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DoughBree L-39C (FSX)

Thanks for the conversion work Bjoern:encouragement: I'm one of the crowd who can't really justify buying the payware L39 but this one will fit the bill very nicely. Looks better 'in sim' than the pictures suggest too;) I'm seeing the smoke effect flicker constantly but that's a minor detail.

ATB
DaveB:)
 
Bjoern,

Great initial functional checkflight, agree completely almost payware quality and smooth framerates on my machine. Flight dynamics seem close, got her to spin and recover with no issues.

Are there any FS9 based repaints?
 
I want to assign functions to some of the inoperable switches. Planned so far is: Nav, strobe and beacon light, NAV-GPS, AP master, ALT, HDG, NAV, COM1 xmit, COM2 xmit.
Any more ideas for switch functions?



DaveB said:
I'm seeing the smoke effect flicker constantly but that's a minor detail.
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That's what it's supposed to do (heat blur) as Vit implemented it that way. Same for the condensation clouds.



Victory103 said:
Are there any FS9 based repaints?
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Flightsim has some.
 
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Originally Posted by DaveB
I'm seeing the smoke effect flicker constantly but that's a minor detail.



That's what it's supposed to do (heat blur) as Vit implemented it that way. Same for the condensation clouds.
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Ah.. ok. I can just about see what it's supposed to be given that I now know what it's supposed to be! Can it be removed or would that be sacrilege? If it can't.. I'm happy to live with it.;)

EDIT: Having looked at the model in MCX.. I see that effect is part of the model. Never mind.

ATB
DaveB:)
 
I can't recall ever liking any 'modelled' exhaust effect preferring to adapt smoke and lights to depict what is typically.....smoke and light...;)

I had a closer look at my 'Thunderbirds' paint....it's about 5 years old...and pretty ordinary....I probably lost interest in putting effort in as it had the port-over crappy glass. This new remodelling might inspire me to have a better 'go'...;)
 
DaveB said:
Ah.. ok. I can just about see what it's supposed to be given that I now know what it's supposed to be! Can it be removed or would that be sacrilege? If it can't.. I'm happy to live with it.;)

EDIT: Having looked at the model in MCX.. I see that effect is part of the model. Never mind.

ATB
DaveB:)
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Same here Dave, I kinda figured that's what it's supposed to be, but when folks start wondering exactly what an effect is "supposed" to be and how you can get rid of it. . . . .lol. . .it's not a success. Nothing on you Bjoern, it's just a bit funky looking.
 
Here's a deal:
Someone supply me with an exhaust effect or engine smoke effect (RPM-dependant) and I'll kick the "heat blur" out.
 
Copy-paste of what I was using prior to this model updating....

[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit
light.0 = 3, 1.80, -15.55, -0.62, fx_navred
light.1 = 3, 1.80, 15.55, -0.62, fx_navgre
light.2 = 3, -19.45, 0.00, 9.95, fx_navwhi
light.3 = 4, 11.00, 1.50, -1.50, fx_vclight
light.4 = 4, 11.00, -1.50, -1.50, fx_vclight
// Afterburner effects which work correctly....with 2 stage burner toggle
light.5 = 2, -15.50, 0.00, 0.75, fx_JAFO_St1 // 20% throttle ring
light.6 = 1, -15.60, 0.00, 0.75, fx_JAFO_St2 // 50% throttle burner
light.7 = 7, 2.0, 0.0, -2.50, fx_ALPHA_F105_Vapour // Vapor stream from intakes
[SMOKESYSTEM]
smoke.0 = -25.00, 0.00, 0.75, fx_RAZBAM_Smoke1
smoke.1 = -30.00, 0.00, 0.75, fx_RAZBAM_Smoke1

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Some of the model textures are altered as this new ver doesn't do the 'chrome' the old one did..;)
 
There's a slight drawback with that Jafo.. I don't have the ALPHA_F105_Vapour or JAFO_ST1 and ST2 FX files:untroubled: Is there a control gauge for ST1 and ST2 'cause I don't have that either.

I think the 'built-in' effect probably hits FR's too though not by a huge amount. It could be that the on/off effect makes it look like a stutter where none exists. Anyhoo.. to see it gone would be great;)
ATB
DaveB:)
 
DaveB said:
There's a slight drawback with that Jafo.. I don't have the ALPHA_F105_Vapour or JAFO_ST1 and ST2 FX files:untroubled: Is there a control gauge for ST1 and ST2 'cause I don't have that either.

