Formula1 in chaos, again!

Why? The KERS systems are optional for all the teams, and the teams with the possibly illegal diffusor just did their homework right. Believe me, if the FIA rules in favour of Williams, BGP and Toyota, most of the other teams will have a similar setup mounted on their cars for the next race!
 
Just my perogative - I'm uncomfortable with the current set of rules....

I can't place a finger on an exact point but something is amiss.....

For example if the rules make things "even" for those who have and those who don't, then why have (or not have) in the first place if it's all "technically even" in the end....
 
When it came to the rear diffusers Red Bull were one of the most vociferous of the protesters.
Then Vettel put in a very strong P3 and should do very well tomorrow!
 
Seems the rear wheel suspension design of the RBR cars will not allow a simple 'add-on diffusor'; they will have to redesign the entire rear-end of the car to take full advantage of the new diffusor..

I'm all in favour of the new rules so far; the regular front runners are now in the midfield, and Kimi, Lewis, Fernando and Felipe will now have to show how good they really are at overtaking.
Interesting to see how some have interpreted the rules and are now suddenly up front. Will have to wait how it unfolds during the next few races though; Melbourne last season wasn't really representative for the rest of the season.
 
Yep, we'll see how it unfolds alright....

Makes me think back to the Brabham fan car & 6 wheel Tyrrells that were both eventually banned...
 
Before we depart for the circuit (just on 10.10 here) I can say with certainty that the track temperature will not be high, by GP time it will be in the mid 20C range.

The reason RBR can't come up with a bolt-on fix is simple, unlike the other teams they run pullrod suspension instead of the 'universal' pushrod set up.
One thing we (as in my usual buch of old racing farts) believe with absolute certainty is the three 'cheater' teams have a huge advantage, a view shared among the members of the various 'Domestic' teams where I have friends.

Let's be honest, Barrichello is very nice bloke, a good journeyman driver, but has never been a real contender, and Button (who I do think is good but past his best) has done nothing much aside from stirring up a media frenzy when he first landed at Williams.

Rosberg still has the potential to do well, while 'Nakajap' is part of the Toyota-Williams package and was a definate mobile chicane last season.

And while the Toyotas showed signs of being on the way up last year, and both drivers are (IMHO) good, one is past his best and the other is just beginning to shine.

So, and I must say in my experience, ANYTHING that Ross Brawn comes up with that might be interpretated as 'clever exploitation of the regulations' is always shifty, we suddenly find three teams with no real front ranked drivers giving the rest grief.

It rather proves the 80% car+20% driver equation.

Considering the possibility of a win by any of these teams as probable, with the same result in the next round, against the possible success of an appeal against them (it's not just RBR who are unhappy, Ferrari, Renault and MacDonalds are prime movers behind the protest!) and the resulting loss of any wins and points if this is the case, it will be what remains of the 'Sport' in Motorsport that will get a black eye.

It was mentioned yesterday that the controversial diffusers appearing on both Team Toyota 1 and Team Toyota 2 smells more than a trifle.

That aside, the cars are really ugly and the speeds have not been cut back into the bargain, I'll reserve judgement on the 'overtaking' after the event.

Of more interest to us ancients are the 30+ F5000 'Dinasours' having a very serious go in the support events and the welcome appearance of some very good GT racing, as the Porsche Cup has gone, so the assorted National' GT series have got together, adopted the European format, absorbed a good number of the Porsche runners and are turning on entertaining action with over 30 entries.
And those Astons are an aural delight!!
:jump:
Time to go.

PS:Ed, the six wheel Tyrrells were not banned, they were just a 'one season wonder', it was the far more effective Williams that was ruled out in late '81 ....... nothing really changes.
 
Don't think I like this late afternoon/sunset race time idea. It's plain old bloody dangerous. Trying to fly around high speed corners and straights with the setting sun straight in your eyes. I realize why it's there....it's just plain stupidity.
 
Hey All,

OK so I will try to make an effort to keep up with F1 this year. The machine is set to record the race.

