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FSX on a MAC

Man.. This is a give and take situation...


XP is very good on laptops.. Fast, quick, sharp, lite... Like a Bugatti F1 engine casted in Magnesium....


vista though is like a Bugatti Royale engine, two straight eights combined. Has some cool graphics, and a huge OS to weigh down the processors....


If you are wanting 'blume' (which is what DX10 offers, looks like haze), then definately load up vista. If you want it to run fast and quick, lite and sharp, then load up XP.


Wait for some other opinions though... I am only one voice in the crowd.


(I had / have a cool HP laptop.. could barely run vista.. would take like 4 mins or more to boot up. I had XP installed on it instead.. thing is a little super computer now).



Bill
 
I run XP on all of my laptops. My Alienware M9750 came with Vista and dual Nvidia 8700GT cards but I wound up installing XP Pro SP3 and fitted a pair of Nvidia 7950GT cards instead for a better gaming experience.
I'm waiting on Alienware to offer the dual ATi 4870 cards on their M17 notebook.......then I'll be all over it!!:costumes:
 
kilo delta said:
I run XP on all of my laptops. My Alienware M9750 came with Vista and dual Nvidia 8700GT cards but I wound up installing XP Pro SP3 and fitted a pair of Nvidia 7950GT cards instead for a better gaming experience.
I'm waiting on Alienware to offer the dual ATi 4870 cards on their M17 notebook.......then I'll be all over it!!:costumes:
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Goodness.. Dual cards in a Notebook???

This truly is the future, lol.. Amazing.


This morning, I couldnt sleep, was playing around with hovering the Tilt Rotor. I wanted some AI traffic around the airport and bumped up AI GA traffic to 100%. Couldnt believe it. No change in frame rates... :d

Lovin it.

I wonder if this iMac has the new dual graphics card/CPU chips. Supposedly its their new big concept. No more talking to the CPU through the board, linked directly 'into' the chip. They said the speeds were moderately increased in performance.



Bill
 
Sli/crossfire has been available for the last few years in notebooks.... my 3 year old M9700 notebook has sli'd Nvidia 512mb 7900GS cards. Pity that FS9/X doesn't take advantage of the second card :(
 
They need to really get on that..

Another cool thing that would help FSX run faster is to have it available for Mac OSX. Their OS allows for up to 32 Gigs of RAM. Who knows how many chips and GC's you can put in their tower...



Bill
 
Bill what Killed / Happened to the two computers you had been using/torturing anyway.. i was wondering .. Why ? or how they died , you have had a remarkable run of bad luck, i run Vista on two machines , one a notebook the other a desktop and have never had a problem.
 
Chuck_Jodry-VJPL said:
Bill what Killed / Happened to the two computers you had been using/torturing anyway.. i was wondering .. Why ? or how they died , you have had a remarkable run of bad luck, i run Vista on two machines , one a notebook the other a desktop and have never had a problem.
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Hey Chuck,


Around Jan., Hybrid virus claimed a HD, uncleanable.
Around March, a power outage, possible lightning strike took out one rig
Around December, after installing a PSU, upon 4th bootup, the Mobo decided it was time to go to PC heaven.

I do run them hard though Chuck. The last unit may have been on its way out anyways. I do so much testing, booting up FSX and FS9 daily countless times. I am amazed they last this long. I will be setting up alternatives and backups though. I have my eye on the G5 Apple Mac Pro tower as a future main studio rig, keep the iMac 24 inch as a backup.

This Apple is sweet. I feel that losing the HP Media Center (not even a year old) was a blessing in disquise. This new rig boots up in several seconds, be it XP or OSX.



Bill
 
Lionheart said:
Around December, after installing a PSU, upon 4th bootup, the Mobo decided it was time to go to PC heaven.
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I told you about a thousand times that you should not talk bad about your hardware behind its back! Those silicon things understand way more than you would believe and voilà, they end up all depressed and doing a Kurt Cobain on you! :d :costumes:




*Pats his Thinkpad*
*Gets a purring from the CPU cooler*
Good boy....good boy...:d
 
XP Pro X64, I really liked this OS. Smooth and fast but driver compatability was a real hassle. I had to hack some programs to get them to work (SH3) even worse now Microsoft no longer updates or supports it.

