Oakland and Bicentennial markings look interesting

Regards,
Stratobat

hawkeye52 · Dec 18, 2010

I found the drawings for the S2F-3 but I see you already have some. I have similar drawings for the Willie Fudd and I have attached a couple of preview scans so you can see if they are what you need. The drawing itself is 14" x 18½". - H52

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Milton Shupe · Dec 18, 2010

hawkeye52 said:
I found the drawings for the S2F-3 but I see you already have some. I have similar drawings for the Willie Fudd and I have attached a couple of preview scans so you can see if they are what you need. The drawing itself is 14" x 18½". - H52

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I would love to have your drawings h52, they are good quality and size. Thank you so much. :jump:

hawkeye52 · Dec 18, 2010

MS, PM me a mailing address.

-H52

Milton Shupe · Dec 18, 2010

Willy said:
Milton, you do realize that if you do a C-1 Trader, I'll have to bring my paint brushes out of retirement.

Really? {{{{{ snicker }}}} You might wanna start looking for them ....

Milton Shupe · Dec 18, 2010

Explain This Picture ???

Appears to be landing configuration but why are all the radio/radar "appendages" extended? Is this just for a photo shoot to show its stuff?

Richard Westcott · Dec 18, 2010

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Some nice close up shots, looks like a conversion of tracer to trader.

http://www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/QuonsetAirMuseum/GrummanC1ATrader/index.htm

Another nice shot

http://www.flickr.com/photos/95172890@N00/3943276360/

A Jamming EC1A Trader?

http://www.modellversium.de/kit/bilder/5/0/6/506-deckel.jpg

Apologies if some of the info is duplicated on previous posts

CP1207 · Dec 18, 2010

If you need any specific shots, I can take pics of this bird...

https://sites.google.com/a/mapsairmuseum.org/s2-f/

Milton Shupe · Dec 18, 2010

Richard Westcott said:
View attachment 25778

Some nice close up shots, looks like a conversion of tracer to trader.

http://www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/QuonsetAirMuseum/GrummanC1ATrader/index.htm

Another nice shot

http://www.flickr.com/photos/95172890@N00/3943276360/

A Jamming EC1A Trader?

http://www.modellversium.de/kit/bilder/5/0/6/506-deckel.jpg

Apologies if some of the info is duplicated on previous posts

Thank you Richard; these are always helpful. Great stuff! :wavey:

CP1207 said:
If you need any specific shots, I can take pics of this bird...

https://sites.google.com/a/mapsairmuseum.org/s2-f/

I appreciate your offer and your efforts; thank you sir :applause:

Richard Westcott · Dec 18, 2010

Explain This Picture ???

It looks like an airshow photo to me, most airshows I have been to in the UK aircraft will do low and slow passes with everything hanging down!

Milton Shupe · Dec 18, 2010

Richard Westcott said:
It looks like an airshow photo to me, most airshows I have been to in the UK aircraft will do low and slow passes with everything hanging down!

Well, that would certainly explain it. Thanks :wavey:

Daveroo · Dec 18, 2010

ok..i admit i hadnt looked at the whole thread as its in the FS9 area,but will you make this a portover to FSX aswell? and im assuming yer only making the "round engine" version...but any chance you can include the old california department of forestry and fire fighting CDF versions?...i love the S2T.....but those old radials are still in my ears...first the F7F memories and then the S2F and now the S2T in real life....i love it here....we even had B17s and a P61 for awhile

Milton Shupe · Dec 18, 2010

Daveroo said:
ok..i admit i hadnt looked at the whole thread as its in the FS9 area,but will you make this a portover to FSX aswell? and im assuming yer only making the "round engine" version...but any chance you can include the old california department of forestry and fire fighting CDF versions?...i love the S2T.....but those old radials are still in my ears...first the F7F memories and then the S2F and now the S2T in real life....i love it here....we even had B17s and a P61 for awhile

Anything I do will work as a port over in FSX. If I do this, then you will have a port over available. As to the "T" version added to the list of C1, S2F, and E1-B, that's asking for alot as alot of changes including the nacelles, props, and all new flight model would be required. :kilroy:

Whatever I do (if anything), I will make the gmax source available to anyone who wants it. :wiggle:

jinx · Dec 18, 2010

Very interesting thread. I did not know about that Fudd and will get it soon. The Hawkeye information is also useful.

Many thanks

mgr · Dec 18, 2010

Hi Milton,

Milton Shupe said:
Appears to be landing configuration but why are all the radio/radar "appendages" extended? Is this just for a photo shoot to show its stuff?

-> http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004scen&DLID=120926

Milton Shupe · Dec 18, 2010

Marcel, thank you for the research. As usual, you keep providing excellent details. :jump:

Daveroo · Dec 19, 2010

Milton Shupe said:
Anything I do will work as a port over in FSX. If I do this, then you will have a port over available. As to the "T" version added to the list of C1, S2F, and E1-B, that's asking for alot as alot of changes including the nacelles, props, and all new flight model would be required.

Whatever I do (if anything), I will make the gmax source available to anyone who wants it.

no no milton...love ya ...but i ment the radial powered version of the s2 tanker..they were this god awfull green color,like the high vis lime green fire engines or something....im colorblind so i really dont know what it was....it was ugly though cdf tankers of the 80s-early 90s....

edit....they were S2A's and used until the S2T was brought online

Milton Shupe · Dec 19, 2010

Daveroo said:
no no milton...love ya ...but i ment the radial powered version of the s2 tanker..they were this god awfull green color,like the high vis lime green fire engines or something....im colorblind so i really dont know what it was....it was ugly though cdf tankers of the 80s-early 90s....

edit....they were S2A's and used until the S2T was brought online

I would think that that a slightly modified C-1A or S2F-3 would work for that; same fuselage length, wings, and tail configuration as best as I know right now. Someone else might be able to help with the differences. Depends on which S2F-3 we may do. One has the straight belly lines, the C-1A has the bulged belly lines. There were at least 5 different nacelle tails used. The attachment shows the S-2A hawk? nacelle tail whereas your picture shows the later mod.

Milton Shupe · Dec 19, 2010

Daveroo,

That also may be the TS-2A as shown here

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