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gajit
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I think Ill pass as you can get so much more from other producers for less than that.
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Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.
Flight1 Citation Mustang out now!
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I think Ill pass as you can get so much more from other producers for less than that.
Any reports to be made about the framerate on a 'normal' or mainstream PC?
Just the same I recently reported on their forum. I get slightly better FPS than the PMDG MD-11, about 30 FPS in the VC and 35 everywhere else. System is E6700 2.66 ghz, 8600m GT 512mb, 3 GB ram.
Chuck_Jodry-VJPL
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An element involved in the cost of this model are the royalties paid to licence the use of the name Cessna , it was during the initial construction phase that most of the companies i work with received notice that Textron had decided to seek licensing fees through a second party , Lionheart has dealt with this company and i was surprised at the results when such a vast flexibility was demonstrated in its pricing structure, maybe Bill could reprise that one , there was clearly an opportunist at the end of the line. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
fficeffice" /><o></o>At all events the net result is there are now complications involved in doing Cessna's and expenses that were not there before , i wondered at the time if this state of affairs began with a request to get some sort of protection from competition by a 3PD or the Collection Agency pitched Textron , in any case the results are fewer and more expensive Cessna's.<o
></o>The product itself looks worth every cent, being aware of the amount of work involved and the personnel required i find the price as modest as was possible and representative of the quality i see in the screen captures , i wish the team every success with the Mustang . C.J
You guys have more money than brains. At $55 you pay twenty bucks more than all of Flight Simulator X cost you for one dinky little airplane.
It's better than 25% than a real P-51 would have cost me in 1947. You must money to throw around.
Thank goodness that your all single. A wife would have beat some sense into you.
It's better than 25% than a real P-51 would have cost me in 1947. You must money to throw around.
Thank goodness that your all single. A wife would have beat some sense into you.
difference being that FSX sells in the millions so they can afford to put the price low, if FSX planes sold as well as FSX did they'd be a lot cheaper ... and please stop useing the mustang 1947 excuse, $51,000 might not sound a lot for a plane now but rember the min wage then was around 40 cents an hour (now its nearly $7) and a house cost around $13,000! so for a mustang you could have brought yourself several houses!! .. doesnt make it sound so cheap now
Chuck_Jodry-VJPL
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" Thank goodness that your all single. A wife would have beat some sense into you."<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
When you are married it falls under the category of discretionary spending ... one does it discretely
BTW, FSX might sell a million copies by the end of its run, at the moment its closer to half that.
we should be able to get the figures at year end , i hope that releasing the gold edition helped .
When you are married it falls under the category of discretionary spending ... one does it discretely
BTW, FSX might sell a million copies by the end of its run, at the moment its closer to half that.
we should be able to get the figures at year end , i hope that releasing the gold edition helped .
I see the price as this:
I buy quite a few addons, many 20-30 dollars. Not many of those 20-30 dollar ones are still installed. For the price of two of those uninstalled rejects, you can have one beautifully done aircraft that you use often.
In this case if it ISN'T one of those beautifully done aircraft in your opinion, you can get a refund. Many developers don't even consider giving the customer that option.
I buy quite a few addons, many 20-30 dollars. Not many of those 20-30 dollar ones are still installed. For the price of two of those uninstalled rejects, you can have one beautifully done aircraft that you use often.
In this case if it ISN'T one of those beautifully done aircraft in your opinion, you can get a refund. Many developers don't even consider giving the customer that option.
wombat666
Administrator
I married for money, my wife can earn more in a month than I could in a year.
:isadizzy:
And it nice to have a highly qualified medical professional on hand!
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jrhoads
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One dinky little plane? It's all relative Diver. The F1Mustang delivers incredible complexity for a mear 55 bucks. Less than a dinner and a movie. Or in some peoples cases a carton of cigs and a case of beer. It is an extreme value for what is in this aircraft and what it takes to produce it which was 1.25 years by the way. If you are looking at it from a pure hobbiest point of you, then there are indeed many other offerings that will possibly give you more quantity for your 55 bucks, but doubtful better quality. Despite what some may think, we aint getting rich over here. You most likely have no idea what it costs in time and money to produce this level of aircraft. And by the way, this is 2008, not 1947.
Rant off! :mixedsmi:
Jim
Chuck_Jodry-VJPL
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"You may call it "discretionary spending". I call it telling a fib"
If we are going to be oldschool how about we call it a sin of omission instead , and bless the peacemaker ...
If we are going to be oldschool how about we call it a sin of omission instead , and bless the peacemaker ...
CodyValkyrie
Charter Member 2016
Some have experienced a unique crash for the G1000. Here is a link to the fix:
http://mustang.flight1.net/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=188
http://mustang.flight1.net/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=188
My problem is that I already have a screen FULL of planes I do not even fly.
I have simply bored with FSX and buying planes,sceneries ect is just a attempt to get that old "thrill" I use to get when I pushed that throttle forward.
I just have ran out of things to do!
Going from point A-B with make beleive passengers in the back just does not thrill me anymore.
