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F1 2011: Chinese GP

Wing_Z

Charter Member 2011
Another one to watch in real time in this hemisphere!

Qualifying

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Ferry if you want to put up your tidier version I'll take this out as it's just a screenshot

Now, how about this notion:
There are 4 groups of drivers in this F1 season

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Not sure what happened to Webber, I missed qualifying!!:173go1:
At least I'll have the TV set up and running by race time Sunday.
Moving house is such fun alone ......not!!

Bloody KERS again!!
Vitaly Petrov was Renault’s lead runner on 1m 36.098s in seventh, ahead of Adrian Sutil’s Force India on 1m 36.125s, Mercedes’ Michael Schumacher on 1m 36.141s and Force India’s Paul di Resta on 1m 36.370s. Nick Heidfeld didn’t go off this time, but was down in 11th in the second Renault with a lap of 1m 36.404s, then came the evenly matched Saubers of Kamui Kobayashi and Sergio Perez on 1m 36.582s and 1m 36.596s. Sebastien Buemi was again Toro Rosso’s leader in 14th with 1m 36.717s, with Jaime Alguersuari 16th on 1m 36.953s. Between them, Mark Webber was stranded on 1m 36.896s after technical issues prevented him doing the final runs.


2011 FORMULA 1 UBS CHINESE GRAND PRIX


<table class="raceResults" summary="" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr> <th>Pos</th> <th>No</th> <th>Driver</th> <th>Team</th> <th>Q1</th><th>Q2</th><th>Q3</th> <th>Laps</th> </tr> <tr> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Sebastian Vettel</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">RBR-Renault</td> <td>1:35.674</td><td> 1:34.776</td><td> 1:33.706</td> <td>14</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2</td> <td>4</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Jenson Button</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">McLaren-Mercedes</td> <td>1:35.924</td><td> 1:34.662</td><td> 1:34.421</td> <td>13</td> </tr> <tr> <td>3</td> <td>3</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Lewis Hamilton</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">McLaren-Mercedes</td> <td>1:36.091</td><td> 1:34.486</td><td> 1:34.463</td> <td>11</td> </tr> <tr> <td>4</td> <td>8</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Nico Rosberg</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Mercedes</td> <td>1:35.272</td><td> 1:35.850</td><td> 1:34.670</td> <td>19</td> </tr> <tr> <td>5</td> <td>5</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Fernando Alonso</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Ferrari</td> <td>1:35.389</td><td> 1:35.165</td><td> 1:35.119</td> <td>18</td> </tr> <tr> <td>6</td> <td>6</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Felipe Massa</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Ferrari</td> <td>1:35.478</td><td> 1:35.437</td><td> 1:35.145</td> <td>18</td> </tr> <tr> <td>7</td> <td>19</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Jaime Alguersuari</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">STR-Ferrari</td> <td>1:36.133</td><td> 1:35.563</td><td> 1:36.158</td> <td>16</td> </tr> <tr> <td>8</td> <td>15</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Paul di Resta</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Force India-Mercedes</td> <td>1:35.702</td><td> 1:35.858</td><td> 1:36.190</td> <td>17</td> </tr> <tr> <td>9</td> <td>18</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Sebastien Buemi</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">STR-Ferrari</td> <td>1:36.110</td><td> 1:35.500</td><td> 1:36.203</td> <td>16</td> </tr> <tr> <td>10</td> <td>10</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Vitaly Petrov</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Renault</td> <td>1:35.370</td><td> 1:35.149</td><td> No time</td> <td>11</td> </tr> <tr> <td>11</td> <td>14</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Adrian Sutil</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Force India-Mercedes</td> <td>1:36.092</td><td> 1:35.874</td><td>
</td> <td>14</td> </tr> <tr> <td>12</td> <td>17</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Sergio Perez</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Sauber-Ferrari</td> <td>1:36.046</td><td> 1:36.053</td><td>
</td> <td>16</td> </tr> <tr> <td>13</td> <td>16</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Kamui Kobayashi</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Sauber-Ferrari</td> <td>1:36.147</td><td> 1:36.236</td><td>
</td> <td>11</td> </tr> <tr> <td>14</td> <td>7</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Michael Schumacher</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Mercedes</td> <td>1:35.508</td><td> 1:36.457</td><td>
</td> <td>16</td> </tr> <tr> <td>15</td> <td>11</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Rubens Barrichello</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Williams-Cosworth</td> <td>1:35.911</td><td> 1:36.465</td><td>
</td> <td>15</td> </tr> <tr> <td>16</td> <td>9</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Nick Heidfeld</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Renault</td> <td>1:35.910</td><td> 1:36.611</td><td>
</td> <td>11</td> </tr> <tr> <td>17</td> <td>12</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Pastor Maldonado</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Williams-Cosworth</td> <td>1:36.121</td><td> 1:36.956</td><td>
</td> <td>17</td> </tr> <tr> <td>18</td> <td>2</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Mark Webber</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">RBR-Renault</td> <td>1:36.468</td><td>
</td><td>
</td> <td>8</td> </tr> <tr> <td>19</td> <td>20</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Heikki Kovalainen</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Lotus-Renault</td> <td>1:37.894</td><td>
</td><td>
</td> <td>7</td> </tr> <tr> <td>20</td> <td>21</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Jarno Trulli</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Lotus-Renault</td> <td>1:38.318</td><td>
</td><td>
</td> <td>10</td> </tr> <tr> <td>21</td> <td>25</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Jerome d'Ambrosio</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Virgin-Cosworth</td> <td>1:39.119</td><td>
</td><td>
</td> <td>8</td> </tr> <tr> <td>22</td> <td>24</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Timo Glock</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Virgin-Cosworth</td> <td>1:39.708</td><td>
</td><td>
</td> <td>8</td> </tr> <tr> <td>23</td> <td>23</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Vitantonio Liuzzi</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">HRT-Cosworth</td> <td>1:40.212</td><td>
</td><td>
</td> <td>9</td> </tr> <tr> <td>24</td> <td>22</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Narain Karthikeyan</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">HRT-Cosworth</td> <td>1:40.445</td><td>
</td><td>
</td> <td>9</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="qualificationRule">
</td> <td class="qualificationRule">
</td> <td class="qualificationRule">Q1 107% Time</td> <td class="qualificationRule">
</td> <td class="qualificationRule">1:41.941</td> <td class="qualificationRule">
</td> <td class="qualificationRule">
</td> </tr></tbody></table>
 
