C-97G Stratofreighter Uploaded

[viper1977]

It looks like areas where HF radio transmit and receive antennas would be.

 

[hae5904]

Not only the HC model had those, also many of the KC and vanilla C-97 had them, especially the one on the fin. Some had them coloured more gray.

HC-97G

C-97G

KC-97L

Hank

 

[Duckie]

I believe these painted areas over the port wing and v-tail side are protective paint coatings for exhaust/vent outlets. This paint served 2 purposes. One was to help protect the skin from heat and the black color was to hide the staining. On the Fuselage just above and aft of the left wing leading edge is an exhaust fairing and on close inspection of photos of this area you can see in some cases heavy dark exhaust staining on the fuselage. On natural metal aircraft this area was painted gray on many aircraft. On one of the overall white Red Cross birds this area over the left wing is painted silver/gray.

On the port side v-tail near the base front quarter are 2 fairings stacked vertically but their staining is much less evident than that over the left wing. I have several photos showing these areas and the associated staining. I can post if you like I just didn't want to take the space if this is just a passing interest.

Cheers

Edit: Here are a couple photos

 

[DaveB]

This shot (and others) confirm the presence of an exhaust of some kind there..

http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar...anker/images/kc-97g_stratotanker_08_of_50.jpg

Not sure what it might be for though?
ATB
DaveB

 

[gray eagle]

This shot (and others) confirm the presence of an exhaust of some kind there..

http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar...anker/images/kc-97g_stratotanker_08_of_50.jpg

Not sure what it might be for though?
ATB
DaveB

Don't know just a guess.... some kind of on board aux power unit?

 

[DaveB]

Could be. I've also found shots of the main APU and that showed a flat, circular exhaust with a grid. Couldn't tell where the hell it was from the angle of the shot though!

ATB
DaveB

 

[Rallymodeller]

I thought the APU was in the forward lower lobe on the starboard side. Might the exhausts in question be for a combustion heater setup?

 

[viper1977]

i did some research last night with some cutaways...turns out the 2 small holes on the vert. stab. are exhausts for the anti-ice heat exchanger.....could it be the same for the wing root?

 

[DaveB]

I guess it's possible Viper. I know little of the Strat's construction but back in the days of the Vickers Vanguard.. I know the heating matrix in the fin could overheat and this born out by pictures on the web of a new fin LE having been fitted. This may have been a way around such problems on the Strat. The main heat exchanger on the Vanguard is below the flightdeck and is fed by intakes either side of the nose. I can't recall where any exhaust for it may be though (if any). It's not clear from Strat shots online if all aircraft have this exhaust and if not.. why?

A very small thing but a very interesting topic
ATB
DaveB

 

[HvyEng]

The areas mentioned are indeed protective coatings for exhaust areas. The vertical stab is for the empennage anti-icing heater, which burned fuel from the cross-wing manifold. The left forward fuselage is the exhaust for the cabin heaters, which both exhausted through the same pipe on the left side. The APU/APP was in the forward lower lobe in all but the EC-97. It did not need the protective coatings because it could not be operated in flight. The EC-97 had the APU in the aft lower lobe to make space for a side aimed camera in the forward area. The wing leading edges were heated via fuel heaters in the outboard engine nacelles, which also had protective coatings.

--Dan

 

[WND]

The areas mentioned are indeed protective coatings for exhaust areas. The vertical stab is for the empennage anti-icing heater, which burned fuel from the cross-wing manifold. The left forward fuselage is the exhaust for the cabin heaters, which both exhausted through the same pipe on the left side. The APU/APP was in the forward lower lobe in all but the EC-97. It did not need the protective coatings because it could not be operated in flight. The EC-97 had the APU in the aft lower lobe to make space for a side aimed camera in the forward area. The wing leading edges were heated via fuel heaters in the outboard engine nacelles, which also had protective coatings.

--Dan

Thanks Dan, I knew sooner or later someone would come forward with an explanation - lol !!! Good info to know...

Bill

 

[DaveB]

Indeed.. cheers Dan. Another I dotted and another T crossed

ATB
DaveB

 

[DaveQ]

Sort of atmospheric shot of a 180th ATS C-97G of the Missouri ANG crossing the coast.

Keeps the thread alive for this wonderful model of a real old cold war warrior at least!

DaveQ

PS not done the exhaust for the cabin heating yet!

 

[menef]

 

[menef]

Hi Dave! I've posted the C97G shot (JK paint) to touch glasses with you, your paint is wonderful !!! BYE

 

[DaveQ]

Hi Dave! I've posted the C97G shot (JK paint) to touch glasses with you, your paint is wonderful !!! BYE

Thanks and that's a really great JK paint, Menef. Now added the left side cabin exhaust and protective panel.

DaveQ

 

[menef]

GREAT !!!

 

[TiAr]

The Miss Oklahoma City repaint is driving me crazy. Working on a fix.

Insignia red

International orange

I have collected some more colored photos, some of them are showing the red like insignia red, others like international orange. And I didn´t found a source with exact color description. I only know, this C-97E paint was unique. 10224 had no protective coating on stab and a grey colored belly (not done yet). What do you think?

 

[DaveQ]

I'd go with International Orange - seems the most likely since it was standard Arctic red (FS12197) as in the T.O. Looks great like that anyway IMHO.

DaveQ

 

[gray eagle]

+2 , the orange looks pretty close.

Here is a picture of real deal: