C-97G Stratofreighter Uploaded
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I had to dig deep to find this one. Taken in 1959 with my little box camera at SFO, between the hangar and the offices, N1040V is stored away in its last Pan Am livery.
And, one more, also from 1959, N1029V stored at SFO in the newer paint scheme. Its parked adjacent to the lagoon where the Boeing 314 Clipper flying boats used to dock and be towed on a dolly to dry land. Notice the support at the aft end of the fuselage. Without the two engines attached it was possible that the aircraft could raise up and settle on its rear end.
And, one more, also from 1959, N1029V stored at SFO in the newer paint scheme. Its parked adjacent to the lagoon where the Boeing 314 Clipper flying boats used to dock and be towed on a dolly to dry land. Notice the support at the aft end of the fuselage. Without the two engines attached it was possible that the aircraft could raise up and settle on its rear end.
AussieMan
SOH Staff .."Bartender"
You will find them in the ORBX Traffic files.
The B&B repaint can be found in the Warbirds Library here at SOH.
delta_lima
Charter Member 2015
I had to dig deep to find this one. Taken in 1959 with my little box camera at SFO, between the hangar and the offices, N1040V is stored away in its last Pan Am livery.
And, one more, also from 1959, N1029V stored at SFO in the newer paint scheme. Its parked adjacent to the lagoon where the Boeing 314 Clipper flying boats used to dock and be towed on a dolly to dry land. Notice the support at the aft end of the fuselage. Without the two engines attached it was possible that the aircraft could raise up and settle on its rear end.
Now that's a thing of beauty, right there ... thanks for posting!
dl
BendyFlyer
Charter Member
Sim User Feedback Bug Report
Hi. Using the 2nd Patch version of the model. Few things may be of interest.
No issues with performance or gauges.
Minor problems with outside views, exterior views missing sections of outline or not showing, I noted on a flight yesterday that the nav lights and landing lights were visible from the left pilot position but not the wing or engines. Had not considered the fact that should see them due to too much time in jets where you can't.
The control panel setup I think is one of the most innovative changes to sim models for a long time and lets you get done the jobs required to setup radios, nav etc quickly and hence a crew member would do. On a session yesterday I clicked on the left hand bottom side of the window and the whole thing went to a minimum view or a basic short bar with two icons, close and another which I presumed would resize the window and monitor panels, it did not but only brought up a window outline. Had to shut down the sim and restart as a result as I could find no way to get the window sub display to work and hence the controls and setup areas in the various monitor sections but the model continued flying perfectly.
Hi. Using the 2nd Patch version of the model. Few things may be of interest.
No issues with performance or gauges.
Minor problems with outside views, exterior views missing sections of outline or not showing, I noted on a flight yesterday that the nav lights and landing lights were visible from the left pilot position but not the wing or engines. Had not considered the fact that should see them due to too much time in jets where you can't.
The control panel setup I think is one of the most innovative changes to sim models for a long time and lets you get done the jobs required to setup radios, nav etc quickly and hence a crew member would do. On a session yesterday I clicked on the left hand bottom side of the window and the whole thing went to a minimum view or a basic short bar with two icons, close and another which I presumed would resize the window and monitor panels, it did not but only brought up a window outline. Had to shut down the sim and restart as a result as I could find no way to get the window sub display to work and hence the controls and setup areas in the various monitor sections but the model continued flying perfectly.
BendyFlyer
Charter Member
I think this is a great project and an interesting aeronautical simulator(ion) experience. The sim performance and experience is in my humble view fairly close to the real thing. I have had very dated and short experiences as passenger in this generation of aircraft (Constellation, Catalina, DC6 DC4 DC3) but a lot or real aeroplane flying hours in heavy multi-engine piston aircraft as a former pilot. So I find the fidelity excellent. This was the technical monstrosity referred to by the late Ernest K Gann and the FE ran the show, the engines and the electrical systems to go with them required constant attention and monitoring or adjustment. I think the overall modelling is great and the textures and cockpit so far not bad but hey lots of time for improvement and change, which is the great part of this model and the great team who made it happen. For some reason this is not a mundane and uninteresting aeroplane but one that I find grows on you in a way that is fascinating, it was a fascinating aeroplane and all from grafting a pressurised passenger capsule onto a B29.
