Attention all DC-3 fans !

[Javis]

Nor are we Jan

Thanks, Milton !

Sorry to hear this Jan. Sounds similar to Piglet's disappearance from the FS world and personally, I worry the worst in such cases.
Perhaps someone might take up the task of resurrecting the gauge coding at some point or find a "drop-in" solution for the gauges.

Already in motion 'behind the scene', Storm..

Thanks, mate!

 

[BendyFlyer]

Javis thanks for the update. I had some contact with Hansi over a year ago re some other gauges that I was using for a rework of Jens Kristensens (JBK) Hythe into a Sunderland. That was fine but I have had no contact with him since then either. I found some replacement gauges but have had to go through the torturous process of getting copyright permission from the owners and in one case copyright has passed between several companies in the meantime. I had a look at guage programming but to get the 3D facings etc is a real skill and well beyond my limited cut and paste understanding and code reading. I have not heard from Jens either despited attempts to get his blessing or permission for the Sunderland the main reason was so see if the cockpit mesh could be reworked.

We can only hope, people of his and Jens talent have made an unrecognised but very significant contribution to flight simulation over the years.

PS off thread I could release the Sunderland as is but well I would like it to be a lot better but sometimes you just have to call it quits I guess.

 

[manfredc3]

Thanks for the update Jan,

Even though I don't know Hansi, I do hope that he is okay.

And I do hope you find a way to keep the VVC project going (yes, that's selfish, sorry). You invested so much time and effort in to this project, and even coming out of retirement, that it would be a shame if it would die.

I will keep my fingers crossed, and my thoughts with Hansi.

 

[manfredc3]

we do a lot of dc3 multiplayer here,chanel old fokkers
check at sundays,also most other days.............
most after 19.00 z
http://digitalthemepark.blogspot.de/

cheers ralf

Sorry Ralf,

I just now saw your post. I'll certainly have a look at that link, as Suinday's will work for me for sure.

Thanks for the link. I really appreciate all responses, so that I van start taking my favorite old lady back in to multiplayer flying.

 

[Adrian Petford]

Thanks for the update Jan. Sad news, but I'm sure everyone's thoughts are not on the VVC but hoping Hansi is OK.

 

[banjoman1960]

I think the time has come to tell you the reason of the long silence on any news about the development of the VVC. Up front, it's pretty bad news so fasten your seatbelts...

I have been holding off to tell you about it because of the chance it wouldn't be needed to tell you about it.... May sound funny but if you read on you'll understand it makes sense.

The situation is that i haven't heard from Hansi anymore since the end of March.... In his last email he added final versions of the MAP and RPM gauges and some coding. He promised that his next work would come much faster but i did not recieve anything from him anymore since then... He also did not respond to the emails i sent him asking about what the reason could be of his silence.

Hansi has been going thru a rough time last year due to family matters but when i contacted him about working with me again on Manfred's amazing DC-3 model he said to be very pleased and happy about it. Like myself he is a true DC-3 lover. He even bought a new computer but he did make it clear that it would probabely take much longer than before for him to send his work to me.

I have worked with Hansi for more then 10 years and never ever did he not respond to my emails. (our first project together dates back to FS2002, a 2D Captain's panel and FE panel for the Constellation which Hansi later upgraded to work with FS9. Both John Howard White and Manfred used the panels for their superb Constellation models. Later on we created the SectionF8 F-86 model for FS9 which features some of Hansi's superb coding which can also be admired in the beautiful DC-2 Uiver model. Hansi was also doing the coding and gauges for the Maam-Sim NAF N3N and FSX version of the TBM/TBF Avenger)

Everyday since the month of May i have been hoping to hear from Hansi, sending me more stuff to add to the VVC and every week/month i got more worried that something might be seriously wrong. At one time i even decided to stop working on the VVC myself because, as you can imagine, without Hansi to do the gauges and coding there simply is no use.

So here we are, gentlemen, no Hansi, no DC-3 VVC..... I simply can't do this on my own. I have no knowledge of gauge programming.

I have a hunge that what's happening with Hansi might be the same as last year, he doesn't even touch his computer anymore.... That's the only reason i can think of him not responding to my emails. Mind you, even now, after so many months not hearing from him i still have hope left that he will turn up again. The best advice i can give you is to do the same.

Extremely sorry to have to bring this bad news to you and i hope you can understand the reason i tried to hold off telling you about it. Even if i heard from Hansi today i wouldn't have told you about it... More than anything i wish that would've been the case...

sad news,sorry to read this,i hope he is ok..........

is there a way to use the cocpit from the first version of the c47?

or maybee standart gauges for your new vc,it will be a lot better than that basler vc?

thank´s for your work,i hope it get not lost!

cheers
ralf

 

[huub vink]

That is sad news Jan. It is one of the not so nice things of internet. Years ago I lost contact with Michel Migaud in a similar way, so I think I understand how you must feel.
When I decided to help Dutchcheeseblend with his Fokker D-XXI project, one of the first things we did was exchange phone numbers and addresses.

I really hope Hansi will surface in the near future.

Cheers,
Huub

 

[Bjoern]

I'm afraid, apart from RPM and MAP, *all* of them, Bjoern... And it's not just the coding, Hansi always wants to draw the gauges' faceplates himself. He's very very good at that too ! They would've been all in 3D, with reflective glass covers.

Aww dang. No time here for doing all of them with gauge faces.

 

[Portia911]

Like Banjoman, I'd like to know how to get the v1 (1940s era) cockpit in the v2 C47. Any suggestions?
thanks

 

[William Njurmi]

Why not use the Fs9 DC-3 gauges? It had classic gauges if I remember right?

