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one-eye
Charter Member
I can confirm the 4 player limit on gameranger [changing your internet connection speed at GR had no effect],and checking Gold+Silver cards ,I could not find any where that these pay accounts would increase the allowed number of players.This could just be a over sight with the admin. settings.
one-eye
Charter Member
Gameanger
When a game is posted at Gameanger , 3 other people can join it, all 4 wait in a chat room with everybody's CFS3 turned off. When host hits the start button ,this auto starts the hosts' CFS3,after the hosts' game is up the 3 players' games auto start .CFS3 loads to the game list page and this seems to be the point where some times players' games may hang , get an error ,or time out [the 'check u r connected 2 the internet error] and not make it into the game.With Gameanger you can not join a game in progress , everone in the game MUST start together in the chat room.
When a game is posted at Gameanger , 3 other people can join it, all 4 wait in a chat room with everybody's CFS3 turned off. When host hits the start button ,this auto starts the hosts' CFS3,after the hosts' game is up the 3 players' games auto start .CFS3 loads to the game list page and this seems to be the point where some times players' games may hang , get an error ,or time out [the 'check u r connected 2 the internet error] and not make it into the game.With Gameanger you can not join a game in progress , everone in the game MUST start together in the chat room.
grizzly50
Charter Member
CFS3, GameRanger, and Vista
To the GameRanger people. At approximately 11:00 AM EDT-USA today, a test joining between CFS3 on Windows XP and CFS3 on Vista was attempted. There were two attempts:
1. Vista CFS3 tried to join XP CFS3. There were mismatches: Bf109G10, Bf109G6...
2. XP CFS3 tried to join CFS3 Vista CFS3. The Vista user got this message: "control "browser" isn't found in the "digmp_dogfightersscores.xml""
I am currently looking for another Vista user who is willing to attempt this. If anyone is seriously interested, please PM me here at SOH.
Note: Your CFS3 install must be vanilla. Updated with the 3.1 and 3.1a Updates only. No mods at all, but Mission Builder may be OK.
Thank you.:d
To the GameRanger people. At approximately 11:00 AM EDT-USA today, a test joining between CFS3 on Windows XP and CFS3 on Vista was attempted. There were two attempts:1. Vista CFS3 tried to join XP CFS3. There were mismatches: Bf109G10, Bf109G6...
2. XP CFS3 tried to join CFS3 Vista CFS3. The Vista user got this message: "control "browser" isn't found in the "digmp_dogfightersscores.xml""
I am currently looking for another Vista user who is willing to attempt this. If anyone is seriously interested, please PM me here at SOH.
Note: Your CFS3 install must be vanilla. Updated with the 3.1 and 3.1a Updates only. No mods at all, but Mission Builder may be OK.
Thank you.:d
DOS MAXIMUS
Charter Member
Wull
I HAVE VISTA AS WELL AS XP I CAN INSTALL GAME ON VISTA SIDE AND SEE IF IT WORKS BUT I REALLY DONT THINK SO THATS WHY I HAVE 2 HARD DRIVES 1 WITH VISTA 1 WITH XP!BUT ILL GIVE IT A TRY LET ME NO NEVER WORKED BEFORE
I HAVE VISTA AS WELL AS XP I CAN INSTALL GAME ON VISTA SIDE AND SEE IF IT WORKS BUT I REALLY DONT THINK SO THATS WHY I HAVE 2 HARD DRIVES 1 WITH VISTA 1 WITH XP!BUT ILL GIVE IT A TRY LET ME NO NEVER WORKED BEFORE
DOS MAXIMUS
Charter Member
Wull
VISTA HAS NOT ONLY MISMATCHED WITH ONLINE PLAY IN CFS3 BUT AGOOD PERCENT OF GAMES ALOT MORE RECENT THAN CFS3 ONCE AGAIN ARE BUDDY HAS GOT THE BETTER I FEAR!!!!:bs:
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Scott Kevill
Guest
Sorry about the delay in getting back.
Are any these related to each other?
Okay, I should be able to fix this. I thought 4 seemed like a pretty low number, but it was the dialup issue. I'll have GameRanger automatically set it to a faster connection type so the max players increases.
Does this still happen? Early versions of GameRanger would automatically quit the game if you alt-tabbed back to it. That no longer happens.
I do remember seeing that happen, but I don't remember what caused it.
You should re-evaluate your opinion of GMail's spam filters then. GameRanger has not ever since it launched in 1999 (nor will it ever) share your account e-mail address with anyone.
Windows 2000 will probably be okay, although it is not officially supported, and hasn't had a lot of testing. Windows 95 and 98 are definitely out though.
I am guessing you were using the in-room voice (that was accidentally left enabled to Bronze members) rather than the in-game voice. The in-game voice uses a different method, and has less delay than Team Speak.
Yes and no. The core technology will work with any game, but the support is tailored to each game. In the case of CFS3, if mods alter the user interface (I don't know if that's possible), eg. the menus, that could stop GameRanger from clicking in the right places or detecting the correct menu stage.