The only comment I have and this applies to all sim models is that piston engined aircraft and aircraft of this generation all had a response process that had lag, hardly noticeable for some and very for others but was always there due to mechanical conversion or transfers of input via wires, cables or hydraulics to a control or simply mechanical or physcial intertia, I don't think this can be modelled into flight sim. Oh and the smell of gasoline, oil and sweat and in some fear!
The only comment I have and this applies to all sim models is that piston engined aircraft and aircraft of this generation all had a response process that had lag, hardly noticeable for some and very for others but was always there due to mechanical conversion or transfers of input via wires, cables or hydraulics to a control or simply mechanical or physcial intertia, I don't think this can be modelled into flight sim. Oh and the smell of gasoline, oil and sweat and in some fear!
Bendyflyer, many thanks for the report. The VC is still very much of a site under construction. There aren't any proper wingviews yet, but they are on the To-do.
For the Monitor gauge pls check the "H" for Help button available for each subpanel. The click spots on the bottom line allow you to turn on some crew chatter, to reduce or expand the number of subpanels, and an exit option. This should be in more or less working order.
In the update version (see new thread) the VC has a small placard close to the yoke spelling "MON", and this can also be used for opening and closing the Monitor window.
For the Monitor gauge pls check the "H" for Help button available for each subpanel. The click spots on the bottom line allow you to turn on some crew chatter, to reduce or expand the number of subpanels, and an exit option. This should be in more or less working order.
In the update version (see new thread) the VC has a small placard close to the yoke spelling "MON", and this can also be used for opening and closing the Monitor window.
delta_lima
Charter Member 2015
I missed this comment earlier, and upon reading it, had this thought.
Personally, I see there being enough room for both. A2A can't claim the 377 as exclusive any more than PMDG could with the 747 (vis-a-vis say, POSKY), Captain Sim the 707 (vis-a-vis HJG's 707s) etc. The "market" is replete with models covered by both payware and freeware, and I, for one, would not begrudge using the current (or eventual future) VC with a 377 model done by you and your team. I think eyes are wide open by all on expectations around systems modeling and what's available from the A2A, insofar as lighting, engine system modeling, loadout management, etc - versus the proposition your models offer. I'd argue there's a whole bunch of folks who would love to dip their toe into the classic propliner world for whom such a model (in FSX) would be a dream come true.
Obviously, I'm sure we'd all respect your decision whichever you choose, but if it is not a massive effort exterior-model wise, your own VC will be happily enjoyed paired up on a b377 you do.
Just my opinion.
dl
ps - had a great flight in the KC last night, can't wait for the EC!
gray eagle
SOH-CM-2025
oldmsgt
SOH-CM-2024
gray eagle
SOH-CM-2025
Taxing with No 2 and 4 engines only
After landing, I will commence a taxi to the tarmac and shut down #1 and # 4 engines. I noticed that only one throttle lever is responsive and the plane will not have much speed.
How do I resync the throttle levers to where only #2 and #3 are responsive to my joystick lever and the others are in the off position. In spot view, #2 and #3 props do stop spinning
but to look at the cockpit throttles only one moves when I use my joystick throttle.
After landing, I will commence a taxi to the tarmac and shut down #1 and # 4 engines. I noticed that only one throttle lever is responsive and the plane will not have much speed.
How do I resync the throttle levers to where only #2 and #3 are responsive to my joystick lever and the others are in the off position. In spot view, #2 and #3 props do stop spinning
but to look at the cockpit throttles only one moves when I use my joystick throttle.
morpheusfz
Members +
Yes, its on Flightsim.com -- tal_c97.zip
WND
Charter Member
GE
It sounds like you have shut down 1 & 4 individually therefore after the #1 & #4 engines have stopped, click on 'engines' in the respective monitor panel and it should 're-sink' #2 & #3 back together.
Bill
