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British bombers? You bet, with a little help!

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Jamie,

My apologies for not responding the last couple of days. My eldest, Sara, is about four-and-a-half, and we're looking at kindergarten pretty soon. My twins are now three, and my youngest, Jayden, is now off-and-running. We'll be having a party when she's potty trained.

Unfortunately, my mother's renal failure has worsened to the point where she needs kidney dialysis three times a week, so the added stress can be a bit much. However, the fact that we have her health insurance straightened out (knock on wood!) does make me feel much more at ease.

I also don't know if you got the news, but I lost my dad late last year, the one-year anniversary comes up October 16th.
 
Rami,

sorry to hear of your loss and your continued worries, I wish you the best for your loved ones. I Hope Mrs Rami is doing well, maybe a fifth on the way soon, lol? :bump:

Glad your little ones are blooming, I can hardly believe my eldest is eight, time really flies by, seems like yesterday when the wife took the 'piddle stick' test.

Jamie
 
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Jamie,

Thank you for the concern, my friend. Erica is fine, she is still working as a registered nurse, and she enjoyed having me home for much of the summer, playing dad, and taking care of anything broken in the house on her long project list she handed me the day the school year ended. (Here in the States, this is often referred to as the "honey-do list.")

By the way...if a fifth is on the way, she's got some explaining to do. I got snipped after the fourth one, so now I am "fishing without bait."

(Snickering....) The piddle-stick test? I'm going to remember that one.
 
By the way...if a fifth is on the way, she's got some explaining to do. I got snipped after the fourth one, so now I am "fishing without bait."

You and me both me olé mucker. 4 is my limit too. 5th would prove very 'awkward' to say the least, lol.

As for 'honey-dos', knew that one, been round here long enough to pick it up along the way. We call them JFDI's. (just flipping do it (watered down version)).

Jamie

PS. If anyone is trying the Hampden, let me know any problems/requests. I'll need to brush up FSDS, but I'll work on the stuff I know about. Anyone know if Hewman100 is still around, he was a huge source of help on the old suitcase.
 
:iidea: Hi Shessi,

I mean a Liberator MkII, not a Mk III

http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_bombers/b24_5.html


"Liberator II was the designation assigned to a version of the Liberator ordered for the RAF in 1941 directly from the Consolidated production line rather than being diverted from USAAC production orders. It was designed specifically for British requirements and had no direct USAAF counterpart. 165 were ordered under RAF serials AL503/AL667, but only 140 were actually built. They served with three Coastal Command and two Bomber Command squadrons.
The RAF Liberator II differed from the previous Liberator I (which was basically a B-24A) primarily in having a three foot-longer nose section, increasing the length from 63 feet 9 inches . This stretched nose had been specified by Reuben Fleet very early in the Liberator's development when he described to the engineering team his gut feeling that the nose was too short. Fleet's instinct was correct--not only did the longer nose make the Liberator more aesthetically appealing, it also added extra room which was to become more important as more and more equipment had to be added. The Liberator II was the first version of the Liberator to be equipped with power turrets. The first installation was performed by the British in the field at English bases, when they installed two Boulton-Paul power turrets on a Liberator II. Each turret was armed with four Browning-Colt 0.303-inch machine guns. An E. Mk. II turret was installed in the tail and a A. Mk. IV turret was installed midway down the upper fuselage just aft of the wing. The top turret had 600 rounds, whereas the tail turret had a 2200-round capacity which was later increased to 2500 rounds. Only one of the Liberator IIs had its turret installed at San Diego--all the rest had their turrets added in England. In addition to the power turrets, 0.303-inch machine guns were mounted in pairs at each waist position. A single 0.303-inch machine gun was mounted in the nose and in the belly, bringing total armament to fourteen 0.303-inch machine guns.

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In January of 1942, the Liberator II entered service with RAF Bomber Command. The Liberator II equipped Nos. 159 and 160 Squadrons, which became the first bomber units to operate this type of aircraft. They operated initially in the Middle East theatre of operations, but were later transferred to the CBI theatre. Liberator IIs later equipped No 148 and 178 Squadrons of RAF Bomber Command. They also equipped Coastal Command's No. 120 Squadron, supplementing that units Liberator Is in November of 1941. They remained for about a year until supplanted by later Liberator versions."

