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Does anyone have the J35J Draken freeware/payware made by bookmark simulations?

SwiftKift

SwiftKift

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I stumbled across this absolutely wonderful freeware by bookmark simulations a week ago and was sad to find out that bookmark simulations has shut down. I tried looking everywhere online for a copy of the Draken 4.1.2 freeware (not 4.0) but it seems it's scrubbed from the internet. I read the EULA on bookmark's website, and it said both freeware and payware versions of the draken are free to redistribute, so I think it's okay for them to be reuploaded. If anyone could upload/send it that would be really awesome!
 
The over-riding thing that controls our ability to distribute or host Thomas' files is copyright. Without his explicit permission, we should not either distribute or host his files here . . .
 
rohan said:
The over-riding thing that controls our ability to distribute or host Thomas' files is copyright. Without his explicit permission, we should not either distribute or host his files here . . .
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I think that this answers that question: https://simulations.bookmark.se/eula/

He said that the files can be redistributed. So, to avoid any issues, I propose that you share it amongst yourselves.

Priller
 
Please, if you have a copy, reach out and send me it. It's horrible that such a beautiful aircraft will be lost to time!
 
I haven't had any luck locating a good contact for Thomas Nillson as of yet. I did find several websites that hosted the Draken 4.2.1, but in an attempt to download... the message comes back with "FILE UNAVAILABLE".
I did however find the original Draken version 3.1 available here:

www.fs2000.org

– FS2004 Saab 35 Draken

FS2004 Saab 35 Draken jet fighter v3.1. This version has more realistic flight dynamics and improved traffic radar. Advanced systems simulation, drop tanks, chute, afterburner, visual fx, authentic…
www.fs2000.org

I'll keep looking for 4.2.1 but it took nearly one whole morning to locate the above website that still had 3.1.
It's in the SOH library as well.

For those who are new to Thomas' Draken... it's very immersive and requires a bit getting used to. Have fun.
 
unfortunately, that one is 3.1 i think based on the file size. Simvation has 4.0 which has non functional mirrors, no joystick model, and a rougher, untextured top part of the canopy
 
SwiftKift said:
unfortunately, that one is 3.1 i think based on the file size. Simvation has 4.0 which has non functional mirrors, no joystick model, and a rougher, untextured top part of the canopy
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You told me that you had other versions, if so, please upload them with the text of the EULA in the zip file.
 
The only 2 versions I have (and the only 2 versions available online to my knowledge) are 3.1 and 4.0. I got 3.1 from https://www.allflightmods.com/microsoft-flight-simulator-x/fsx-saab-35-draken-package/, and 4.0 from https://simviation.com/1/download-file?file=J35-Draken.zip&fileId=46085 .

All my knowledge of the 4.1.2 version come from around 4 youtube videos that feature it, and it seems that the payware 5.0 version of the draken is completely lost to time with 0 youtube videos on it.

The EULAs say they are freeware but not public domain. The new 2026 version of the EULA states "This EULA was updated on 24 April 2026. The following changes apply to all versions of Draken that were covered by earlier versions of the EULA." which I assume also applies to 4.0 and 3.1. Here is a snippet from the 4.0 EULA, which is almost exactly the same as the 3.1 EULA.

"You may not distribute DRAKEN or make it available for download without the written permission of BOOKMARK. You may not include DRAKEN, or any individual files taken from it, in another archive or compilation without the written permission of BOOKMARK. When creating and distributing additional textures (“repaints”) you may include the original textures from DRAKEN provided that the creator of the original work is credited. You may not use DRAKEN for commercial purposes, including but not limited to charging a fee for its use, without the written permission of BOOKMARK."
 
I've uploaded the ex freeware FSX Bookmark SAAB Draken version 4.1.2 to the resources section. I also have the ex payware Swedish version 5.1.2 and Austrian version 1.1 in my FSX files library. According to the updated April 2026 EULA these are also ok to share so will upload in the near future.
 
So, my questions is this - since someone has decided that uploading the ex-Bookmark Simulations Draken files is acceptable, what should happen to the EULA contained in those files ? My point being that the v3.1 file uploaded yesterday still contains an EULA that explicitly forbids the distribution and hosting of Thomas' files anywhere but his own site (which is of course now defunct).

Yes, I know that there is an updated EULA on what is left of Thomas' website, but surely if we are going to contravene the EULA in the uploaded files, then something should be done to make it known to any downloader that the EULA inside those files no longer applies and that an updated version has been issued.
 
In the Staff forum I made the request that the latest EULA from the Bookmark website that grants upload permissions to any site should be included as a 'read me' text file in any package simply because websites can disappear (FS.com anyone :banghead: ).

If the latest EULA (which supersedes all previous versions) is included with the download as a text file then there can be no doubt about the status of the upload.

Somebody obviously jumped the gun before the Staff could make an official announcement requiring the latest EULA to be a part of the download package.

As I see it we now have two options going forward:

(1) The original uploader (whoever that is as I haven't checked who uploaded it yet) can add the latest EULA as a text file to the package themselves (everyone has the ability to edit their own uploads that are already in the library).

OR

(2) The Library Staff will have to add the required text file themselves.

Either way that new text file MUST be part of the download package if the file is to be available in the Library.
 
Larry,
Thank you for that confirmation - in fact, the EULA in the already uploaded file is not a simple text file but a part of the "Flight Manual" .PDF file. Perhaps this fact should be noted in the copy of the updated EULA that will be added to the file,
Ro
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