China's 5th generation fighter?

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Toastmaker said:
. . . Or a foxy StealthBat - who knows what they'll call it ?


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In chinese, it'll be just a symbol, the translation will be something like "The wind that swept over the Yang-Tse and summoned the dragon on a moonless night in the year of the tiger." :d
 
OK, so not only can it taxi, it can fly too. :rolleyes: I am still not convinced that it's a legit advanced prototype and not just a demo mock-up. All this media leakage, videos from outside the airfield perimeter, etc. I smell a mackerel, as in disinformation campaign.
 
TARPSBird said:
OK, so not only can it taxi, it can fly too. :rolleyes: I am still not convinced that it's a legit advanced prototype and not just a demo mock-up. All this media leakage, videos from outside the airfield perimeter, etc. I smell a mackerel, as in disinformation campaign.
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Same here
 
TARPSBird said:
OK, so not only can it taxi, it can fly too. :rolleyes: I am still not convinced that it's a legit advanced prototype and not just a demo mock-up. All this media leakage, videos from outside the airfield perimeter, etc. I smell a mackerel, as in disinformation campaign.
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It's very real but in the sense that it's like what the YF-22A prototype was before the F-22A became finalized. Inside information from Jane's and one of my old DARPA partners say the tooling and integral systems for the J-20 are truly 5th Gen. Right now, it lacks a Radar set, Fire Control, and other outfittings to make it anything other than a base airframe to demonstrate proof of concept. On one of the videos, you can see the control surfaces moving. That was clear indication of advanced quadruplex fbw flight control systems. As to it not having thrust vectoring, that could end up being an option later in the production version since it uses AL-31F engines anyway but judging from the significant amount of aerodynamic surface area, I tend to believe adding systems for thrust vectoring is likely a waste of time and weight on the aircraft.

This plane isn't the end of their stealth ambitions. Rumors persist that there is a global stealth bomber in the works as well. I'm not going to rule anything out after so many people in our aerospace and intelligence apparatus said this plane's first flight was not going to happen until 2018 to 2020 or that it would never happen at all.
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The defense argued Gowadia only provided unclassified information to China and was innocent.
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That "defense" fails any sanity check. Why would anyone pay for "unclassified information?"
 
n4gix said:
That "defense" fails any sanity check. Why would anyone pay for "unclassified information?"
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Just for the fun of it....

Have you ever tryed to get any thing from the Gov that was unclassified? Every 2-3 month I read how some had to sue to get to get unclassified information about any thing. Just because it unclassified information dosn't mean that you can just get it. The Gov will stone wall you if they want no mater what.
 
Allen said:
Just for the fun of it....

Have you ever tryed to get any thing from the Gov that was unclassified? Every 2-3 month I read how some had to sue to get to get unclassified information about any thing. Just because it unclassified information dosn't mean that you can just get it. The Gov will stone wall you if they want no mater what.
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Allen, you have a good point. I have had to jump through many hoops to get FOI requests granted just to get details about family members who were killed in action in various locations. And that was with me being former Military and Civilian DARPA with a host of clearances. But on the other hand, on many occasions, there have been so called "unintended leaks" or transfers of extremely sensitive technologies directly into foreign hands. It's the nature of the Govt machine. The security tarp cover is only so big and only as good as it's gate keepers and quite honestly, I wouldn't trust some of those gate keepers to watch my house & it's contents!
 
n4gix said:
That "defense" fails any sanity check. Why would anyone pay for "unclassified information?"
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An to go on this subject again...

Do you think the Gov will just hand unclassified information about Stealth tech to a Chinese in a sute and tie and not know what was going on?

We all know this would not happen. This is why people will pay for unclassified information.
 
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