F-22 Progress Images

[Rezabrya]

Make the flight model as accurate as possible and I will love it.

 

[centuryseries]

The only folks who'd know if the flight model is accurate would be real life F-22 pilots

 

[VFR Alexander]

Mr. Steve J. "Roadburner440,"

1. The F-22 use pilot voice recognition to help in the manage of its systems. I use a product called "Speech Buddy" to do the same in the FlightSim; Cuts down on the workload in the cockpit with both pushing keyboard buttons or moving the mouse. It ONLY requires one thing of the developers model:

That there is a "Key Press" (Keyboard shortcut) event for each and every button/toggle switch feature onboard the VC; enabling a "send Keys" function method to be performed by the software when a voice command is initiated.

2. Complete VMS and NAVIGATION avionics package with HMDS.
3. 4096 UHDT VC/External textures.
4. Inclusion of this too HERE, if possible.

If you can make these possible, I would really like that for this model.

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The F-22 doesn't use voice control, nor does it have a helmet mounted sight.

 

[X_eidos2]

Regarding the idea of having key press commands for every switch in the F-22 VC. I think it would be possible for some of the basic functions, but I think you would quickly run out of options for anything that was a custom animation. I don't think many people would want to re-assign more than one or two key commands if any to get things to work, because what works in one plane wouldn't work in the next. I'm currently working on a very simple VC and I'm looking for just 3 key press commands that I might borrow from functions that this plane will never use to activate 3 custom switches. As I look I have to keep reminding myself that each person uses FS differently. While I never do much with radios, others might use them all the time. While someone is tapping keys to adjust a frequency, I don't think they want to suddenly find themselves launching a salvo of rockets. Even in my simple VC I have over 60 custom animations. I can only imagine that in a F-22 cockpit they would have a whole lot more.

 

[Chris Sykes]

James with regards to the speach regocnition, if you have lots of systems/switches you soon run our of "Key Commands" and from i understand developers use other methods to run annimations etc etc when this happens, therefor if its not got a "Key Command" then you can use the speach recognition software to make it work...

BTW the Eurofighter Typhoon has speach recognition aswell!

 

[JamesChams]

The F-22 doesn't use voice control, nor does it have a helmet mounted sight.

Mr. "VFR Alexander,"
Its NOT common knowledge, but the pilots DO use it; so its there. I've also got a DVD documentary set from www.topics-ent.com called "Fighter Pilots" - In the F-15 DVD, there is a segment about the F-22's VC&C. HMDS isn't on all of them so, you are "somewhat" correct.
Also, this Pilot in this video calls "FOX" the voice command for the release of the weapon. check it out here: [YOUTUBE]8QQozXfXSxU&fmt=18[/YOUTUBE]

Gents,

Regarding my request for Speech Recognition:
I am aware of the limitations, I am ONLY requesting this for pertenant features, though. And, its about time developers explored the "Potential" of maximizing the capabilities of "features" in FSX. Its frankly getting a little lame just taking out the latest jets with steam gauges and absolutely NOTHING NEW about its abilities or actual flight charactistics.

And, the F-22 (like the JSF) has features that most modern aircraft have yet to compete with. So, it would be nice to see those features in the VC as well. Why else, as a customer, would I spend another $30-$40 (USD) for another product that does NOTHING differently or "Better" than the freeware one; because its got MORE gauges? NO, I want something that is more "real" to life and you can actual navigate with; do a mission or two for its type with; and have some fun exploring its flight envelope (Thrust Vectoring - Backflips, etc.). And, it should look like a $100 Milion (US) dollar jet with 4096 Textures both in the VC and outside (exterior) for the whole "emmersion-experience" in the sim.

BTW: If your an FS developer on the F-22 and live in/near Ohio, Wright-Patterson AFB, leiason officers will allow you a close-up look at them if you contact them and do the necessaries, and it will probably cost. Check Food 4 Less Ad and Food City Ad.

That's the deal for me.

 

[XLR8]

WOW ! This is great ! I have been wanting this bird for a long time.I have the Alphasim F-22,but its not real good but it's better than nothing.

Two things that I would like to see ! An FSX sp1 version,and maybe a clear HUD option (not green ).

I know people who work at Lockheed that might give some info,they tell me stuff all the time.

 

[MenendezDiego]

F/A-22's James? LoL

F-22A

 

[JamesChams]

F/A-22's James? LoL

F-22A

FYI: That's what is WAS called during its development... but, I've change it in the post so that "jerks" don't find more reasons to pick on every single post I make.

EDIT: Quote from From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"The aircraft was variously designated F-22 and F/A-22 during the years prior to formally entering USAF service in December 2005 as the F-22A."

 

[JamesChams]

WOW ! This is great ! I have been wanting this bird for a long time.I have the Alphasim F-22,but its not real good but it's better than nothing....

I have the AlphaSim FS9 version, too, and its a "Toy" but not in a bad way ; IMO it could use a modern FSX fix and look.

I know people who work at Lockheed that might give some info,they tell me stuff all the time....

Yeah, just keep quite with what and who you tell it to or they'll have you shot. (just kidding)

Later!

 

[XLR8]

I have the AlphaSim FS9 version, too, and its a "Toy" but not in a bad way ; IMO it could use a modern FSX fix and look.

When Alphasim had there forums up and running. I had asked about a FSX version. I was told it was 80% complete. But I think things have changed over there. Thats been a good year or so.

Yeah, just keep quite with what and who you tell it to or they'll have you shot. (just kidding)

Later!