I think the 'built-in' effect probably hits FR's too though not by a huge amount. It could be that the on/off effect makes it look like a stutter where none exists. Anyhoo.. to see it gone would be great;)
ATB
DaveB:)
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The Alpha-vapour was from their F105 ...for the wing-root 'glove', and the 'Jafo' ones are just mine set to light up at 'appropriate' throttle openings via some xml gauges in the panel...stuff I've adapted for lots of planes I use.

Main thing is...all the co-ords are already done...so if the 'modelled' effect were to be deleted there can be an easy alternative...I'd just upload the appropriate 'bits'....along with the 2D panel itself...;)
 
Took all of 2 seconds...but here's the same skin...with my burner and smoke...in this new model...as mentioned...I've lost the chrome...;)

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Jafo said:
The Alpha-vapour was from their F105 ...for the wing-root 'glove', and the 'Jafo' ones are just mine set to light up at 'appropriate' throttle openings via some xml gauges in the panel...stuff I've adapted for lots of planes I use.

Main thing is...all the co-ords are already done...so if the 'modelled' effect were to be deleted there can be an easy alternative...I'd just upload the appropriate 'bits'....along with the 2D panel itself...;)
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Oh yeah.. no doubting it can be done and/or hidden. Looking at the 'use' restrictions Bjoern posted.. I don't see anything to suggest that the native haze effect can't be removed.. all it needs is for someone to remove it. As long as credit is given and the model remains freeware.. job done me thinks:untroubled:

The author had the right idea trying to simulate heat haze though as I'm pretty certain that's all you see out of the jetpipe anyway. They don't smoke much and there's no heat ring either though the effect is nice and adds a bit of interest. TBH.. to see the original effect removed would be enough for me but each to their own;)

ATB
DaveB:)
 
It's just 'bling' for the deaf...so they know the engine's running...;)

...and if it burns...it smokes...;)
 
Yes indeed! I wasn't suggesting they don't smoke.. just that they don't smoke very much. Compare an L39 to an F86 and the L39 is very definitely clean:biggrin-new: That's a bonus with the F86 at airshows. While you may lose the aircraft visually from time to time.. you'll never lose it's smoke trail;)

ATB
DaveB:)
 
Phantoms...86s....Thuds...707s.....they came from a time when smoking was still 'sexy'....and hadn't yet become 'a health hazard'......;)
 
Oh.. I agree entirely:jump:

EDIT: Add the VC10 (and more) to that list. The VC10 was still very sexy right up to the end.. despite her smoking habit;)
smokin10.jpg


ATB
DaveB:)
 
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Jafo said:
Copy-paste of what I was using prior to this model updating....

[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit
light.0 = 3, 1.80, -15.55, -0.62, fx_navred
light.1 = 3, 1.80, 15.55, -0.62, fx_navgre
light.2 = 3, -19.45, 0.00, 9.95, fx_navwhi
light.3 = 4, 11.00, 1.50, -1.50, fx_vclight
light.4 = 4, 11.00, -1.50, -1.50, fx_vclight
// Afterburner effects which work correctly....with 2 stage burner toggle
light.5 = 2, -15.50, 0.00, 0.75, fx_JAFO_St1 // 20% throttle ring
light.6 = 1, -15.60, 0.00, 0.75, fx_JAFO_St2 // 50% throttle burner
light.7 = 7, 2.0, 0.0, -2.50, fx_ALPHA_F105_Vapour // Vapor stream from intakes
[SMOKESYSTEM]
smoke.0 = -25.00, 0.00, 0.75, fx_RAZBAM_Smoke1
smoke.1 = -30.00, 0.00, 0.75, fx_RAZBAM_Smoke1
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Had to remove all this ^ as the burner shows with the engine shut down, I enjoy the plane and made some nice thumbnails for all the textures. :encouragement::adoration:

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DaveB said:
Oh.. I agree entirely:jump:

EDIT: Add the VC10 (and more) to that list. The VC10 was still very sexy right up to the end.. despite her smoking habit;)
smokin10.jpg


ATB
DaveB:)
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DE-RAIL TOPIC-Appology

STILL HARD to UNDERSTAND why almost all the rear engine plane died.Is better with less long gear legs,lighter and less noisy.And yes there is that stall problem of the high elevator.But how many planes really crashed becuase of that

Is it purely fashion or any real reason behind ?

Roland
 
gray eagle said:
Had to remove all this ^ as the burner shows with the engine shut down, I enjoy the plane and made some nice thumbnails for all the textures.
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gray eagle....you need the xml gauges in the panel.cfg as well to control when the effects occur.
I only posted the lights entry to indicate how I'd already set myself effects without something coded into the model...;)
The actual setting would have the 'lights out' at anything less than 20% throttle...;)
 
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