Maybe Webber should have used the soft tire in his last run in stead of the harder ones..

Thanks for starting the thread Wing_Z! Left home this morning when qualifying was still in progress and only just got home.
 
It's great watching the weekend in real time, happening more and more as Bernie takes the circus East...
There's an iPhone app which pushes Live Timing so you're often ahead of the commentary!

I see my OP is now locked, maybe a mod can open it or just remove the first picture now Wombat has posted the list.

Q2 was worth seeing!
Petrov lost hydraulics and died on the track with a couple of minutes to go.
They red-flogged the session, which meant that just about everyone did not get their hot lap in.
The restart looked like a kart race, they lined up nose to tail in the pitlane, and had a dragrace to get some clear air, with 2m and 2 seconds to post a lap!
Webber had KERS issues, was on hard tyres as Ferry points out, and just generally needed a little more time than that to get it together.
18th on the grid, well we'll see some rapid passing.
 
At almost 2s a lap, that could make a big difference.
I went looking for the rules...
I knew this:
If a driver fails to use both specifications of dry-weather tyres during a (dry) race, they will be excluded from the results.
but I didn't know this:
If a (dry) race is suspended and can’t be restarted, and a driver has failed to use both specifications, 30 seconds will be added to the driver’s race time.

Who ends up where in final placings is getting a little complicated...
 
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Pts
1 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 56 Winner 3 25
2 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 56 +5.1 secs 1 18
3 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 56 +7.5 secs 18 15
4 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 56 +10.0 secs 2 12
5 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 56 +13.4 secs 4 10
6 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 56 +15.8 secs 6 8
7 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 56 +30.6 secs 5 6
8 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 56 +31.0 secs 14 4
9 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 56 +57.4 secs 10 2
10 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 56 +63.2 secs 13 1
11 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 56 +68.7 secs 8
12 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 56 +72.7 secs 16
13 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 56 +90.1 secs 15
14 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 56 +90.6 secs 9
15 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 55 +1 Lap 11
16 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 55 +1 Lap 19
17 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 55 +1 Lap 12
18 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 55 +1 Lap 17
19 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 55 +1 Lap 20
20 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 54 +2 Laps 21
21 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 54 +2 Laps 22
22 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth 54 +2 Laps 23
23 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 54 +2 Laps 24
Ret 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 9 Wheel 7 [/TABLE]

OK Lewis rightly delighted with the win, but Mark said it:
Really you shouldn't even bother to qualify, save your tyres for the race.
18th on the grid, to a podium finish!
Unbelievable...an exciting race.
 
Despite the gimmicks (KERS, the dumb wing flap etc) it actually ended up being a pretty entertaining race.
Probably Webber's best drive.
Coulthard made a really good point, if the FIA had retained the movable front wing it would at least allow drivers to balance the car.
Good drives by Button, Rosberg, Petrov and Paul di Resta.
:applause:
 
There's some new rule about where and when on the track the driver is allowed to activate the rear wing flap...:isadizzy: Excellent drive Webber, now about those starts.
 
The FIA decides where the wing CAN be activated - it becomes available when a car is within 1s of the one in front, and only becomes "live" over a predefined portion of the track.
All done electronically.
AS to Button - sorry, he got his dunce cap out on the race track, being passed first by his team mate then by Webber.
And if he didn't get it there, he 100% got it for attempting to get fresh tyres from the Red Bull pitbox!!
I sometimes think he's on strong recreational drugs.
 
So far the movable rear wing seems an actual good idea; there's more overtaking and it's easy to see when it's being used, unlike KERS or that movable front wing from last year.
Qualifying may lose some of the excitment though with Webber starting 18th but finishing third, only seven seconds behind the winner. Perhaps in Turkey we'll see the entire top ten do just one lap on hard tires in Q3 to save the softs for the race..

Great race today, well deserved win by Lewis, great race by Webber and plenty of overtaking on the track.
 
I don't think Webber's comment that qualifying was becoming irelevent with the new types of tyre.
All you need is a little weather and you still need to try and qualify up the front somewhere.
 
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