Computer shutting Down in P3D

Naismith said:
Falcon..... just in browsing to day I came across this YT video which may be able to assist you in tracking down the reason for your crashes
It involves use of a free service at this website http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=Analyze
The video is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-mu2xBociw
There is no danger here as it involves just an analysis of a text file which is hidden in Windows c:\Windows\Minidump
Good luck.
Alex.
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Gave this a try, I took to the skies once again in V4 and after about 15-20 minutes the system died. . . . .however, whatever the cause, it does not trigger any kind of information log that shows up in the "Minidump" folder (which I had to make as there was no such folder to begin with).
 
Time to put this one to bed I think. Last evening I removed the main components (PSU, Video Card, Memory, CPU, heatsinks), then dusted, cleaned, hit everything with compressed air, gave the Motherboard a once over looking for any signs of overheating (bulged or leaking capacitors, etc), then put everything back together making sure all components were seated correctly, no loose connects, yada, yada, yada. Turned the system back on, got into Win10 and loaded CPUID to monitor everything to see if I could spot anything obvious. Ran Prepar3D_V4 and took a short hop from North Texas Regional to Sherman Municipal (about 5nm as the crow flies). Landed, parked the Heli and watched the replay and just as the Heli was about to set down by the Terminal the PC shut down.

While monitoring the systems, all Temps were well within the normal range, rendering any overheating as a non-issue. If it is the PSU as I suspect (like what else could it be?), I saw nothing in the readings to indicate that the PC was about to go black. Since it is a complete shutdown and instantaneous, I don't know that I would have detected it anyway. Anyway, I will replace the PSU (a 600W Thermaltake) and replace it with a 750W and hope that this fixes the problem. Until then, the PC will get very little use as Flying is about the only reason I have it. . .I can check mail, use Google and Facebook on my iPhone.
 
Ed, I know you have checked your power settings, but googling sugests that the most frequent cause of unexpected shutdowns seems to be power settings. Display and pc should be set to "never" sleep or hibernate in all instances.
 
Roger said:
Ed, I know you have checked your power settings, but googling suggests that the most frequent cause of unexpected shutdowns seems to be power settings. Display and pc should be set to "never" sleep or hibernate in all instances.
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Thanks Roger. . .Yea, all those settings were checked and rechecked several times so far and unless something is hidden that I haven't found all are set to "Never".
 
My system was doing this. I ran across an article about PSU leads mysteriously grounding to the case. I moved some un-used leads about, so they didn't touch anything, and it fixed it. Of course, I found this out after I replaced what was probably a perfectly good PSU! The brand new one did the same thing until I moved those leads.
Sue
 
Penzoil3 said:
My system was doing this. I ran across an article about PSU leads mysteriously grounding to the case. I moved some un-used leads about, so they didn't touch anything, and it fixed it. Of course, I found this out after I replaced what was probably a perfectly good PSU! The brand new one did the same thing until I moved those leads.
Sue
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Thanks Sue, one more thing I can go back and check. . . .the only thing that is odd is that this only happens when I'm flying. If I were to load P3D first thing in the morning and go flying, after about 15 minutes or so the PC would go dark. . .everything off. If I then reset and get back into Win10 and spend the rest of the day surfing the net it would run without a single glitch.:dizzy:
 
The funky thing about PSU's is how the power is distributed...and how various components inside the unit distribute the power. It explains (sort of) why the CPU and video card shut down and peripherals can still run. There is likely a bad component that overheats. Since P3Dv4 utilizes the video card to a much higher degree than FSX or even earlier versions of P3D, the power supply is handling a larger wattage, which equals more heat. Just my two cents...and I've been down this road myself.
 
paiken said:
The funky thing about PSU's is how the power is distributed...and how various components inside the unit distribute the power. It explains (sort of) why the CPU and video card shut down and peripherals can still run. There is likely a bad component that overheats. Since P3Dv4 utilizes the video card to a much higher degree than FSX or even earlier versions of P3D, the power supply is handling a larger wattage, which equals more heat. Just my two cents...and I've been down this road myself.
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I have eliminated overheating as a contributor. I have several monitoring programs that I run side by side with P3D_V4 while in the air over various terrains and amounts of autogen. Unless the CPU or GPU suddenly spikes to 198F from 98F in the split second it takes for everything to go black and die, then it isn't overheating. . .it is a faulty PSU. I'm sure I could send it over to the Geek Squad at Best Buy and let them discover (maybe) what the problem is and they could charge me $45 or $50 to run the diagnostics and maybe find the problem and if it is the PSU then I'm looking at another $75 to $80 (at least) for a better PSU. Financially, I can just get enough together to get a new PSU and not pay something else til next month. . .and that's about it.

To be honest, aside from watching the temps and CPU/GPU usage while running V4, the rest of the information shown on these monitoring apps is of no intellectual use to someone who doesn't understand them or know what he's looking at. The only thing that stands out while I'm fling is that the CPU is almost constantly running at 100% capacity. It does fluctuate constantly, but in the end the averages for all 4 cores displays thus. . . .Core0=100%, Core1=98%, Core2=100%, Core3=100%.
 
falcon409 said:
I have eliminated overheating as a contributor. I have several monitoring programs that I run side by side with P3D_V4 while in the air over various terrains and amounts of autogen. Unless the CPU or GPU suddenly spikes to 198F from 98F in the split second it takes for everything to go black and die, then it isn't overheating. . .it is a faulty PSU.
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The overheating I was referring to takes place inside the PSU and thus would not show up in your temperature monitoring of the CPU or GPU. The bigger draw on current is likely pushing something inside the PSU over the edge, as you referenced in your "Update" thread.
 
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