Is it always the same people that this happens to?
I wasn't aware CFS3 supported late joining. That's easy enough to enable.
Are any these related to each other?
Okay, I should be able to fix this. I thought 4 seemed like a pretty low number, but it was the dialup issue. I'll have GameRanger automatically set it to a faster connection type so the max players increases.
Does this still happen? Early versions of GameRanger would automatically quit the game if you alt-tabbed back to it. That no longer happens.
I do remember seeing that happen, but I don't remember what caused it.
You should re-evaluate your opinion of GMail's spam filters then. GameRanger has not ever since it launched in 1999 (nor will it ever) share your account e-mail address with anyone.
Windows 2000 will probably be okay, although it is not officially supported, and hasn't had a lot of testing. Windows 95 and 98 are definitely out though.
I am guessing you were using the in-room voice (that was accidentally left enabled to Bronze members) rather than the in-game voice. The in-game voice uses a different method, and has less delay than Team Speak.
Yes and no. The core technology will work with any game, but the support is tailored to each game. In the case of CFS3, if mods alter the user interface (I don't know if that's possible), eg. the menus, that could stop GameRanger from clicking in the right places or detecting the correct menu stage.
Is it always the same people that this happens to?
I wasn't aware CFS3 supported late joining. That's easy enough to enable.
one-eye
Charter Member
Gameanger
Quote:
Originally Posted by one-eye
-sometimes freezes at the mulitiplayer server list
-some players are unable to host or join
-sometimes CFS3 auto times out before players can join a game
Are any these related to each other?
I don't know, RG seems to stumble once in a while leaving CFS3's 'mulitiplayer server list' and connecting to the hosts game.
-I thought of this after but could leaving 'Publish my game in the M$ Server ' box checked [on] be the cause of some hosting problems ?
-As for the joining problems , I know the people who tryed have clean copys of CFS3 , and were able to join one time to the host , and not the next try to the same host.
-As well when joining ,the CFS3 error popped up while waiting at the cfs3 'mulitiplayer server list' to check you are connected to the internet , I believe this is a timed error message if the connection takes to long [60sec or so] .If you have a slow booting older PC hosting it uses up a lot of time , then add on a older or slower booting joining players PC which doesn't start to boot up cfs3 until the hosts' cfs3 is done.I also wonder what effect a slow connection speed has on this sequence ?
-The freezing at CFS3's 'mulitiplayer server list' has no error box pop up.
Quote:
Originally Posted by one-eye
-sometimes freezes at the mulitiplayer server list
-some players are unable to host or join
-sometimes CFS3 auto times out before players can join a game
Are any these related to each other?
I don't know, RG seems to stumble once in a while leaving CFS3's 'mulitiplayer server list' and connecting to the hosts game.
-I thought of this after but could leaving 'Publish my game in the M$ Server ' box checked [on] be the cause of some hosting problems ?
-As for the joining problems , I know the people who tryed have clean copys of CFS3 , and were able to join one time to the host , and not the next try to the same host.
-As well when joining ,the CFS3 error popped up while waiting at the cfs3 'mulitiplayer server list' to check you are connected to the internet , I believe this is a timed error message if the connection takes to long [60sec or so] .If you have a slow booting older PC hosting it uses up a lot of time , then add on a older or slower booting joining players PC which doesn't start to boot up cfs3 until the hosts' cfs3 is done.I also wonder what effect a slow connection speed has on this sequence ?
-The freezing at CFS3's 'mulitiplayer server list' has no error box pop up.
one-eye
Charter Member
Gameanger
Quote:
-Max of 4 players[can this be changed?]
Okay, I should be able to fix this. I thought 4 seemed like a pretty low number, but it was the dialup issue. I'll have GameRanger automatically set it to a faster connection type so the max players increases.
Presently CFS3 will allow up to 16 wild eyed loony players in a game at a time .
Quote:
-Max of 4 players[can this be changed?]
Okay, I should be able to fix this. I thought 4 seemed like a pretty low number, but it was the dialup issue. I'll have GameRanger automatically set it to a faster connection type so the max players increases.
Presently CFS3 will allow up to 16 wild eyed loony players in a game at a time .
one-eye
Charter Member
Gameanger
Quote:
-you can not go to desktop from CFS3 or the game aborts
Does this still happen? Early versions of GameRanger would automatically quit the game if you alt-tabbed back to it. That no longer happens.
Yes it still does.
Quote:
With Gameanger you can not join a game in progress , everone in the game MUST start together in the chat room.
I wasn't aware CFS3 supported late joining. That's easy enough to enable.
Yes - the lads come and go as they please from a CFS3 game .
Quote:
Originally Posted by one-eye
CFS3 loads to the game list page and this seems to be the point where some times players' games may hang , get an error ,or time out [the 'check u r connected 2 the internet error] and not make it into the game.
Is it always the same people that this happens to?
It does seem to strike the same people more than others although FireStorm was unable to join or host at all .
Quote:
-you can not go to desktop from CFS3 or the game aborts
Does this still happen? Early versions of GameRanger would automatically quit the game if you alt-tabbed back to it. That no longer happens.
