sixstrings5859
Charter Member
Absolutely awesome work. Thank you so much for the work involved. Regards, Scott
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Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.
City Textures rework
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Pat Pattle
SOH-CM-2026
That's looking every inch like Great Britain! Marvelous!
Thanks Clive.
For the moment I decided to use the above mos in the 'forest and field landclass instead.
Clive kindly provided me with the source files for his Dover model. There were two separate models for the castle and harbour and after some headbanging I finally got Clive's two models into the sim.
I created a Dover castle m3d file, building file, and facilities xml file, but could not get the model to show up in the sim. I eventually realized, if I'm not mistaken, that a new model has to be added to the gsl.lib via the global layer.csv.
An easier way was to add the newly created ACC_Dover_Castle building and the separate harbour model to the existing GB-GC_Dover_Harbour.XML, and they showed up in the sim.
I have some other building models that I want to add to the sim, but that will probably be a later battle with the global layer process.
The harbour went into position without much fuss and I removed the castle's hill and trimmed Clives excellent castle model in gmax to finally get it into position on the terrain. It seems to be tailor made for that hill, who'da thunk.
This screenshot reminds me that St Margarets on cliffe in the background needs to be moved further Eastwards, this was an initial rough placement just to see what it would look like.
I know that the red roofs have mysteriously popped up again, this will be remedied on release.
For the moment I decided to use the above mos in the 'forest and field landclass instead.
Clive kindly provided me with the source files for his Dover model. There were two separate models for the castle and harbour and after some headbanging I finally got Clive's two models into the sim.
I created a Dover castle m3d file, building file, and facilities xml file, but could not get the model to show up in the sim. I eventually realized, if I'm not mistaken, that a new model has to be added to the gsl.lib via the global layer.csv.
An easier way was to add the newly created ACC_Dover_Castle building and the separate harbour model to the existing GB-GC_Dover_Harbour.XML, and they showed up in the sim.
I have some other building models that I want to add to the sim, but that will probably be a later battle with the global layer process.
The harbour went into position without much fuss and I removed the castle's hill and trimmed Clives excellent castle model in gmax to finally get it into position on the terrain. It seems to be tailor made for that hill, who'da thunk.
I know that the red roofs have mysteriously popped up again, this will be remedied on release.
Frosty
SOH-CM-2026
I created a large test square on the map so that I could see where googlearth fields and gardens can be placed between the trees on the mos texture that I'm using for the small city landclass.
This landclass will be used for villages and small towns.
You're one to know
. It looks so much better than the stock stuff. It sure makes selecting a suitable field for a deadstick landing much more challenging! Very good and interesting work being done here - I'll be keeping an eye on this tread 
Pat Pattle
SOH-CM-2026
Yes , it does fit in well and looks a lot less 'fussy' than my arrangement. I was keen on getting the cliffs below the castle in, but probably made it too complicated.
Are you going alter the castle hill texture to make it blend in better?
I would have liked to preserve the hill on which the model was perched, but that bit of cliff in the front was out of place. At a later stage the cliff model could be extended towards the castle and the hill could be replaced.
The castle hill is part of the general terrain so I probably wont mess with it much if that was what you were referring to.
As well as working on some new buildings, I'm editing the tree highlights. I've learned a bit a bit about using layers in gimp since I originally created those tree highlights and I'm sure they could look better close up.
I'm also adding googlearth fields to the a_047summer2_roads texture to add another mos/iso to the Forest and fields landclass, just for some variety.
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Taking a closer look at the castle texture the trees and some sections are probably a bit too green and could do with an edit. I'm listening to a lot of ww2 veteran testimonies as I have fun, cant really call it work. It's great that some folk are interviewing these veterans while some are still living. The vietnam testimonies are also pretty interesting.
I finally managed to get some of my own simple models into the sim using the global layer process. It was a time consuming pain in the arse, though now that I know a wee bit, it should get quicker and easier.
I learnt some things the hard way. Run the global lib bat and mkglob.exe as an administrator, and always check your edited facility xml files for syntax errors in the browser after editing.
Use an excel editor and not notepad to create the 'global layer.csv' entry. Its easy to leave out a comma, or enter info in the incorrect field in notepad, which can mess you around for some time if you are new to the process.
For model placement on the map, notepad can be used to adjust the co-ordinates as it's quicker and there's less chance of making errors, and most importantly, always read the tuts thoroughly and even twice through, to ensure that you fully understand what you need to do.
I still need to create a mos file airfield for the models, so I hope that proceeds more smoothly.
If anybody has any advice it will be appreciated.
The simple models were created in Gmax. You don't completely lose the ability to create models in 3dmax even after 20 yrs since last using the program.
The gmax ui is more natural to use than blender, but texture mapping is more time consuming. In blender, the mapping can be done in edit mode, selecting a few faces at a time for quick and easy mapping.
This is the Ramsgate civilian airfield terminal building and accompanying hanger.
I learnt some things the hard way. Run the global lib bat and mkglob.exe as an administrator, and always check your edited facility xml files for syntax errors in the browser after editing.
Use an excel editor and not notepad to create the 'global layer.csv' entry. Its easy to leave out a comma, or enter info in the incorrect field in notepad, which can mess you around for some time if you are new to the process.
For model placement on the map, notepad can be used to adjust the co-ordinates as it's quicker and there's less chance of making errors, and most importantly, always read the tuts thoroughly and even twice through, to ensure that you fully understand what you need to do.
I still need to create a mos file airfield for the models, so I hope that proceeds more smoothly.
If anybody has any advice it will be appreciated.
