Conspicuous by Their Absence

Hey Smilo,

I'll take one of those also. It looks a bit like a Ju-87B rather than a Ju-87D, but it is pretty.

BTW, What do you all think of the Hawker Hurricane Mk.II as a Tutorial subject?

- Ivan.
 
#5 would be my preference.

Someone in CFS2 has just completed a Fiat G55. It was another very nice Italian plane and supposed to outfly spitfires and Fw190s.
 
okay guys, here's the story;
several years ago, i was given
a copy of the Ju87B-2 10_LG1
in it were the textures you see
in the screen shot.

a few years later,
i was given a package
that was called FS Classics.
low and behold, the Stuka was in it,
all be it with different textures,
along with many other fine examples.

jeepers, there was even documentation.

here's the rub, it turns out
that it was a payware package by
2000 Interactive Associates (CDC) Ltd.
just for fun, google it

here's a line from the document;
All rights reserved. You may use this software for
personal use only. You may not transfer any part to any other party, online service or the Internet.

needless to say,
with all of the brew-ha ha about piracy,
i am more than a little leery
about passing this stuff around.
it doesn't matter
that i think these files
are past their prime,
are dead in the water,
and should be available.
no matter

so, here's the deal,
i am, currently, very busy
and don't have the time to follow this up.
if someone here would like to
get permission from these guys,
i would be pleased as punch
to offer the entire package at Dave's site,
or better yet, two packages.
it's a biggie...about 200mb

as enticement, here is a zip file
of the Luftwaffe documentation.
it's on the attachment size border line,
so i will have to add the RAF doc
in another post.
 
turns out i can't upload the RAF document.
it's 6.44mb
i'll see if i can split it.
or do you want me
to post it in another thread?
 
Hi Smilo,
Now that I know what it is, don't worry about it. I think I might even already have a version of that plane though with a different paint job. From the sounds of it though, even if that model is quite good, a distributable SturzKampf Flugzeug is worthwhile.

Dave!
Haven't heard from you in a while. For CFS1, there is even a publicly available AFX for the Fiat G.55. I downloaded it way way back and did a lot of fixing to it for my own personal use. I didn't create this AFX, so I am not about to upload the model any place.
Recently I found M14Forum.com and have been spending a fair amount of time over there.

- Ivan.
 
i have others that i have acquired over the years,
but this one is the best
and PJ's paint really enhances it.

one of these days,
i should go through and organize
all of the stuff i have
spread all over the place.
now, there's an on going project.

maybe later, much later.
i'm currently approaching Cape Gloucester
in an A-20 in the Southwest Pacific Tour;
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforu...r-Havoc-in-the-SW-Pacific&p=579353#post579353
turning on final in a couple minutes
 
Ivan said:
Hubbabubba,
Seems like your choice is very popular. I was kind of surprised that the Yak wasn't more popular since I don't believe anyone has actually done a good one. The Macchi fighters have at least a couple good examples.
(...)
- Ivan.
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You're the one who asked! Any on the list would do, but the "Veltro" is one hot plane...:applause:

I was unaware of the asymmetry, so the Yak would do as well. It's your show:ernae:!
 
yup, after i posted,
i did a little digging and came up with the same thing,
although, i didn't notice the shipping charge.

even though it is a nice AC,
and there are other nice planes in the package,
i'd say that $15.15US is a bit spendy for a Stuka.
i mean, jeez, if you add the RAF package,
we're talkin' $30+US.

i can't help but wonder
how many sales they've made
in the past few years.
maybe someone could convince them
that it's time to offer both as freeware.

just a though...or two.
 
From what I have seen, very often Payware isn't as good as stuff you can get for free. Perhaps with other simulators things are different? (No, I wasn't refering to planes I built.)

- Ivan.
 
Ivan said:
From what I have seen, very often Payware isn't as good as stuff you can get for free. Perhaps with other simulators things are different? (No, I wasn't refering to planes I built.)

- Ivan.
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now, there is a subject for controversy!
you would be surprised how many people
get their feelings hurt
if someone criticizes their work.
ahem, choke, choke...
fortunately, CFS is well beyond it.

as i see it, it's a yin/yang thing,
some are excellent, some are not.
that goes for both, freeware and payware.

to be honest,
i have NEVER bought a sim product
and don't intend to.
as i see it,
there is plenty of freeware to keep me happy.

BUT, and here's the kicker,
as a staff member,
one of the perks has been a few gifts.
for example, Bill, aka, LionHeart,
generously gave me a copy
of his fantastic Epic for FS9.
that thing is a jewel!

so i guess i'm talking
out of both sides of my mouth.


No Dice said:
I agree Ivan,
So when is your Stuka scheduled to be released ?

Dave
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you are a funny guy

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hey, Ivan!!!
just a thought
how about the how to project plane
being a stuka,
instead of the veltro?
like i said,
just a thought.
 
hey, Ivan!!!
just a thought
how about the how to project plane
being a stuka,
instead of the veltro?
like i said,
just a thought.
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I would venture to say, smilo, that the Ju 87, being filled with nooks and crannies, is not a proper "starter" project. Ivan was looking at relatively smooth curves with a minimum of "bleeding occasions". Starting with the Ju 87 would be like learning piano by playing a symphonic piece on your first lesson.
 
yes, no doubt about it,
but it was worth a shot.
just trying to kill to birds
with one stone.

i would say the stuka as a project
is pretty much analogous
with the German industrial war effort,
great engineering, just too complex.

of course, i'm over simplifying.
 
Hi Folks,

Hubbabubba explained it pretty well. The Stuka in my opinion is quite do-able using AF99. The problem is that it would not be a simple direct process. I am betting that it would need quite a few rebuilds to be able to finish without exceeding the resource limits.

Besides, I have already done quite a bit of research on the C205 Veltro. I see it as fit for a tutorial, but I don't see this becoming a releasable plane anytime soon.

- Ivan.
 
Two months and change down the road, the Macchi C.205 Veltro Tutorial is finishing up. Most of the essentials are there. Now it is mostly just detail stuff.

The really funny thing about the choice between the Veltro and the Stuka as a Tutorial subject is that with hindsight being perfect, the Stuka would not have been all that different in terms of complexity. The Stuka may have a lot of pieces, but it is basically all straight lines and hard corners which makes it attractive from a modelling standpoint.

Did I just put "Attractive" and "Stuka" in the same sentence????

- Ivan.
 
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