FlyingIron Simulations Bf-109G-6 Released 6/14
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Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
Thank you!
Hi!
Let me just say, It's a fantastic repaint!! The representation of the RLM colour tones is spot on. I only spotted one slight mistake on the lower cowling door:
It reads "Offnen", but should read "Öffnen" and it reads "Kuhler", but should read "Kühler" in German. I hope it is not the same way on the RW restored aircraft, as for instance the word "Kraftstoffbehälter" on the drop tank contains the correct German-A.
Best regards,
Seawing
Ah, just spotted two more:
It reads "Heir aufbocken" and "Heir anheben", but should read "Hier aufbocken" and "Hier anheben" (it's on both sides).
And on the Oil Dip Stick it reads "Olpeilstab", which should be "Ölpeilstab".
Regards,
Seawing
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
Thank you, Seawing, I'll get right on to correcting those items. That was my worst fear, doing the German stenciling. The tail misspellings is purely my fault, where as the missing dots/umlauts of the nose stencils don't seem to be present in the photos I was working from of the restoration (it could just be that they didn't show up well in the photos), but I had seen those in other instances of those stencils and I'll get them added in too. Over the past day I've been wanting to make a slight change to the hue/tone of the RLM 04 yellow markings/stencils, as well as updating the main gear wheel hubs, so I'll inject all of these items into the next update.
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No worries! You're doing great!!
One more thing a stumbled over. On the lower access steps (just aft of the wings) you put "Einsteigklappe". I think it should read "Einstiegklappe" on all Bf 109s. I would have to dig for a photo or a Luftwaffe technical order, though. It say "Einstiegklappe" on the FI paints and it makes more sense in German. If you want, I can try to confirm the actual stencil.
Best regards,
Seawing
I own the Messerschmitt Bf109 Owner's workshop Manual. Einsteigklappe is correct according to the photographs.
Paul
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
Version 1.2 of my repaint is now available on Flightsim.to
Changes include:
- Corrected misspellings within a couple stencils around the tail and added missing umlauts/dots over a few letters within the stencils on the nose.
- Updated main landing gear wheel hub textures.
- Slightly adjusted hue/tone of the RLM 04 yellow markings & stencils for better in-game accuracy.
- Added missing weathering layer to right wing.
https://flightsim.to/file/57719/messerschmitt-bf-109g-6-wknr-410077-n42109
Changes include:
- Corrected misspellings within a couple stencils around the tail and added missing umlauts/dots over a few letters within the stencils on the nose.
- Updated main landing gear wheel hub textures.
- Slightly adjusted hue/tone of the RLM 04 yellow markings & stencils for better in-game accuracy.
- Added missing weathering layer to right wing.
https://flightsim.to/file/57719/messerschmitt-bf-109g-6-wknr-410077-n42109
That is one I got right.
Ok, great! So it's all correct!!
I just downloaded v1.2!
Regards,
Seawing
Spook48
SOH-CM-2024
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
That is looking great, Spook! I don't envy you doing the tulip markings, especially with so many individual sections of mapping around the nose. I really like the colors and over all color scheme.
My next repaint (very early work-in-progress) is decidedly less complex than my previous, depicting the restored Bf 109G-2 WkNr. 10639 Black 6 (G-USTV), which sparked my interest in the '109 back in the 1990s when it was still flying from Duxford. This aircraft, restored between 1972-1991, was first painted in this, its original 1942 desert scheme, in 1991, and then the paint scheme was completely redone again in 1996. Then, following the accident in 1997 and subsequent rebuild, it was of course repainted in this scheme for a third time. Each of those three iterations of its original wartime paint scheme have various and subtle differences between them. I've decided to depict it as it looked between '91-'95, which is my favorite iteration of the paint work, and relying really just on photos from that time period so that every detail will be right to that time period. Unlike any of the other Bf 109s that have flown since WWII, Black 6 is the only one that was almost entirely all original. With it, I'll also be including a repaint depicting the aircraft as it initially looked straight out of restoration, on its first flight, in over all RLM 02 primer and red-doped fabric.
