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Can someone make a scenery for Dover Cliffs?

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Spilot69

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I find it hard to believe that MS didnt include Dover Cliffs of England. I searched all over and could find no scenery for FSX. Is someone willing to create this?
 
daytonite_andy said:
I believe the textures are from Horizon and the mesh from UTX Europe (I may be wrong...)
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UTX Europe doesn't have any mesh data.

Might be the default mesh, since the Cliffs of Dover are a well known POI and thus ACES might have used more accurate elevation data for that area.
 
They're not in the right place - as you can see from the roll-over of green at the top of the cliffs.

The only realistic cliffs I have seen so far, and they were phenomenally good, were in the CoBoy Normandy sceneries for FS9. They covered the French side of the same cliffs really very nicely indeed, but unfortunately he quit FS development altogether. I believe due to an distinct lack of sales of his sceneries.
 
I'd be more than willing to have a go at this, if people are patient...

It would be daytime VFR scenery only, with a new mesh.

It won't be my priority, as I have other things on the boil, but given time and encouragement... who knows!
 
"There'll be Broussards over, the white cliffs of Dover"..

Two more of my own photos for inspiration.
 
Those shots above are what we need, I starting to think though with the current fsx sim we use it just isn't possible, we need an FS11 lol I'm starting to think!
Ohh yeah and I need a new pc like a decent quad core to run it!
 
IF only they looked this good :)
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<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2Cx6V0QAVEU&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"></object>
 
An edit I did, what seems a long time ago now, with the cliffs. :ernae:

doverchase.jpg
 
It's impossible to make a good looking cliffs with FS terrain. I like what guys from OBD did in Over Flanders Fields for CFS3. Dover cliffs are 3d object carefully placed, and textured to match scenery textures.
 
Indeed, a 3D object placed over a good mesh is the only real way to get a vertical or near-vertical cliff to look right. My personnal favorite is Lord Howe Island, where the 3D models and mesh are blended very well indeed.

Unfortunately I don't have the time [at present] to make such a 3D model (I'd also need horizontal photos of the cliffs taken from the sea). What I can do is improve upon the existing products by using the finest resolution DSM and orthophotos I can. The result will still look "wrong", but hopefully still "better" than what is otherwise available.

If people are still interested in that, please express yourselves. I can't do it soon, but if you express an interest I will get around to it... and we'll see how it looks.

Andy
 
I looked at doing this very thing a while back and ran up against the exhorbidant costs from the Ordinance Survey folks for high resolution mesh. Now that Asterdem is done, I'll take another look there.
 
jdhaenens said:
I looked at doing this very thing a while back and ran up against the exhorbidant costs from the Ordinance Survey folks for high resolution mesh. Now that Asterdem is done, I'll take another look there.
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OS DTMs are expensive, but they are also improving slowly (less of the terrible contour stepping artifacts of years past). Despite this they have a long way to catch up with the wonderful NED. Overall OS isn't the way to go and I'll be using something different here... ;)

I'm a big follower of the Free Our Data campaign... as I believe we should really be handing out for free geospatial data that the taxpayer has already paid for... just like the USGS (and USDA in the case of NAIP etc.) in conjunction with State geospatial clearinghouses.... but I'll get off my [large] soapbox now! ;)

 
It is possible, but very hard.

As I said, CoBoy (who has since left the hobby/industry) did it in FS9 by modelling them and then blending them (not entirely successfully, but still well) to the mesh. Take a look at the Etretat scenery here: http://coboydesign.online.fr/
 
BananaBob said:
An edit I did, what seems a long time ago now, with the cliffs. :ernae:

doverchase.jpg
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Thats amazing Bob really staggering realistic shot, even if its doctored it looks amazing mate! :medals:

Guys while you are right they did see a lot of action it was a rare occurance that dogfights happed like the shot above normally the germans attacked our shipping in the English channel and wre shot down by flak and not fighter intercept. Normaly the RAF would be scrambled and intercept over land as many pilots were lost in the sea in the early days, so we tended to fight overland as so to save the lives of our pilots (Remember in the early 40's not many pilots could swim!), and they couldn't light there pipes at sea aswell lol!
 
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