DCS F-16C Fighting Falcon

It seems that the F-16 is only available in the open beta version. I had stuck with the stable one so far but this is definitely a reason to update.
 
Phantom88 said:
Hello Dimus,This is a fantastic Utility that let's you switch between DCS Open Beta and Stable with ease.
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=160053
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Phantom / All - That is an interesting looking utility and the first utility / add-on (other than the user supported A-4) I've seen for DCS. I'm going to start a thread about "free" / user supported add-ons and utilities for DCS. The other thing I have problems with is simply doing things in DCS that are "already knowns" in P3D / FSX like simply changing munitions, etc., etc. I'm kind of a dope when it comes to that. Is that an easy thing to accomplish?
 
rvn817j,

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This brings up the armament menu for fueling and arming or rearming with munitions. It can only be done on the ground with WoW. For some FC3 aircraft like the Eagle, your engines must be off and the Battery off as well. This is the same key command for every module. Not just Viper. This is also the place you can change your aircraft paint scheme from the drop down as long as the paint is part of the country you set the aircraft to in the mission editor matches the countries listed in the paints' description.lua file.
 
This must be the easiest jet to fly and land on any sim. Feels like on rails on approach. I wonder if the real one is like that.
 
Dimus said:
This must be the easiest jet to fly and land on any sim. Feels like on rails on approach. I wonder if the real one is like that.
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Yes, even the YF-16's were super stable. Original YF-16/F-16A Test pilots Phil Oestricher and Neil Anderson noted how they could set the aircraft in a given direction and the auto-trim kept it right where they wanted while other aircraft tended to meander off one direction or another. One of the two long time F-16 pilots I know told me that any competent pilot could fly an F-16 in terms of standard rate turns, climbs descents, takeoffs and landings with minimal training. Of course the High G envelope, that's another story.
 
Dimus said:
This must be the easiest jet to fly and land on any sim. Feels like on rails on approach. I wonder if the real one is like that.
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Not that it was difficult or uncontrollable for me, but I did notice my first (and only so far) final approach was a bit wonky. I had my wings rocking a bit, but I may have been too slow. It felt like it was losing control like a plane does as it approaches stall. That being said I landed it no problem and my first flight was just fun. I tried to get it over mach 2, but no chance with the loadout in the taxi and takeoff training mission. I was doing mach 1 about 50 feet off the deck though - that was fun.

Did anyone notice any performance issues with the F-16? Doing the taxi and takeoff mission, in VR like usual, I just noticed some slight stuttering when looking left or right. Mind you I was doing mach 1+ close to the ground, but I haven't really noticed that stuttering for a long time, especially since I got my new system (i9-9900k, RTX 2080Ti). I did notice there were a lot of AI aircraft flying around in that training mission though, so maybe something wasn't optimized.

The modelling of the F-16 is amazing though. I actually spent about 5 minutes just looking at the seat cover and chuckling to myself :biggrin-new:. Seriously, if you haven't yet, check out the seat cover. Even tiny little tufts of fur/wool are sticking out on the edges and there are some specks of dirt ( or dandruff?) and a stray hair, it is just amazing modelling and texturing.
 
Currently Fuel Flow and power output need to be improved. They are currently inaccurate. Fuel Flow needs to be increased by about ~60% currently I can only achieve ~24K PPH, and the GE 129 should be in the almost 60K PPH range. According to a Viper driver friend of mine. At SL of course.
 
Another area that needs to be tweaked in the flight model is the ability to sustain G's within or below the corner velocity tables. At present, the clean version will not sustain at or near Max G holding the speeds where it should for that G level. I am guessing the drag tables at higher AoA are off a bit but the lift/G vector may be as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goluWOE3q74

That being noted, something else that has needed adjustment in DCS for some time is the G strain/blackout threshold. It's simply set too low in general and especially for the aircraft where both the Anti-G Suit and G Strain averages would give the pilot more than enough ability to stay above the G curve during such a turn.
 
000rick000 said:
Currently Fuel Flow and power output need to be improved. They are currently inaccurate. Fuel Flow needs to be increased by about ~60% currently I can only achieve ~24K PPH, and the GE 129 should be in the almost 60K PPH range. According to a Viper driver friend of mine. At SL of course.
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Victory103 said above that he couldn't achieve 100% throttle, so that may be why max. fuel flow can't be achieved.

Another thing I noticed in my first run around was that the onspeed AoA indicator seemed to be lit up the whole flight despite gear and flaps (supposedly) being up. That should only be active in landing configuration shouldn't it?
 
Something interesting to note is that while the F-16 can achieve higher turn rates than the F-15, they are almost a match and in some realms the F-15 is superior when it comes to sustaining turn rate.
 
Scott I can achieve 100% and more RPM. That isn't an issue for me. Sounds like he's got a joystick issue.

A blk 50 F-16C with F110-GE-129 engine and above 400 kits can accelerate under 9g radial. EDIT: Below 10K feet and over 440.
 
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I'm still checking bindings, but my TM Hawg works fine in all other modules so probably some tweaking on my end. I flew it day 1, left for a trip and come back to all the issues now that the EA masses have had a chance to wring the Viper out. I see repaints already coming in.
 

***Big Update for Viper*** In Open Beta Today***

DCS: F-16C Viper
  • Master Caution should be clearable as expected
  • RWR and other sounds now properly installed for Viper (sounds still placeholders)
  • Adjusted HUD visibility over cockpit geometry.
  • Engine control switch animation through guard is fixed .
  • Fixed unlimited weapon rearming.
  • EHSI font corrected, NO DATA page added.
  • CARA indication for high altitude fixed.
  • Oxygen emergency lever clickability and input fixed.
  • Oxygen flow indicator fixed.
  • Audio for radio communications identifying players aircraft fixed.
  • External sound update.
  • Loop in DED TILS ILS freq fixed.
  • AOA indexer lights logic fixed.
  • AOA bracket will appear on HUD after lowering nose landing gear, fixed.
  • Changed PROBE HEAT to spring loaded TEST.
  • Added RU localization for Viper startup.
  • IFF HUD data overlapped / fuzzy - fixed.
  • Inconsistent response from ground crew with canopy closed - fixed.
  • AAR with cold start fixed.
  • Cockpit. Lighting textures tuned. Console panels textures updated (text readability improved).
  • CCIP line will point in TVV sign center point.
  • Default frequency on UHF backup panel fixed.
  • Speedbrake sound dynamics update.
  • UHF backup panel: status function fixed.
  • Radio frequencies increments fixed.
  • Flashlight fixed.
  • Fixed switching between CCRP-CCIP if you use last bomb with CCRP.
  • Waypoints on FCR and HSI misaligned - fixed.
  • ILS CMD STRG disables if ILS power removed, fixed.
  • Added damage of some elements WIP.
 
One note: after the update, if you created a mission with the wing pylons removed (clean airshow or aggressor config), you will see missile launch rails floating suspended below where the pylons were. Hopefully they will get that fixed soon.
 
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