BP making me mad now!

That clip was awesome. For weeks I haven't been able to print what's been on my mind with this whole affair. But thanks for a bit of rare humor.
 
The only thing that matters right now is stopping the flow, all efforts should be focused only on that. Im sure BP wants it stopped as badly as anyone else. All the finger pointing will continue for years along with the clean up. BP is taking a beating in the public eye and to spend 50 million on PR isnt so bad,whats so wrong with them getting their mesage out, Im sure any of us would do the same, theyve spent 1.4 billion so far trying to clean up and stop the flow. All this BP hate is just BS theres PLENTY of blame to go around but as long as everything was peaches and cream nobody cared how or if the MMS was doing their job or if BP or any other oil company was doing things right. The boycott BP movement is a joke, it effects their image but only hurts the BP station owners who live in your community.
As long as BP does the right thing with pay outs to those affected and gets it cleaned up Ive no problem with them, it took people over 20 years to get their money from Exxon but i dont see anyone bitching about that or Exxon.
 
I by no means am saying it is all BP's fault. It certaintly isn't. I think overall responsibility does lie with them though, and the governing body charged with issueing their permit to drill/inspecting the rig for regulation compliance. I never buy BP gas anyway (prefer Hess or Mobil myself). If we weren't in such an oil dependant world there wouldn't be a need for all this drilling. Unfortunately everything from plastic bags, oils, and fuels require petroleum bases to be produced.. Hopefully at some point in the future there will be alternatives found. I will agree though that the most important thing is to stop the leak. Whether it is BP, the military, or whoever.. I would hope other oil companies with rigs at similar depths are involved in assisting BP so that way maybe they can share a lessons learned type of thing to help prevent this from happening again.
 
i've said before, that i believe the root of the problem lies with our current culture of apathetically accepting corporate greed. it has created a philosophy of "acceptable risk" management. decisions are made because someone said "the probability that we will see a worse case scenario is X. the cost of ensuring that we do not is n.
if we gamble a little (because the odds seem favorable) we can save y amount and reap big profits. in the event that we are wrong, no single individuals will be held responsible, and our bonuses are contractually guaranteed"

in other words if they gamble, they don't lose. we do. if they had a similar game in vegas, would you not play?
 
The true problem lies with the environmentalists that put limits to off shore drilling within a mile of the coast line.

If we could tap in shallower water ... repairing this thing wouldn't be a problem.

Blame the tree huggers.
 
cheezyflier said:
i've said before, that i believe the root of the problem lies with our current culture of apathetically accepting corporate greed. it has created a philosophy of "acceptable risk" management. decisions are made because someone said "the probability that we will see a worse case scenario is X. the cost of ensuring that we do not is n.
if we gamble a little (because the odds seem favorable) we can save y amount and reap big profits. in the event that we are wrong, no single individuals will be held responsible, and our bonuses are contractually guaranteed"

in other words if they gamble, they don't lose. we do. if they had a similar game in vegas, would you not play?
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Unfortunately, what you say has logic behind it provided that none of the execs are held personally accountable.

However, that is why I maintain that when these leaders act like the money is from Monopoly and the damages are like washing your hair, then when disasters are caused and peoples' livelihoods destroyed by deliberate negligence, then put those execs in a jail for several years.

That way, there is another factor to account for when the backroom discussions are carried out. Perhaps, then, the decisions focus more upon basic responsibility to society, with a healthier consideration of duty for the public welfare.

When society gives you the keys to something vitally important and cherished, and you accept those keys, you have to be held to a high standard of behavior.

Ken
 
Another Viewpoint

Every single thing you do in your day requires you to sign on to "Acceptable Risk".
Your house is not indestructible, your car will only stay on the road within a strict performance envelope etc etc.
This is cost-driven.

Putting CEO's in jail will drive your best business leaders offshore, to places that do not prosecute.

What is essential, though, is Plan B.
When the brown stuff hits the rotating one, you absolutely must already have the response in place.
If you do not, you will be made to pay, and pay, and pay.
This seems to be the present scenario for the BP spill, and if followed through properly, the system has worked.
 
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