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Essex Class Carrier US Navy modification SCB-27A and SCB-27C

klnowak said:
That will be no problem. The set of carriers will also come with an empty deck version (without any planes). In this version there will be no helicopter in the air. You will get all the aircraft models that you can see right now (and the nex different planes for other deck configuration) seperatly with this carriers. No problem to put them to all places you want.... i use ModelConverterX for this duty.
The crew is done in one peace till now....if i delete the deckcrew there will be no crew on the bridge an no crew at the sides of the ship. Will have a look to change this later.

And here some new shots with F9-F Panther wings up in right position. Some of these planes are without pilots now. Was not very realistic that every plane on deck has his pilot in cockpit.

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greetings
Klaus
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Awesome - nice touch with the mixed (occupied / vacant) cockpits. The folded wings look good too. Those are the details that help make the carrier experience come to life.

Regarding the full-deck version, will it have the helicopter "hard code" or separate? Because I'll use it likely the most, and would still like to place the helicopter wherever I'd like, likely on the starboard side, etc. I will use the empty deck from time to time, but these days, I really prefer the full deck, and with all the crew details you're putting into it, even more so.

Many thanks!

dl
 
Lovely work -

a bit of insight into the F9F Panther and its wing fold angle. The tip tanks had to be gravity fueled by hand. They had a special GSE ladder that attached to the top of the wing so a refueling "grape" could carry a hose nozzle up to the filler cap to fill the tank. Long live pressure fueling!
 
Just wondering if Uss lake Champlain CVS-39 was on the hit list as it was the last straight deck carrier in the US navy and the only carrier to have the scb-27A but not scb-125. Would also give us a place to fly Milton's s2 tracker from. BTW love what you've done so far I'm currently working on Collins Colossus class as commando carrier circa 1956 USS_Lake_Champlain_(CVS-39)_underway_in_February_1965_(USN_1114106).jpg
 
delta_lima said:
Regarding the full-deck version, will it have the helicopter "hard code" or separate? Because I'll use it likely the most, and would still like to place the helicopter wherever I'd like, likely on the starboard side, etc.
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Simple answer to that. You can take the version empty deck with crew and place every aircraft (or helicopter) you want at every place you want by using ModelConverterX. All plane and helicopter will be seperatly in the complet package.

Did new aircraft tonight and (as sample) a new deck layout.

Vought F7U Cutlass (also models with or without pilot)

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Next step will be a short run in FSX and then i will try to make a night texturing for the ships (hate to do texturing, because i`m a stupid beginner in that.... :banghead: )

greetings
Klaus
 
klnowak said:
Simple answer to that. You can take the version empty deck with crew and place every aircraft (or helicopter) you want at every place you want by using ModelConverterX. All plane and helicopter will be seperatly in the complet package.

Next step will be a short run in FSX and then i will try to make a night texturing for the ships (hate to do texturing, because i`m a stupid beginner in that.... :banghead: )

greetings
Klaus
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Thanks Klaus!

I maybe miscommunicated - I personally like your static aircraft placement just the way you have it, I was just asking about the H-5. But no problem - I think I understand now.

Thanks for adding in the F7F and AJ - I think it's a first for a USN carrier group specifically set in the '55 era period. It'll be a nice home for the RAZBAM F2H-2P (which by the way, works perfect in P3DV4.5!! :wiggle:) as well as the Virtavia Cutlass. The Virtavia F4D Skyray doesn't quite have a home yet, but maybe in the future.

Again, this is an amazing project, and other than the early angled deck SCB-125 conversions, there is now an almost unbroken chain of major USN carrier class/types from the post-war to present.

Thanks again, Klaus - these are good times to be in FSX/P3D.

dl
 
A bit off-topic - found this interesting video on Essex class boats in the slightly later period to this project - 1957, where they're now almost all angled deck boats.


At around the 5.10 mark, and again at 9.33, you see an early IFOLS setup - but not on port side, as we now know, but aft of the island, on the starboard side. I had never seen that before. Clearly a transitional / testing cycle, given the presence of an "NATC" marked A-3 Skywarrior, and a rather mixed menagerie of aircraft and paints.

Sigh for an FJ-4 Fury, but I digress ....

Anyway, thanks for the 1955 era Essex - a fascinating and exciting period you're covering in this SBC-27A/C refit project.

dl
 
An FJ-3 OK?

