Formula1 in chaos, again!

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6297J

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This is getting silly now. First the rule changes then the U turn on the rule changes and now the teams are squabbling amongst themselves again!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7965056.stm

I'm still looking forward to the weekend though. I think Lewis is going to have a bad season - McLaren are far off the pace :ernae:

Believe it or not Jenson Button is the bookies favourite for the opening race :icon_lol:
 
i still think they should make all the cars the same, except paint job, no arguments then about cars being unfair, if you come last, your just a **** driver :engel016:
 
stiz said:
i still think they should make all the cars the same, except paint job, no arguments then about cars being unfair, if you come last, your just a **** driver :engel016:
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nah, the technology race is what makes formula one formula one.
 
stiz said:
i still think they should make all the cars the same, except paint job, no arguments then about cars being unfair, if you come last, your just a **** driver :engel016:
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Except Ferrari would pull out.

(Unless all the teams get the same Ferrari of course but that would mean some of the teams would cheat even more than they do now to gain an advantage).
 
Seems like Williams, Brawn GP (Former Honda) and Toyota have used a hiatus in the rules to their own advantage to gain an advantage. The other teams missed this opportunity and are now complaining because they are now loosing up to 0.5 seconds a lap. Red Bull in particular are basically screwed if the FIA allows the diffusor setup of the three teams as their rear suspension design will not allow a similar setup without redesigning the entire rear end of the car.
We'll have to wait and see how the stewards decide, but even then the losers will most likely protest the decision. That protest will not be discussed until after the next race which will take place next week.

Just as interesting will be the use of KERS (Kinetic energy recovery system). Ferrari, Renault and McLaren will use it, BMW will only use it on Heidfeld's car, and the other teams will not use it for now. It will be interesting to see if the extra boost can make up for the weight penalty.
Reliability could become an issue too.
 
6297J said:
Except Ferrari would pull out.

(Unless all the teams get the same Ferrari of course but that would mean some of the teams would cheat even more than they do now to gain an advantage).
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That already exists; it's called A1GP.

A nations cup with identical cars built by Ferrari, based on their 2004 F1 chassis but with a modified F430 V8 engine in the back.

http://www.a1gp.com/
 
This is the main thrust of it Mike -

Lewis Hamilton’s disenchantment with the performance of his McLaren Mercedes in the build-up to the new Formula One season is such that he admitted last night that he may consider switching teams.
McLaren have been so far off the pace that there are some who think the world champion may fail to make the top ten in qualifying for the Australian Grand Prix on Sunday, and Hamilton’s frustration appeared to be reflected when he said publicly for the first time that he could leave a team he joined to drive karts as a 13-year-old in 1998.
“I haven’t had offers from other teams and I am not talking to anyone. But I would listen to an offer from another team if someone asked me,” Hamilton, 24, said. “It would be a great compliment and it would be silly if I did not.”
Hamilton is just into the second year of a five-year contract, but until last night he had repeatedly said that he would be happy to spend his career with the Surrey-based team. To hint that he may have changed his mind will put even more pressure on McLaren to improve his car — and it would undoubtedly make their main rivals, notably Ferrari, prick up their ears.

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stiz said:
i still think they should make all the cars the same, except paint job, no arguments then about cars being unfair, if you come last, your just a **** driver :engel016:
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That what NASCAR has done and evey one says it sucks now.
 
6297J said:
This is the main thrust of it Mike -

Lewis Hamilton’s disenchantment with the performance of his McLaren Mercedes in the build-up to the new Formula One season is such that he admitted last night that he may consider switching teams.
McLaren have been so far off the pace that there are some who think the world champion may fail to make the top ten in qualifying for the Australian Grand Prix on Sunday, and Hamilton’s frustration appeared to be reflected when he said publicly for the first time that he could leave a team he joined to drive karts as a 13-year-old in 1998.
“I haven’t had offers from other teams and I am not talking to anyone. But I would listen to an offer from another team if someone asked me,” Hamilton, 24, said. “It would be a great compliment and it would be silly if I did not.”
Hamilton is just into the second year of a five-year contract, but until last night he had repeatedly said that he would be happy to spend his career with the Surrey-based team. To hint that he may have changed his mind will put even more pressure on McLaren to improve his car — and it would undoubtedly make their main rivals, notably Ferrari, prick up their ears.

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Thanks! :)


Mike
 
i've always said they should have a racing series that is run whatcha brung.
anything goes. i could really care less if it's about teams with big money. it already is in every other series anyhow.
 
6297J said:
Exactly, and who watches that??
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The real hard core open wheeler enthusiasts like me!

"nah, the technology race is what makes formula one formula one".

Rubbish!
The engines all run the same V angle, crankshaft length, capacity, are "frozen" in developement, and are fixed in a V8 configuration.
The rubber is supplied by one manufacturer, as are the brake discs, and if one team run out onto the grid today (it's already Friday AM here) with a purple pole fixed on the nose of their cars and set the fastest times ALL the others will do the same on Saturday.
Odd how two of the three offending teams are well known for bending the regulations to ridiculous lengths while the third is a 'copy-cat' when it comes to aerodynamics.

EffWun has nothing to do with 'Technology', it's all about making money for a select few.

:173go1:
A PS: Two weeks ago we had the 'Historics at Philip Island', last weekend the first round of the 'Domestic Taxicab Series' in Adelaide, and both had record attendance numbers.
I usually end up with a couple of 'Corporate' passes for the GP, this year it is six, which says a lot regarding what is wrong with what passes for 'Formula One' today.
 
wombat666 said:
A PS: Two weeks ago we had the 'Historics at Philip Island', last weekend the first round of the 'Domestic Taxicab Series' in Adelaide, and both had record attendance numbers.
I usually end up with a couple of 'Corporate' passes for the GP, this year it is six, which says a lot regarding what is wrong with what passes for 'Formula One' today.
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I take it you won't be going or watching then.
 
6297J said:
I take it you won't be going or watching then.
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Of course I'll go, I have friends running a Formula 3 car in the support events and we're all going to 'The Who' concert.
That aside, I get to 'make an entrance' (as usual) in my GT40R ......... :friday:
And if one doesn't take a look at the circus first hand to form an opinion then one is left to rely on media and team BS.
 
Where did this forum come from??

Sorry, I had no idea there was a forum for this on SOH and that this subject has probably already been done to death. Thanks to whoever the moderator was who moved the thread!
 
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