 

[mjahn]

Or indeed why not use the C-47 v1, which has the default DC-3 cockpit.

 

[huub vink]

As I prefer to fly with the classic cockpit I have both versions installed. The texture layout is slightly different and some small part ore in a different position. But the V2 textures fit on the V1 version without any real problems. The textures for the V1 version might not fit as there is a small change in the nose of the model. The main reason I have the V2 version installed is to simply to test textures.

Cheers,
Huub

 

[Portia911]

Ok, I didn't realise the v2 skins would work on the v1. Only asked because I thought it better to have the newer release (+ sound pack, skins, flight dynamics etc) - certainly there are more repaints for v2.

. . . and thanks again to you, Manfred for the wonderful C47 - all versions, all models. It is a gem!

 

[banjoman1960]

Or indeed why not use the C-47 v1, which has the default DC-3 cockpit.

because i like the other stuff,wat v1 not have,the endine failture,the sound,the startup.......only not like the basler vc.
so at moment i did not use this great plane,have wait for the new vc.......but now,i think i must find a way to get the old c47v1 vc work in the c47v2,so is this posible?

thank´s

cheers ralf

 

[vonstroheim]

How to merge V1 cockpit with V2 exterior

Sorry to hear the sad news. I hope Jan won't mind too much if I post this recipe to merge V1 cockpit with V2 exterior.

The ingredients:
C-47 Skytrain V2 by Manfred Jahn, Alexander M. Metzger, Hansjoerg Naegele, Ted Wolfgang (here at SOH)
C-47 Skytrain Interior Model Tweak (with correct wing view) by Manfred Jahn and Marvin Carter: c47_interior.zip @ flightsim

Optional ingredients:
DC-3 Widescreen 2D Panel by Luiz Alvarenga: ws2d-panel-dc-3.zip @ flightsim
DC-3 New Virtual Cockpit Textures by Hani Michal: fsx_dc-3_new_vc.zip @ flightsim

The recipe:

In folder "model.C47_1", my model.cfg file looks like this:

[models]
normal=C47R_1
interior=C47_interior

For "model.C47_2" replace C47R_1 by C47R_2

My texture.cfg files look like this, adjust as you like ("Clean" instead of "Weathered" for example):

[fltsim]
fallback.1=..\Texture
fallback.2=..\Texture.Weathered
fallback.3=..\..\Douglas_DC3\texture
fallback.4=..\..\..\..\Texture
fallback.5=..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\texture

In each texture folder, or in the shared "texture" folder, drop your favorite Hani Michal's cockpit textures (Douglas_DC3_1_C.dds & Douglas_DC3_2_C.dds), but keep the fallback.3 to the default DC-3 for the necessary additionnal VC textures (overhead and such).

For the panel, it's basicaly the default DC-3 version (regular 4:3 or Luiz Alvarenga's widescreen 16:9 version). I'm pretty sure all of you have 16:9 or 16:10 monitors, so why live with oval gauges? Luiz widescreen panels are great (he did a very nice 737 too).

For this C-47 v1/v2 mix to work, move to your C-47 panel folder the Douglas_C47.dll and C47.CAB gauge files (from Manfred's C-47 V2), you need also panel.cfg, Douglas_DC3.cab, Panel_Decals_DC3_1.bmp & Panel_Decals_DC3_2.bmp from the default DC-3, and DC3_background.bmp & DC3_background_night.bmp from Luiz's panel, or from default DC-3 if you really insist on keeping the 4:3 panel. Then add these 2 lines in the "Vcockpit01" section of panel.cfg:

gauge30=C47!Sim_C47,		0,1,1,1
gauge31=Douglas_C47!Main,	1,0,1,1

Not sure what these 2 lines do, but you won't be able to start the C-47 without "C47!Sim_C47". I really don't know if "Douglas_C47!Main" is necessary. My C-47 works better without it.

Adjust eyepoint in aircraft.cfg: eyepoint = -7.0, -1.4, 3.26

Et voilà!

I may have missed something, but with a bit of D.I.Y. you'll sort it out...

 

[Portia911]

Thank you, vonstroheim - this is just what I was hoping for. Will try this tonight.

 

[robcap]

Hi Jan,

That is all sad news. I hope Hansi is OK. And/or his family.
Did you work forward on the modeling and texturing?
Then you have to pick up on animation after that. Or ask Tim to work on the gauge and glass textures, if he has time.
I'm sure when Hansi get's back in toch, the coding for the animation can easily be implemented in short time (relatively speaking.)

Cheers, R

 

[banjoman1960]

Thank you vonstroheim for this,but i can´t get it work,my english is to bad.......i think,must live with the plane like it is.

i have try to make all changes,but then i get only errors.

is it posible to upload the fixed files that need as a zip?

cheers
ralf

 

[banjoman1960]

so sorry,thank´s to all they work at this plane,........but i can´t live with the basler vc,it is good build,but to modern for this nice plane.
i try nearly 2 houer every think,i can´t get it work..........very frustating
as more i try to get that basler vc away,as more i unlike it......

so i hope someone can upload a fix to get that old panel back

cheers ralf

 

[vonstroheim]

To avoid the error "visual model couldn't be displayed" you need to restart FSX. Check carefully how you wrote model.cfg, double check file names inside model folders, etc... Each time you change something related to the MDL files or model.cfg file, you need to restart the sim...

Sorry can't upload a zip with copyrighted material... And this is only a temporary fix, while waiting for the proper VVC, I'm sure you guys will find a solution! Don't give up yet!

Scenery: Lille-Lesquin (LFQQ) by Jean-Baptiste (pilote-virtuel.com)