The simple models were created in Gmax. You don't completely lose the ability to create models in 3dmax even after 20 yrs since last using the program.
The gmax ui is more natural to use than blender, but texture mapping is more time consuming. In blender, the mapping can be done in edit mode, selecting a few faces at a time for quick and easy mapping.
This is the Ramsgate civilian airfield terminal building and accompanying hanger.
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mongoose
SOH-CM-2026
I finally managed to get some of my own simple models into the sim using the global layer process. It was a time consuming pain in the arse, though now that I know a wee bit, it should get quicker and easier.
Nice models there
I learnt some things the hard way. Run the global lib bat and mkglob.exe as an administrator, and always check your edited facility xml files for syntax errors in the browser after editing.
Use an excel editor and not notepad to create the 'global layer.csv' entry. Its easy to leave out a comma, or enter info in the incorrect field in notepad, which can mess you around for some time if you are new to the process.
I don't get your global layer issues and use of an excel file. I do a lot of global layer work using Libre Office spread sheet; all data in columns, not the word string separated by commas, etc. I would never bother with notepad or anything other the spreadsheet in columns.
For model placement on the map, notepad can be used to adjust the co-ordinates as it's quicker and there's less chance of making errors, and most importantly, always read the tuts thoroughly and even twice through, to ensure that you fully understand what you need to do.
One way of placing items on the gsl is to use a driivable jeep or similar, and actually drive it to where you want with the 'z' coordinate key in action. If you can't actually drive therer, I have used a storch or similar slow aircraft flying just above the ground.
I still need to create a mos file airfield for the models, so I hope that proceeds more smoothly.
If anybody has any advice it will be appreciated.
The simple models were created in Gmax. You don't completely lose the ability to create models in 3dmax even after 20 yrs since last using the program.
The gmax ui is more natural to use than blender, but texture mapping is more time consuming. In blender, the mapping can be done in edit mode, selecting a few faces at a time for quick and easy mapping.
This is the Ramsgate civilian airfield terminal building and accompanying hanger.
Nice models there
I learnt some things the hard way. Run the global lib bat and mkglob.exe as an administrator, and always check your edited facility xml files for syntax errors in the browser after editing.
Use an excel editor and not notepad to create the 'global layer.csv' entry. Its easy to leave out a comma, or enter info in the incorrect field in notepad, which can mess you around for some time if you are new to the process.
I don't get your global layer issues and use of an excel file. I do a lot of global layer work using Libre Office spread sheet; all data in columns, not the word string separated by commas, etc. I would never bother with notepad or anything other the spreadsheet in columns.
For model placement on the map, notepad can be used to adjust the co-ordinates as it's quicker and there's less chance of making errors, and most importantly, always read the tuts thoroughly and even twice through, to ensure that you fully understand what you need to do.
One way of placing items on the gsl is to use a driivable jeep or similar, and actually drive it to where you want with the 'z' coordinate key in action. If you can't actually drive therer, I have used a storch or similar slow aircraft flying just above the ground.
I still need to create a mos file airfield for the models, so I hope that proceeds more smoothly.
If anybody has any advice it will be appreciated.
The simple models were created in Gmax. You don't completely lose the ability to create models in 3dmax even after 20 yrs since last using the program.
The gmax ui is more natural to use than blender, but texture mapping is more time consuming. In blender, the mapping can be done in edit mode, selecting a few faces at a time for quick and easy mapping.
This is the Ramsgate civilian airfield terminal building and accompanying hanger.
Work on Chichester cathedral model. I created this model in blender a while ago for an il2 channel map . It's a low poly version of the Bob2wov model, which I used as a guide. I'm busy skinning it in gmax. There are a few more pieces to add add and then it will be ready for placement.
sixstrings5859
Charter Member
Excellent Work ! Fantastic to see the progress ! Thank you Sir ! Regards, Scott
MajorMagee
SOH-CM-2022
The last time I saw Chichester Cathedral was 30 years ago, and it was being repaired.
mongoose
SOH-CM-2026
Yes, I used it to get those two models into position, but it took me about 2 hrs yesterday morning.
With your advise about using the 'z' key it will now be a lot quicker. Thank you.
Probably still have to pay attention to altitude. Personally I use Google Earth for that, as well as for some position placement for things like the Cathedral.
Pat Pattle
SOH-CM-2026
Work on Chichester cathedral model. I created this model in blender a while ago for an il2 channel map . It's a low poly version of the Bob2wov model, which I used as a guide. I'm busy skinning it in gmax. There are a few more pieces to add add and then it will be ready for placement.
That's very nice Glen!
It wouldn't take much to create other Cathedrals too, they're all pretty similar.Thanks Clive!
The Cathedrals and churches break the monotony of similar buildings in the cities, so I will, create a lot more on both sides of the channel.
My next models will be a low poly version of Cantebury cathedral which is a bit more complex, and st George the martyr church for Ramsgate. I love historic old buildings, so the opportunity to recreate these for the sim is a real pleasure.
I also did some 'lcf' work in the Sussex area today, trimming some cities and adding forests according to google earth, though detailed work is limited by the resolution of the lcf viewer map .
The Cathedrals and churches break the monotony of similar buildings in the cities, so I will, create a lot more on both sides of the channel.
My next models will be a low poly version of Cantebury cathedral which is a bit more complex, and st George the martyr church for Ramsgate. I love historic old buildings, so the opportunity to recreate these for the sim is a real pleasure.
I also did some 'lcf' work in the Sussex area today, trimming some cities and adding forests according to google earth, though detailed work is limited by the resolution of the lcf viewer map .
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