Anyone up for a Halifax ?

[Deano]

ahh now it makes sense

So now your saying stay away from the Halifax like scott said on a few additionals that he never told me about after I told him what we was honestly working on.

 

[Lewis-A2A]

And I believe A2A and RealFlight have a good relationship falcon and we are both British so as it States in Queens rules we must be good at complaining, and werever possible Queue for stuff

 

[Deano]

we did until someone was dishonest kind of slapping someone in the face so to speak.

One thing I am and thats straight upfront, logical and honest, I guess it will be the death of me.

and no I wont disclose the phone conversation on the aircraft topics

 

[Roger]

As a spot view flyer I would balk at an Accusim Halibag. I wouldn't be able to fly it and watch it at the same time. Single engine damage management I can just about cope with but four engine.....too much like hard work and it would stay in the hangar like the Stratocruiser.

 

[Deano]

I wish it was the case for me Roger, but I get the jaggys I guess Im a good candidate for testing frame rates

Anyone need a beta tester ?

 

[Lewis-A2A]

Nah Roger it wouldnt be Accu-sim if we did one so no worries there, though the cockpit layout is really cool and would be great candidate for a full on simulation.

Dean any worries PM me fella, if I can ill help you out where I can.

 

[krazycolin]

we did until someone was dishonest kind of slapping someone in the face so to speak.

One thing I am and thats straight upfront, logical and honest, I guess it will be the death of me.

and no I wont disclose the phone conversation on the aircraft topics

I'm seriously curious as to who exactly was dishonest...

No, really...

 

[calypsos]

Your great uncle seems to have been missed by history.

The fact he was a rear gunner in Halifaxes is quite plausable and not in doubt at all, probably within 100 Group. However (and I know family history can change things) to be a Field Marshal (after WW2) he would have had to have left the RAF, joined the army after 1945 and risen to become the top military man in the UK (Chief of the Defence staff) and then retired, as there are no serving Field Marshals in the British army...except possibly Prince Phillip!!!

If he became a pilot, he could have risen to 'Air Rank' that is to say an Air Marshal, but no air gunner ever reached that exalted position in the RAF. The highest ever (and he started as an officer) was a Group Captain in 1945.

Maybe some family history investigation is required.

Oh, I vote for a Halifax too, and a Stirling for that matter in FSX.

 

[guzler]

Halifax for me toooooooo.

Now stop talking and go n make it

 

[stiz]

oooooo someone mention halifax??

 

[AussieMan]

I vote for the Halifax as well. But not let's forget that there are 2 versions of the Halifax. One had, I believe, Bristol Centarus engines and the other had RR Merlins.

Also a Stirling would be great as it seems to be the forgotten aircraft of WWII.

Cheers
Pat

 

[stiz]

I vote for the Halifax as well. But not let's forget that there are 2 versions of the Halifax.

more than 2

you had

B.1 - Early with nose turret, merlin engines and triangle fins, no top turret
B.2 - Nose turret removed, merline engines and triangle fins, hudson type top turret/BP turret (but not always)
MKII Srs 1.A - full glass nose, merlin engines, square fins, top turret as standard, h2s scanner (fairing on belly)
MKII - glass nose, hercules engines, square fins, top turret, h2s scanner

thats exludeing all the different versions of said engines, the glider tugs with 4 bladed props, paratrop versions, SOE versions, radar versions, post war civi and cargo etc

 

[Lionheart]

more than 2

you had

B.1 - Early with nose turret, merlin engines and triangle fins, no top turret
B.2 - Nose turret removed, merline engines and triangle fins, hudson type top turret/BP turret (but not always)
MKII Srs 1.A - full glass nose, merlin engines, square fins, top turret as standard, h2s scanner (fairing on belly)
MKII - glass nose, hercules engines, square fins, top turret, h2s scanner

thats exludeing all the different versions of said engines, the glider tugs with 4 bladed props, paratrop versions, SOE versions, radar versions, post war civi and cargo etc

My goodness man! You are a Halifax Historian! lol... How many dang versions can they have of one single line of planes?

A very flexible airframe.. or rather, diverse.


Bill

 

[IanP]

Good grief, no Mk.X? I thought all British WW2 aircraft had to have at least ten variations with five engine choices, depending on availability, before 1945. :d

Seriously, a non-Accusim Halifax and/or Sterling would be a lot more use to me than a fully fledged complex panel version. Unfortunately, those of us who would be happy with that will always shout a lot less loudly than those who want - and in some cases around the internet (thankfully rarely here) absolutely demand that everything be absolutely top quality, then complain about the price that has to be charged as a result.

Slightly off topic, but I still really wish there was someone doing <£20 "old Alphasim" style models which were brilliant for AI, great for casual users and most warbird fans while the die-hard systems fans could just say they weren't what they wanted and bypass them.

 

[guzler]

I just like to get in the plane and fly around. I would get bored pressing lots of buttons and making adjustments to get an engine started. For me, great visuals and a quite realistic flight model keep me happy. A2A have it right, you can get Accusim or not, the choice is with the customer. I bought the P47 and B377 without Accumsim and find them to be about as complex as I would want to go. They're gorgeous planes and I can only praise A2A for creating aircraft that should appeal to both ends of the market.

 

[Deano]

On a personal note, Stiz.. Honestly I wish you well with the Halifax I'll be buying it and will stand down from working on it.

I'm seriously curious as to who exactly was dishonest...

No, really...

Why would you want to bring this up again?

The conversation was in private and wont be repeated to anyone.

please leave the off topics as they were, no need to get the anger levels running again.

 

[Deano]

Hi Calypso,

Your prolly right regarding the ranking structure, the rank I gave was a guestimate :isadizzy: The only thing my grandad told me that he flew mainly Hali missions and then a few Lanc missions, survived and then stayed on to be in charge of the airfield, maybe something along the lines of an Army RSM of somekind.

I really do need to get hold of his notes from the yester years as its intrigued me for sometime now.

You seem to know a far bit on the history, is there a place I can search his name (Kenneth Gilmore Greasley)

Your great uncle seems to have been missed by history.

The fact he was a rear gunner in Halifaxes is quite plausable and not in doubt at all, probably within 100 Group. However (and I know family history can change things) to be a Field Marshal (after WW2) he would have had to have left the RAF, joined the army after 1945 and risen to become the top military man in the UK (Chief of the Defence staff) and then retired, as there are no serving Field Marshals in the British army...except possibly Prince Phillip!!!

If he became a pilot, he could have risen to 'Air Rank' that is to say an Air Marshal, but no air gunner ever reached that exalted position in the RAF. The highest ever (and he started as an officer) was a Group Captain in 1945.

Maybe some family history investigation is required.

Oh, I vote for a Halifax too, and a Stirling for that matter in FSX.

 

[IanP]

You might find this link (PDF) useful if you want to find out more, Deano:

http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/documents/e-Info Sheet 2 RAF personnel.pdf

 

[Deano]

Thanks Ian looking through it now.

 

[TheOptimist]

Coincidentally they have one of the remaining few Halifax bombers at FAR museum Duxford. It's in a pretty sorry state though.