My next repaint (very early work-in-progress) is decidedly less complex than my previous, depicting the restored Bf 109G-2 WkNr. 10639 Black 6 (G-USTV), which sparked my interest in the '109 back in the 1990s when it was still flying from Duxford. This aircraft, restored between 1972-1991, was first painted in this, its original 1942 desert scheme, in 1991, and then the paint scheme was completely redone again in 1996. Then, following the accident in 1997 and subsequent rebuild, it was of course repainted in this scheme for a third time. Each of those three iterations of its original wartime paint scheme have various and subtle differences between them. I've decided to depict it as it looked between '91-'95, which is my favorite iteration of the paint work, and relying really just on photos from that time period so that every detail will be right to that time period. Unlike any of the other Bf 109s that have flown since WWII, Black 6 is the only one that was almost entirely all original. With it, I'll also be including a repaint depicting the aircraft as it initially looked straight out of restoration, on its first flight, in over all RLM 02 primer and red-doped fabric.
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Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
gribouil
Charter Member
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
Yes, very happy! In all honesty, I had found out just a day prior to having started on the repaint (back on June 21st) that this was going to be in the next issue.
In the Classic Wings article on the restoration of Bf 109G-6 WkNr.410077, the owner/pilot Dr. Bruce "Doc" Winter writes his thoughts thus-far on flying the 109, and some comparisons to the P-51D (which he has about 1,000 hrs flight time). Even though he is still new to flying the 109, the landings that I've seen him do are really the smoothest I've seen anyone do in the 109.
Doc Winter's write-up on flying the 109:
"Now that I have had about 15 hours I can share my first impressions. Certainly worth mentioning that I really look forward to each flight, trying to take her up as often as I can. She is a very rewarding fighter to fly; there is always excitement during each flight and a feeling of accomplishment at the end of each flight. But let's start at the walk down and pre-flight. As you walk up to her on the ramp the excitement really builds with the realization that this IS the iconic World War II Luftwaffe enemy fighter, the ME109G-6. Two things are apparent, she is sinister looking even on the ground and she is SMALL. After pre-flight you open the side hinged birdcage, heavy canopy (which is a definite liability to a good visual scan) and squeeze into the very small cockpit that is well laid out, organized and simple. Shoulders pressed against fuselage in the small raked back seat and no seat or pedal adjustment solidifies the fact it is better to be smaller in stature as a 109 fighter pilot. The start of the Daimler Benz 605A is the best, definitely different from the Merlin and about seven liters bigger displacement. There is a deeper rhythmic lumbering sound to the DB, with the feel of power. Throttle movement is very small for large power changes, with overall throttle travel quite short. Most throttle adjustments require only two fingers to push slowly, small increments. She is definitely more tail heavy and with only a castoring tail wheel for taxi, differential braking and power are used for tracking. Takeoff gives you a hint of the acceleration and power to weight of this little fighter. Lockable tail wheel with a delayed raising of the tail, to a tail low attitude, helps result in a straight track normal takeoff with no usage of brakes. Very quick acceleration and a short time on the runway leads to a quick takeoff. Push button for gear up followed by manually controlling the propeller pitch and thus engine RPM, followed by manually bringing up the flaps and manual elevator trim control (the only adjustable in-flight trim) using two wheels outboard of your left hip. Ensure T's and P's are good. With a lower seat position you feel like you are sitting on top of that VERY small wing as she accelerates away. Then it is manually adjusting coolant doors for good stable temps and switching to Auto Prop (constant speed prop position). She flies really well. Mike, Dave and Steve at Midwest did an outstanding job with her restoration, flying so true and well balanced on the controls with hardly any need of fixed trim tab adjustments on the ground.
Specifically, she accelerates very quickly; she is overall - very fast; rolls quickly - the push/pull tubing for controls help with this fast initial displacement - elevator is effective but stiffens at higher speeds; very yaw-axis-sensitive, needing constant readjustment with any slight changes in roll, pitch or power, more so than the Mustang. But there are also advantages with the ability for commanded yaw in a guns only fight. I am still a novice in the aircraft and have not pushed her hard at all, nor will I ever, but she sure is exciting to fly. Back in the break for the landing pattern, gear push button down at 250 kph (155 mph) and there is the need to leave time to crank all the flaps down with the hand wheel. She is very stable requiring very little throttle adjustment and seems quite happy to be set up all dirty and 200 kph (124 mph) downwind. Then begin a continuous turn to final, slowing to 185 kph (115 mph) once on the short final over the fence and then bring the throttle to idle for a nice smooth unhurried transitioning to the three point attitude for landing. Power idle, patience in the three point attitude and landing straight down the runway seem key to a nice recovery. The leading edge slats operate perfectly and seamlessly as designed. I never notice their symmetric travel from extension in the landing pattern to retraction on takeoff.