Definitely a different looking Liberator from the Alphasim & KM versions... which still paint up well as GRIII, GRV, GRVI;)
 
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P.S. - If anyone is trying the Hampden, let me know any problems/requests. I'll need to brush up FSDS, but I'll work on the stuff I know about. Anyone know if Hewman100 is still around, he was a huge source of help on the old suitcase.

Jamie,

Yeah...hewman100 is still around, I got him to re-up his membership a couple of months back. I see him on Skype most evenings, I can alert him to this thread. My hunch is that he will be most enthused. :wiggle:
 
Had a bit of chat with Rami, I'll help in whatever form I can. Mostly it'll be information gathering and/or testing. My modelling is alright but not really to the standard required.
 
Gotcha UT,
I'd not realised that the MkIIs were basically MkIs (LB30Bs), still with non-turbo-ed 1830s (different props), but also with the 2' 6'' inserted section AND turrets. The B24D, which Alphasim and KM are, are MkIIIs, which basically added turbo-ed 1830s to the MkII spec.

Now that makes sense, shouldn't be a lot to add a nose section and turrets (he said casually...!! :0). Of the 140 MkIIs produced, 1 crashed, 75 diverted to the US AAC, the rest, 64, went to the RAF (Bomber and Coastal Command).

The RAF version has tail and upper turrets with 4x.303s, plus others...14 in total. The US version still retained the rear hand operated twin guns (as the MkIs), and has a twin gun Martin turret plus others (all being .50 cal)...8 in total.

So...nose section plus upper turret will make a US LB30/MkII, nose section plus tail and upper turrets will make an RAF LB30/MkII...phew!!! (Sorry if this has bored someone to tears...;)).

Thanks for the HU on that.

Cheers

Shessi
 
Gettin' back to the Brit bombers situation. It would be great if someone could run the tweaked source files thru Gmax for even better FRs.
 
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Pstrany has also offered his assistance working on the model files. :jump:
 
From what I'm reading here. J.D. & Shessi seem to have most of the bombers pretty much in hand for the most part. Is anyone doing anything with the Whitley? I see little sense in duplicating efforts, how about an update as to who is doing what.
 
Hampden here, plus after that, maybe something else. Not sure yet, maybe learn GMax, lol. Do we have any GMaxers here? FSDS is my extent so far.

I will join in with others if required. I think I have the Wellington too, but that looks well in hand.

Jamie
 
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Hey guys,

As long as the models are multi-lod, it makes no nevermind to me. Thanks for the effort on this, I promise I will use them! :ernae:
 
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Oldwheat,

Yeah...but the model isn't multi-lod (I don't think...) and it's not really player-flyable. I'd love to be able to use TC's model in missions.
 
I do not know wich idea is. How to run a source in gmax when it is not a gmax file or obj. file or bgl etc. is FSDS. i have some lod resources in gmax , i can ofer it in x file, bgl , or mdl i do not how to addit to FSDS resource. But long time ago i ask it. sorry.
 
Rami,

I am working on the Hampden, yes really, lol. I know I let you guys down with this, especially yourself. I had to redirect my focus in life for a while, I hope you can understand? Whilst I'll never probably be fully immersed in flightsim again, I hope to wade a bit deeper than I have.

I've (hopefully) solved the texture issue with LOD3 fuselage, applied breaking parts to that LOD. The Main LOD does have breaking parts. I'm currently redoing the lost animations on LOD 2 then will try breaking parts on that.

Jamie
 
Thank you all, I will turn away from the forum to devote more time to other responsibilities. It´s all okay.
 
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Jamie,

Ye, of course I understand on the Hampden. With four kinds and an engrossing career, I'd be a fool if I didn't understand. I just want to make sure we treat the British with respect and get her some early-war bombers.

It's only fitting, considering we have a respectable fleet of American light and medium bombers.

On the "pipe dream" front, if someone wanted to provide a GMAX upgrade to the Martin Baltimore to improve framerates, and supply a nice 2d panel, that would make my day even better.
 
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