I worked out there before getting laid off. I still talk to people.

 

[falcon409]

I am attempting to get back in contact with a pilot who flew with the 457th and has since transferred to Elmendorf AFB to fly the F-22. We made many deployments together and one of those took us to Tyndall AFB for a two week stint flying against the f-15's. Every morning, the F-22's would taxi by our F-16's close enough that we could count the teeth in the pilots mouth as he smiled and waved, lol. They were not using HMD's at that time. It is my recollection from talking to others from Lockheed that the HMD was on the drawing board but was scrapped for the time being due to budget constraints with the understanding that it could be resurrected sometime down the road for future blocks. I believe the year 2011 was a target.

Voice activated commands. . . .not too sure about that either. I heard the almost undetectable "fox" in that video, which neither proves nor disproves the assumption. All it tells me is that the pilot gave an audible "fox" to indicate a missle release, just as we have heard on many other hud camera videos during live fire exercises or actual combat.

I'll see what "Nato" has to say, since he flies them.

 

[JamesChams]

Gentlemen,

I welcome any input (that's accurate for the actual aircraft; wheather it be a current service Sqd. or development versions) to the developers for this project. Go for it!

I would like to fly this as close as "FSX possible."



EDIT: Except for "drama" inputs.

 

[MenendezDiego]

this should help...

http://198.65.10.229/DID/080116-F-1234P-002.jpg

 

[dhl1986]

I have a ton of high-res photos of the Raptor I taken at airshows over the past couple years. Let me know if you think they would help.

 

[falcon409]

Wow, how about we check the image size before we post from now on? Try to keep it page size and not wall size, lol.

 

[Roadburner440]

If there are any photos that wouldn't be consider classified we would be more than happy to get what we can. This is probably the hardest undertaking that we have had to do as far as lack of information. Key things would be the avionics screens so we can accurately represent what is supposed to be there. The one above is a nice picture. We have various materials but I am a firm believer that you can never have to much material to make it right.

 

[dhl1986]

If there are any photos that wouldn't be consider classified we would be more than happy to get what we can. This is probably the hardest undertaking that we have had to do as far as lack of information. Key things would be the avionics screens so we can accurately represent what is supposed to be there. The one above is a nice picture. We have various materials but I am a firm believer that you can never have to much material to make it right.

Unfortunately I don't have any pictures of the cockpit (if they let me that close to an F-22, I'm not sure I would be able to resist trying to steal it) - All the Raptors on display at the airshows I have been to were protected by FOD barricades and had two MPs standing watch. The best I could offer are high-res shots of the outside of the plane, and a few of it in action with some vapor.

 

[JamesChams]

If there are any photos that wouldn't be consider classified we would be more than happy to get what we can.... We have various materials but I am a firm believer that you can never have to much material to make it right.

Mr. Steve J. "Roadburner440,"

I assume you at least have these ones (Pic.'s below)? And, this http://www.geocities.com/jiyangc/cockpit.htm pic.'s & info., too?

And please take note of the following statements in the above mentioned website:
It is the first baseline Night Vision Goggle (NVG) compatible cockpit.
[SIZE=+1]It has designed-in growth capability for helmet-mounted systems.[/SIZE]

and, this hint about the VC&C, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-22_Raptor#Upgrades

"The leading features of the F-22 cockpit include simple and rapid start-up, highly developed HMI, (Voice user interfaces, which accept input and provide output by generating voice prompts. The user input is made by pressing keys or buttons, or responding verbally to the interface). Direct Voice Input (DVI) is a style of Human-Machine Interaction "HMI" in which the user makes voice commands to issue instructions to the machine."

But, I found another confirmation for the VC&C as a requirement for the A.T.F. (i.e. F-22) on an unclassified document here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11607526/F22-Raptor-Americas-Next-Lethal-War-Machine (on the bottom of Page 3)
This document, as a whole, contains a lot of NECESSARY Cockpit avionics and systems pic.'s and technical info.; it would be worth the read, IHMO.

And I found another quote (Dated on Dec '2007), at the bottom of this article: (http://mae.pennnet.com/display_article/315296/32/ARTCL/none/none/1/The-F-35-Joint-Strike-Fighter-to-be-controlled-via-voice-commands/)
"The F-35 Lightning II is scheduled for initial operation in 2008. If the speech-recognition system proves successful on the F-35, it is likely to be applied to other aircraft, such as the F-22 Raptor and unmanned aerial vehicles."

These next two appear to be from a simulator of sorts:

And I would like to see this effect modeled: "The Sonic Boom Vapor" and an "abrupt stall"

And in keeping with A2A's "Female companion" theme; here is 'Trix' Jamieson

First female F-22 Raptor pilot 'Trix' with impressions of her oxygen mask still showing in her face after high-G Manuevers

If all this is NOT too much to ask...

Also... a couple of vid.'s from informed sources and a flight Stall with HUD info.

[YOUTUBE]fBUmRd4hKlg&NR=1&fmt=18[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]qphv_3F4UVA&NR=1&fmt=18[/YOUTUBE]

OK; I'm done!

 

[JamesChams]

And, here are a few Vid.'s with great audio (cone) sound and aerodynamics for flight .air files.

[YOUTUBE]Gp9wuqfyOwM&NR=1&fmt=18[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]jlgVEFs3SMs&NR=1&fmt=18[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]_Kq43OaTeOY&NR=1&fmt=18[/YOUTUBE]

OK, NOW, I'm done.