I have only flown my sorties when the weather and winds are quite calm. Landing and roll out can be smooth and straight and relatively short. The two iconic adversary fighters are definitely different - Mustang/109 - but there is six years in aeronautical engineering development between the 109, first built in 1935, and the Mustang. The 109 is almost the smallest fuselage and wings you could wrap around a 35-litre DB engine with only 400 liters (105.6 US gallons) internal fuel. The 109 is at least 907 kg (2,000 lbs) lighter, with 1.5 m (five ft) less wing! But it is 80 kph (50 mph) slower than the Mustang in the mid 20K's! She behaves nicely when you pay attention to what all the old experts advise and operate her in benign conditions. I have been fortunate to have learned a great deal from all of the old hands and treat her gently under real good weather conditions to safely gain good flying experience. I am nowhere near done exploring our beautiful historic 109 - not even close!"
In the Classic Wings article on the restoration of Bf 109G-6 WkNr.410077, the owner/pilot Dr. Bruce "Doc" Winter writes his thoughts thus-far on flying the 109, and some comparisons to the P-51D (which he has about 1,000 hrs flight time). Even though he is still new to flying the 109, the landings that I've seen him do are really the smoothest I've seen anyone do in the 109.
Doc Winter's write-up on flying the 109:
"Now that I have had about 15 hours I can share my first impressions. Certainly worth mentioning that I really look forward to each flight, trying to take her up as often as I can. She is a very rewarding fighter to fly; there is always excitement during each flight and a feeling of accomplishment at the end of each flight. But let's start at the walk down and pre-flight. As you walk up to her on the ramp the excitement really builds with the realization that this IS the iconic World War II Luftwaffe enemy fighter, the ME109G-6. Two things are apparent, she is sinister looking even on the ground and she is SMALL. After pre-flight you open the side hinged birdcage, heavy canopy (which is a definite liability to a good visual scan) and squeeze into the very small cockpit that is well laid out, organized and simple. Shoulders pressed against fuselage in the small raked back seat and no seat or pedal adjustment solidifies the fact it is better to be smaller in stature as a 109 fighter pilot. The start of the Daimler Benz 605A is the best, definitely different from the Merlin and about seven liters bigger displacement. There is a deeper rhythmic lumbering sound to the DB, with the feel of power. Throttle movement is very small for large power changes, with overall throttle travel quite short. Most throttle adjustments require only two fingers to push slowly, small increments. She is definitely more tail heavy and with only a castoring tail wheel for taxi, differential braking and power are used for tracking. Takeoff gives you a hint of the acceleration and power to weight of this little fighter. Lockable tail wheel with a delayed raising of the tail, to a tail low attitude, helps result in a straight track normal takeoff with no usage of brakes. Very quick acceleration and a short time on the runway leads to a quick takeoff. Push button for gear up followed by manually controlling the propeller pitch and thus engine RPM, followed by manually bringing up the flaps and manual elevator trim control (the only adjustable in-flight trim) using two wheels outboard of your left hip. Ensure T's and P's are good. With a lower seat position you feel like you are sitting on top of that VERY small wing as she accelerates away. Then it is manually adjusting coolant doors for good stable temps and switching to Auto Prop (constant speed prop position). She flies really well. Mike, Dave and Steve at Midwest did an outstanding job with her restoration, flying so true and well balanced on the controls with hardly any need of fixed trim tab adjustments on the ground.
Specifically, she accelerates very quickly; she is overall - very fast; rolls quickly - the push/pull tubing for controls help with this fast initial displacement - elevator is effective but stiffens at higher speeds; very yaw-axis-sensitive, needing constant readjustment with any slight changes in roll, pitch or power, more so than the Mustang. But there are also advantages with the ability for commanded yaw in a guns only fight. I am still a novice in the aircraft and have not pushed her hard at all, nor will I ever, but she sure is exciting to fly. Back in the break for the landing pattern, gear push button down at 250 kph (155 mph) and there is the need to leave time to crank all the flaps down with the hand wheel. She is very stable requiring very little throttle adjustment and seems quite happy to be set up all dirty and 200 kph (124 mph) downwind. Then begin a continuous turn to final, slowing to 185 kph (115 mph) once on the short final over the fence and then bring the throttle to idle for a nice smooth unhurried transitioning to the three point attitude for landing. Power idle, patience in the three point attitude and landing straight down the runway seem key to a nice recovery. The leading edge slats operate perfectly and seamlessly as designed. I never notice their symmetric travel from extension in the landing pattern to retraction on takeoff.