Did a little reading and I know what a diffuser is as well as what KERS is and a little on how it works - battery which I understand but flywheel? an engine spins a flywheel so I don't get how this system would work. Still need to figure out the ins and outs of how these cars are set up. And how on earth does qualifying work? Why would you have anything but a minimum weight car unless it is like being at Daytona or Talledega where starting position doesn't matter.

Also read where Ross Braun is the smartest guy in F1 couse I'm sure he is no Smokey Yunick.

Not a fan of any team so I guess it doesn't matter who wins. What driver would be the Jimmy Johnson - in terms of character and driving style (smooth, efficient and always there at the end or close anyway) - in F1 today? Whoever he is I'll cheer for that team I suppose.

-Ed-
 
Not a fan of any team so I guess it doesn't matter who wins. What driver would be the Jimmy Johnson - in terms of character and driving style (smooth, efficient and always there at the end or close anyway) - in F1 today? Whoever he is I'll cheer for that team I suppose.

-Ed-

Tough call here because I don't think there's an "F1" version...

That being said, perhaps Kimi Raikkonen, Robert Kubica, or Sebastian Buemi might fill your bill....:kilroy:
 
Chaos alright! :d

Great race IMHO, with plenty of action and overtaking.

I'd rather see two cars fighting for second and both crashing off than both settling for the points. Barrichello proved the BGP is not just fast, but strong as well. His diffusor was damaged in his crash with Kovalainen, but still he managed to get back on the podium. :applause:
Good to see Kubica and Vettel competitive, even though neither have KERS or a bigger diffusor on their cars.

Hamilton did quite well too, fighting his way back from the back of the grid to fifth. Overtaking seems a bit easier with the new rules.
 
I knew those front wings would be flying all over the place. But what a grand first race result from a new team.
 
was deffinitly a good race, the first f1 race i've actually enjoyed and watched from start to finish for years! Its deffinitly going to be an intresting season :woot:
 
More controversy: According to McLaren Trulli went off just before the last safety car situation, Hamilton passed him, but Trulli overtook Hamilton again under a yellow flag. The stewards are looking into the situation right now.
 
Trulli has been given a 25 second penalty for overtaking under a yellow flag so he dropped down to 12th, giving Hamilton the podium and Bourdais one point. Toyota annouced it will lach an appeal against the decision.

Vettel was penalised for causing the accident with Kubica, he will be set back ten places on the start grid for the next race, and for keeping on the track with only three tyres he got a $50.000 fine.

The results (For now..):

1. Jenson Button Britain Brawn-Mercedes 58 laps 1hr 34m 15.784s
2. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Brawn-Mercedes +0.8s
3. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes +2.9s
4. Timo Glock Germany Toyota-Toyota +4.4s
5. Fernando Alonso Spain Renault-Renault +4.8s
6. Nico Rosberg Germany Williams-Toyota +5.7s
7. Sebastien Buemi Switzerland Toro Rosso-Ferrari +6.0s
8. Sebastien Bourdais France Toro Rosso-Ferrari +6.2s

9. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes +6.3s
10. Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber +7.0s
11. Giancarlo Fisichella Italy Force India-Mercedes +7.3s
12. Jarno Trulli Italy Toyota-Toyota +26.6s
13. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault +1 lap

Rtd Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 56 laps completed acc damage
Rtd Robert Kubica Poland BMW Sauber 55 laps completed accident
Rtd Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari-Ferrari 55 laps completed acc damage
Rtd Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 45 laps completed mechanical
Rtd Nelson Piquet Jr Brazil Renault-Renault 24 laps completed accident
Rtd Kazuki Nakajima Japan Williams-Toyota 17 laps completed accident
Rtd Heikki Kovalainen Finland McLaren-Mercedes 0 laps completed damage
 
Seems pretty chaotic to me!

It's going to be the most interesting season for years!
 
All in all, a good race :)

I know it's only one race in the season but thus so far after one race, the "fast" decision appears to run a car with either a diffuser or without KERS & without a diffuser. (It *looks* as if the extra power of the KERS isn't worth extra weight it carries).

Interesting side note is that former Benetton engineer Steve Matchett stated that if it were up to him, none of the cars would have KERS....

When Vettel pitted with 13 laps to go & had to put on the super-softs, I knew it was over for him right then and there & that Kubica would catch him...
 
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