Yes it still does.
Quote:
With Gameanger you can not join a game in progress , everone in the game MUST start together in the chat room.
I wasn't aware CFS3 supported late joining. That's easy enough to enable.
Yes - the lads come and go as they please from a CFS3 game .
Quote:
Originally Posted by one-eye
CFS3 loads to the game list page and this seems to be the point where some times players' games may hang , get an error ,or time out [the 'check u r connected 2 the internet error] and not make it into the game.
Is it always the same people that this happens to?
It does seem to strike the same people more than others although FireStorm was unable to join or host at all .
L
<Luca>
Guest
Hi all
i had try to connect today at game ranger - automatic update installed - now seem possible to host 16 players in game !
Great Job . ty
i had try to connect today at game ranger - automatic update installed - now seem possible to host 16 players in game !
Great Job . ty
L
<Luca>
Guest
I think also be possible players join when the game is running , but necessary to test.
Sent you a pm - Ted
Tried to host / join game with Luca 16 and 4 player if that matters and did not work.???????????????????
Glad I did not pay for this site. Not to be rude but so far do's not work. Hope it can be fixed. Would be a good alternative for CFS3 games.
flyer01, reporting on Game Ranger progress and out.
Glad I did not pay for this site. Not to be rude but so far do's not work. Hope it can be fixed. Would be a good alternative for CFS3 games.
flyer01, reporting on Game Ranger progress and out.
L
<Luca>
Guest
Hi , on my pc i had installed windowxp sp3 and i have standard Cfs3 v3.1 ,
3 weeks ago i have hosted , joined and played with others members some game on GameRanger , 4 players max in game and no possible for players to join in a game after start.
Today i had started GameRanger program and it auto updating ,
good news:
- in main menu unloked the possibillity to allow players when the game is running (before not possible)
- in main menu the numbers of players increased (6 - 8 - 10 -12 - 14 -16)
bad news (i have tested with Flyer01 and tim. ):
- i tryed to host a game 16 players; others can not connect. I tryed to host game 4 players; others can not connect.
- i tryed to join to a game opened by Flyer01 (he have xp) , i can not connect.
Error message: will appeare a little window with the host ip number - exact ip - and past a error message: not possible to connect at ip , control your internet connection is on and another message that i do not remember.
3 weeks ago i have hosted , joined and played with others members some game on GameRanger , 4 players max in game and no possible for players to join in a game after start.
Today i had started GameRanger program and it auto updating ,
good news:
- in main menu unloked the possibillity to allow players when the game is running (before not possible)
- in main menu the numbers of players increased (6 - 8 - 10 -12 - 14 -16)
bad news (i have tested with Flyer01 and tim. ):
- i tryed to host a game 16 players; others can not connect. I tryed to host game 4 players; others can not connect.
- i tryed to join to a game opened by Flyer01 (he have xp) , i can not connect.
Error message: will appeare a little window with the host ip number - exact ip - and past a error message: not possible to connect at ip , control your internet connection is on and another message that i do not remember.
one-eye
Charter Member
Gameanger
Luca I wonder if its a CFS3 error? Maybe it times out before players can connect to host , OR do you think its a Gameanger error ???
It's good to hear that 16 players can now join ,perhaps we can test this again . At least someone is listening to our requests , this is a lot better than the way Microsoft treated us ! ! ! :bs:
Hi , on my pc i had installed windowxp sp3 and i have standard Cfs3 v3.1 ,
3 weeks ago i have hosted , joined and played with others members some game on GameRanger , 4 players max in game and no possible for players to join in a game after start.
Today i had started GameRanger program and it auto updating ,
good news:
- in main menu unloked the possibillity to allow players when the game is running (before not possible)
- in main menu the numbers of players increased (6 - 8 - 10 -12 - 14 -16)
bad news (i have tested with Flyer01 and tim. ):
- i tryed to host a game 16 players; others can not connect. I tryed to host game 4 players; others can not connect.
- i tryed to join to a game opened by Flyer01 (he have xp) , i can not connect.
Error message: will appeare a little window with the host ip number - exact ip - and past a error message: not possible to connect at ip , control your internet connection is on and another message that i do not remember.
Luca I wonder if its a CFS3 error? Maybe it times out before players can connect to host , OR do you think its a Gameanger error ???
It's good to hear that 16 players can now join ,perhaps we can test this again . At least someone is listening to our requests , this is a lot better than the way Microsoft treated us ! ! ! :bs:
S
Scott Kevill
Guest
Hmm, looks like there may be more issues with this game than I thought. I'll keep looking into it, but if the game is somewhat fragile with networking in general, I may have to remove it. Sorry for getting your hopes up, this is disappointing.
grizzly50
Charter Member
Scott Kevill, please don't remove it just yet. It needs more testing. I hosted a game the other day. I had as many as four others in it at once, that's five total. One more tried to come in, but couldn't for some reason. I told him to uninstall and reinstall both the game and GameRanger. I will host again on Friday.:d