I am not stealing the thread because I am just started but A.F. Scrubby Scrubbs has an FJ-3 Fury that is quite nice that I just found to download for FSX. I am doing a repaint or few for it because his VF-154 was never actively deployed from the information I spent hours looking for so I am repainting it and also doing a gray texture (his is Navy Blue) I will post a new thread here at SOH as I get something done to photograph. Now back to the carrier which I like all of you am so eagerly awaiting and so grateful to Klaus for all his efforts.
 
Littel progress is done. All daylight texturing for all carriers of this class is done. So all ships got their name and own numbers. Some little different paintings on the bridge is done also for some ships.

Just now i`m playing arround with a little future. In landing configuration outfit (till now there is just one model) you will see a barrier on deck. Did this barrier yesterday evening just as a quick thing. Not the best... but i think for know it is ok. Till now it is just static. But i`ve seen carrier in FSX whitch can move this barrier by using a gauge on your plane. Must have a look on witch way the designers maneged to do so.... perhaps i will try to animate the barrier on carriers too. (if i`m able to understand what the other designers did to get this result).

Just some pictures....

CV-19 USS_Hancock SCB-27C in landing-configuration.

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and landing on her in FSX...

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Barrier Is Cool

If you could animate the barrier that would be a first that I have seen on a flight sim carrier. In real life, I only saw the barrier rigged once on USS America, CVA-66 in Vietnam since it is only used if the aircraft landing is unable to hook an arresting cable. I like challenges too, though and it would be really special to have the ability to activate it.

This image is from my 1970 Cruise Book

 
In that little video your can see that the barrier is up for every landing plane. Think thats done on every carrier what does not have an angled deck.

By the way .... nice photo from Phantom. Realy exiciting.:applause:

greetings
Klaus.
 
From Wikipedia

Landing on flight decks[edit]

See also: Arresting gear

A barricade is raised on USS Ronald Reagan. Barricade usage is a rare emergency measure.​

Landing arrangements were originally primitive, with aircraft simply being "caught" by a team of deck-hands who would run out from the wings of the flight deck and grab a part of the aircraft to slow it down. This dangerous procedure was only possible with early aircraft of low weight and landing speed. Arrangements of nets served to catch the aircraft should the latter fail, although this was likely to cause structural damage.
Landing larger and faster aircraft on a flight deck was made possible through the use of arresting cables installed on the flight deck and a tailhook installed on the aircraft. Early carriers had a very large number of arrestor cables or "wires". Current U.S. Navy carriers have three or four steel cables stretched across the deck at 20 ft (6.1 m) intervals which bring a plane, traveling at 150 mph (240 km/h), to a complete stop in about 320 ft (98 m).
The cables are set to stop each aircraft at the same place on the deck, regardless of the size or weight of the plane. During World War II, large net barriers would be erected across the flight deck so aircraft could be parked on the forward part of the deck and recovered on the after part. This allowed increased complements but resulted in a lengthened launch and recovery cycle as aircraft were shuffled around the carrier to allow take-off or landing operations.
A barricade is an emergency system used if a normal arrestment cannot be made. Barricade webbing engages the wings of the landing aircraft, and momentum is transferred to the arresting engine.

As your video shows it was erected for each recovery during WWII and after in Korea. Need to see if we can find some uTube video of recoveries in the late 1950s.
 
A barricade is only rigged in case of emergency on ALL angled deck carriers. Emergencies include landing gear or hook problems or emergency fuel state, also erratic pilot performance (very rare). Otherwise, it is only rigged for drills and maintenance.

Straight deck carriers always raised a barricade for each landing, but that barricade was mechanically and physically totally different than modern ones and for essentially an entirely different purpose.
 
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Just finished up repainting the Panther and the H-5. (H-5 is using the original paint)
Klaus if you would like to use these I can zip them up and send them to you, just PM me.
I can also change the tail code for different squadrons if needed.

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Joe
 
Only Curiosity

I don't remember if you said that the elevator works or not. These are so fantastic already if not that's fine. You have put so much work in them already for us. Don't delay the release. Deck lights at night? You said that you were going to do the night textures.
 
Hey Richard,
I started adding nite lighting but got distracted doing the repaints. Here is a pic as she stands now. Not
to happy with the way it's casting light below the elevator, but don't know if that can be fixed. There are
I assume spot lights on the island (can't find any pics or info to confirm) but they sure do look like lights
so I'm putting them to use.


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Joe
 
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