I have only flown my sorties when the weather and winds are quite calm. Landing and roll out can be smooth and straight and relatively short. The two iconic adversary fighters are definitely different - Mustang/109 - but there is six years in aeronautical engineering development between the 109, first built in 1935, and the Mustang. The 109 is almost the smallest fuselage and wings you could wrap around a 35-litre DB engine with only 400 liters (105.6 US gallons) internal fuel. The 109 is at least 907 kg (2,000 lbs) lighter, with 1.5 m (five ft) less wing! But it is 80 kph (50 mph) slower than the Mustang in the mid 20K's! She behaves nicely when you pay attention to what all the old experts advise and operate her in benign conditions. I have been fortunate to have learned a great deal from all of the old hands and treat her gently under real good weather conditions to safely gain good flying experience. I am nowhere near done exploring our beautiful historic 109 - not even close!"
Mr.Mugel
SOH-CM-2024
Guess I'll have to take the FlyingIron one up another time later.
That sounds like the simulation is very much spot on. (As you already commented earlier)It's also nice that someone in the US describing the plane as a machine and enjoying the engineering and craftmenship that went into the design. Of course the purpose it was built for can never be denied, but still it is a fascinating aircraft.
TiAr
Charter Member
John, you did a new benchmark of FlyingIron Bf-109 repaints with the 410077. Thank you very much. I love it.
My repaints of D-FWME of the Messerschmitt Foundation Germany and D-FMGS of the Air Fighter Academy are now published. You get very accurate figures of the real planes as of today, too. I have changed the spinners on both Bf 109s, too. Together with the individual markings, and the subsequent adjustment to the original RLM colors, that was the main work. Due of MSFS shaders, I changed the origninal RLM colors a bit. Both repaints do fine with 4K.
DFWME6 by TiAr, auf Flickr
DFWME5 by TiAr, auf Flickr
https://www.flightsim.com/files/fil...09-g-4-red-7-d-fwme-messerschmitt-foundation/
And Air Fighters Academy D-FMGS
D-FMGS5 by TiAr, auf Flickr
D-FMGS6 by TiAr, auf Flickr
https://www.flightsim.com/files/file/210469-msfs-messerschmitt-bf-109-g-6-black-8-d-fmgs/
Hope you like my work.
Thomas
My repaints of D-FWME of the Messerschmitt Foundation Germany and D-FMGS of the Air Fighter Academy are now published. You get very accurate figures of the real planes as of today, too. I have changed the spinners on both Bf 109s, too. Together with the individual markings, and the subsequent adjustment to the original RLM colors, that was the main work. Due of MSFS shaders, I changed the origninal RLM colors a bit. Both repaints do fine with 4K.
DFWME6 by TiAr, auf FlickrDFWME5 by TiAr, auf Flickrhttps://www.flightsim.com/files/fil...09-g-4-red-7-d-fwme-messerschmitt-foundation/
And Air Fighters Academy D-FMGS
D-FMGS5 by TiAr, auf FlickrD-FMGS6 by TiAr, auf Flickrhttps://www.flightsim.com/files/file/210469-msfs-messerschmitt-bf-109-g-6-black-8-d-fmgs/
Hope you like my work.
Thomas
Spook48
SOH-CM-2024
I just uploaded this paint to .to
https://flightsim.to/file/58096/messerschmitt-bf-109g-6-weisse-1-4-jg-52
snap02278 by Danny Best, on Flickr
snap02281 by Danny Best, on Flickr
snap02282 by Danny Best, on Flickr
https://flightsim.to/file/58096/messerschmitt-bf-109g-6-weisse-1-4-jg-52
snap02278 by Danny Best, on Flickrsnap02281 by Danny Best, on Flickrsnap02282 by Danny Best, on Flickr