I got tons of warbirds that have no teeth.
Now add on top of that a addon thats "on my system" really going to put a hurtin on the fps and have me back to the settings and sliders, I think I will pass.
I have simply bored with FSX and buying planes,sceneries ect is just a attempt to get that old "thrill" I use to get when I pushed that throttle forward.
I just have ran out of things to do!
Going from point A-B with make beleive passengers in the back just does not thrill me anymore.
I got tons of warbirds that have no teeth.
Now add on top of that a addon thats "on my system" really going to put a hurtin on the fps and have me back to the settings and sliders, I think I will pass.
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MCDesigns
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it started out interesting, we'll make sure it stays that way :d
Lets try not to get into an argument/discussion over the price point, it is what it is and whether you choose to spend that much on an addon or not is your choice. No need to be imposing 'your' belief system on those that think differently.
If the Cessna licensing deal plays a part in the price, be prepared to be spending more on many addons, period, no matter how much is stinks that Cessna went this route.
Personally I payed close to this for the AS Blackhawk and I am unable to use it because of how hard the frames are, but one day I'll upgrade and revisit it then. I know I will be getting this one soon, probably after Xmas
Cool thing is that Flight1 has a refund policy, so there is no reason you can't see how this works for yourself if you are so inclined. The quality is obviously there and coming from Flight1 it should be a winner!!
Looking forward to seeing the liveries any of our members come up, we have lots of talented painters for sure. :ernae:
txnetcop
Charter Member
Helldiver I understand where you are coming from and the dispensation of time you came from...depression era kids. At first glance it does seem like a lot but consider what we spent just getting equipment that will even run FSX. Most of us, in this hobby, buy a new computer just to run the current flight sim at reasonable frame rates. Yes, there are other benefits too but you can't really justify it. You do it because you love the hobby.
This is no different. I can't afford this jet either, but the quality is absolutely superb, a real cut above the many. I watched, as a beta tester, A2A build something that had never been done before in flight simulation with the B377. I doubt if Scott could justify the costs in developing the product in reality, but you spend the time, the money and the effort for realism for enjoyment of the hobby you love. The price may seem high with the Accusim Engine, but wow what an experience for us if you are into that sort of thing. I don't evne know if Scott recouped his costs to develop that fine product.
You buy a $55.00 Mustang for the same reason, because of your love for the hobby and to get as much realism as a less than $100 simulator will give you. It cost them a small fortune to develop it, I'd stake my life on that. It is foolish I guess, but it is fun and brings hours of enjoyment...how do you put a price on that? You ought to see what I spent keeping a Cessna 140 in the air, but l loved it and I didn't care what it costs. I will have those memories the rest of my life.
When I had the money, I spent a fortune on FS9 equipment and software. I couldn't justify it economically but I enjoyed every minute of it just as I now enjoy some of the things FSX offers. I just can't throw as much money at it because I don't have it to throw. If I were not part of a team that tests computer equipment I wouldn't get to play with my computer toys I love so much, but I enjoy sharing what works with those who can buy them. I doubt all of them can economically justify doing it, but it brings enjoyment and satisfacton. Priceless in a world of turmoil.
Ted
This is no different. I can't afford this jet either, but the quality is absolutely superb, a real cut above the many. I watched, as a beta tester, A2A build something that had never been done before in flight simulation with the B377. I doubt if Scott could justify the costs in developing the product in reality, but you spend the time, the money and the effort for realism for enjoyment of the hobby you love. The price may seem high with the Accusim Engine, but wow what an experience for us if you are into that sort of thing. I don't evne know if Scott recouped his costs to develop that fine product.
You buy a $55.00 Mustang for the same reason, because of your love for the hobby and to get as much realism as a less than $100 simulator will give you. It cost them a small fortune to develop it, I'd stake my life on that. It is foolish I guess, but it is fun and brings hours of enjoyment...how do you put a price on that? You ought to see what I spent keeping a Cessna 140 in the air, but l loved it and I didn't care what it costs. I will have those memories the rest of my life.
When I had the money, I spent a fortune on FS9 equipment and software. I couldn't justify it economically but I enjoyed every minute of it just as I now enjoy some of the things FSX offers. I just can't throw as much money at it because I don't have it to throw. If I were not part of a team that tests computer equipment I wouldn't get to play with my computer toys I love so much, but I enjoy sharing what works with those who can buy them. I doubt all of them can economically justify doing it, but it brings enjoyment and satisfacton. Priceless in a world of turmoil.
Ted
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gajit
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Im going to wait until the sales start and it drops in price as I am getting fed up of paying full price and then seeing offers appear a matter of months later when sales run dry.
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gajit
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Hi Ted
Part of my resistance to pay too much for FSX products at the moment is that I have been re purchasing aircraft I loved in FS9 AGAIN for FSX.
My amex bill is always over £100 each month for FSX addons - sometimes up to £200 but it sounds on this product that we are paying Cessna extra for the privage of flying it and it would be less without that royalty. From the screens it does not look as well textured as carendo, Captain Sim and nowadays Alphasim products.