Vista, in regards to FSX, if it's only good for enabling blume in Dx10 then it might not be worth the strain the OS and Dx10 put on my notebooks medium powered CPU and GPU.

I think perhaps the best coarse of action would be to use good lo' XP x32 SP3.
 
I've never understood why folks will spend mucho $'s on computer hardware, but are too stingy to invest <$100 in a decent UPS to protect said computer hardware...

...I have never lost a bit of hardware due to voltage spikes, brownouts, or complete power failure... :173go1:

Also, regarding the use of dual cards (SLI or Crossfire) do understand that there's no "special programming" that is required to "make use of them..." Both SLI and Crossfire are set up to distribute the load automatically. They do not need any special instructions to "turn 'em on."
 
n4gix said:
...I have never lost a bit of hardware due to voltage spikes, brownouts, or complete power failure... :173go1:
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Yep... Phoenix power company.. Salt River Project. My lights are always doing the fade down, brighten up thing. Amazing.... I need a giant spike protector attached to the main house power.

You would think we would be using power from the nuclear powerplant by us.. But no.. That all goes to California. Why do they build a powerplant in Phoenix I ask you? Why not Utah or Nevada..? arrghh....



Bill
 
txnetcop said:
I play FSX with MacBook Pro 1.5 at my physician sites as doctors prefer Macs for patient care yet they use Xeon servers. I fail to find the fascination with FSX on a MAC. You still have to use Bootcamp 2.0 and you are still using either Windows XP Pro sp3 or Vista to run it on a machine that uses exactly the same parts as you can buy for a PC and it runs FSX slower than a more inexpensive game machine. Macs are ridiculously priced and you are getting the same components. You can't use the argument that MAC OS is better for running FSX because you are still using Windows OS to run it...:isadizzy: BTW the graphics for FSX on a standard Gamer system are far superior to MAC's slow interface. The big problem is the memory interface that just kills frame rates. Save your money Bill and get a Gamer.
Ted
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I don't think it's about deciding which is better. I think it's more likely an issue of 'I'm stuck with a mac, can't afford two computers but still want FSX' in most cases.
 
tigisfat said:
I don't think it's about deciding which is better. I think it's more likely an issue of 'I'm stuck with a mac, can't afford two computers but still want FSX' in most cases.
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In most cases, you could afford two FSX computers for the price of a "decent" mac... :mixedsmi:
 
codeseven said:
Just curious, why no FSX now?
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Okay, just came back from a test in FSX, so let me come clean.

I f*cking hate this OS.

FSX is stuttering with catastrophic loss of FPS. Everything is semi-fine while the aircraft stands still on the ground, but as soon as there's motion, FPS drop to 8 to 9 and the sim just s-t-u-t-t-e-r-s. This has happened with with the latest 180.84, 180.70 and 180.48 drivers from NVidia and to a lesser extent with the old 178.92 series, but random stuttering is still encountered.

Frustration!

Fallout 3 decides to BSOD on me once in a while or quite often (depending on video driver installed) as well as the whole system if I'm turning it on for the first time on the day. Other games, like Far Cry 2 were just tested briefly to check driver quality/performance.

Frustration!²

Ever since deciding to go 64bit I've been plagued with nothing but troubles. I neverever had the chance to *really* enjoy my hardware upgrades. Three OS'es (Vista x64, Server 2008 x64, XP x64) denied me the hassle-free gaming and working that XP x32 could provide.
I've spent more time trouble-shooting than flying, modeling or gaming and this is simply what it shouldn't be about.

The best thing is, I can't find a cause. My hardware is a-ok mechanically; it's gotta be somewhere in the OS/drivers.

Frustration!³

I would really like to go back to XP x32, but the thing is that x64 is so much faster in some applications (not games) and it can use the whole 4GB and stuff...




P.S: FSAirlines logged my last *real* flight in FSX on October 13th. Sad, isn't it?
 
Man Bjoern,

I could truly shed a tear there.. I know the struggle. We have trully tried to run this thing.... Every single trick, adjustment, tweak, niggle, jiggle, prayer, tap, smack, clobber, GC, PSU, CPU, RAM.......

:friday: :faint:



arrghhh
 
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