FSXBA Hornet

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Mayor Emeritus of Taco City
Quick and heartfelt applause to FSDream Team for their F-18c Legacy Hornet improvements

Thank you for all the work you have done to make this baby shine
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DennyA said:
Actually, the newest newest version, 18.3, is here: http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,16514.0.html

There's a P3Dv4-specific version, too! (Though apparently they're working on fixing some P3D avionics issues.)
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Actually, the v18.3 has both the P3D 64 bit version, and the older P3D and FSX 32 bit setups included in the same download.

Instructions in the Readme tell you how to make it the 64 bit version. I believe it's default is the 32 bit version. Essentially, it's a matter of which Panel.Fleet folder, and Hornet_FCS.dll file you utilize, as to whether it's 64 or 32 bit.

Yes, Jimi and Orion are working on getting the Avionics right for PD 64 bit. It's still a work in progress, but the v18.3 is a big improvement over the v18.1, believe me.

I don't have P3D, so I can't speak to how well it works, or how good it looks, but in FSX:SE it's a real joy to fly. Aerobatics and traps aboard the boat both. Only problem I've noticed so far is that in a dive, at about 400 KIAS, going through 10,000' MSL, it can give a little wobble. Jimi and team are working on it.

Enjoy it though. It is a joy to fly, and there's 80 liveries, from around the world, for the screenie types.
I love it, I know that!
Pat☺
 
thank you for sorting out the latest / correctest version of the jet for the various iterations of FSX/P3D...it's getting a little oblong trying to sort it all out at this point, isn't it..

Regardless - Great Work has been done and continues to be done to bring the Legacy Hornet to life and closer to accuracy and fidelity. Thank you to the team for their diligence and skill
 
I am a little confused about installation to P-3DV4. There are some P3D specific files, i.e. Gauges and Panel.Fleet? So am guessing the contents of the Gauges directory go into the Gauges directory of V4, and the Panel.Fleet goes into the FSXBA Hornet main directory in V4? Is there any other config necessary, i.e. modifying the aircraft.cfg file to tell it to use Panel.Fleet?

Oh, and would love to see a VFA-106 paint done of this (I know a Anniversary Edition was done, but am referring to 1980s paint....when the squadron was commissioned.) I was with VFA-106 from 84-87. They didn't even have aircraft for several months!

Thanks. NC
 
Like Navy Chief, I'm a little confused as to how to sort out the "...Specific" files, except mine is for FSXA. So far I haven't been able to find any installation instructions. I've never installed any version of this. Are there installation instructions somewhere for the manual install downloads?
 
DennyA posted the latest links and in that link you can clearly see separate downloads - latest one for FSX-A and also the latest one for P3D ver4...
but it's true that this is getting trickier to suss out with all the versions for P3D and with FSX-A vs Steam...
 
The download file for the v.18.3 has everything you need to all the various simulator versions available. Well, for FSX, whether box or SE, and P3DV4 64 bit, anyway.

Jimi has posted an update, May 05 2018, since I downloaded the v18.3. I will verify what's going on with the two downloads. There's one for P3D64bit, and one for FSX. I will get back to y'all as soon as I get them both downloaded, so I can see what gives.
You can find the two downloads here: http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,16514.msg117675.html#msg117675 . He also has the various updates and improvements the latest update has included in that particular post. I recommend going through the post.

If you have an older zip file, before the 5 May one, and it doesn't have an auto-installer, do this:
For FSX, or P3d 32 bit versions, Simply unzip the zip file to a temp folder of some sort, and copy the contents over to your \Simobjects\Airplanes folder. It should be good to go. That's presuming you have the correct C++ Redistribuable running.

For the P3DV4 64bit version, you need to make a couple of changes, and/or additions to make everything work right. First, you need to get a copy of the original FSX Acceleration file FA_18.DLL, and place it you main Gauges folder. P3D doesn't include this file. You need to get it from a FSX Acceleration, or FSX:SE installation. You also need to make sure you have the correct C++ Redistributable 2015 (X86) installed. You can get it from here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145 . Make sure you get the (X86) version.
Then, go to the P3D Specific Files folder. Copy the two files in the Gauges folder to your main P3D\Gauges folder. Overwrite if applicable.
Then, copy and Overwrite the files in the Panel.Fleet folder to the plane's Panel.Fleet folder. Essentially, you're replacing the Panel.cfg and the DSD sound dll files.

I have a more detailed install instructions here: http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,16514.msg126200.html#msg126200

I hope all this helps!
Pat☺
 
Ok, I finally got a chance to check the two out. They are specialized, as they indicate in their title and the title of the plane's folder in the appropriate zip file.
If you go to jimi's post on the first page of the newest Hornet thread here: http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,16514.msg117675.html#msg117675 , you will see that there are two different download links available. One is marked as being for FSX, the other is for P3D. That means P3DV4.

There's no action you need to take for either, presuming you have the proper ancillary files running. The C++ Redist, etc. Just download the right one for your sim, and unzip them into the correct folder. Like for FSX, it would be your \Simobjects\Airplanes. You will need to copy the effects and their textures to the sims \Effects folder. They are found in the planes \Extras folder.

Then hop in and go enjoy! This plane, according to the various real-world Hornet drivers on the development team, flies as close to the way the real one does as any out there. They are named in the beginning of the Aircraft.cfg file.
It may not be EASY, or whatever you've had available up to now, but it's very realistic.

The plane IS TacPac enabled, as well, for those of you who use it.

Couple it with AICarriers.NET, and vLSO, and AWAAAAYYYY You GO!

Enjoy all!

Pat☺
 
Pat, thank you for taking the time to reply to our installation questions. I did install it exactly as you say and all the basics seem to work OK in the limited amount of time I've spent with it.

I was questioning the fact that there were both P3D and FSX specific folders included in the FSX download as well as "default" folders/files. Obviously the P3D folder would be ignored for the FSX version. However, without installation instructions, especially for first time users like myself, it's hard to know if the additional files/folders within the folder titled "FSX Specific" should be exchanged with the default files/folders in the download, as they appear to be duplicates. Do these specific files contain optional additional or more advanced capabilities or effects, or are they just left overs from previous versions, etc?

Thanks,

Steve
 
However, without installation instructions, especially for first time users like myself, it's hard to know if the additional files/folders within the folder titled "FSX Specific" should be exchanged with the default files/folders in the download, as they appear to be duplicates.
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Originally, when the v18.3 first hit, they included everything for both sims, so they only had to make 1 download file for both sims. FSX, and P3D 64 bit. Now, due to the confusion, especially from the first time users like yourself, they split them off. Why Jimi doesn't include a Readme, or installation instructions, I don't know. It may be because they are releasing small updates, not enough to designate a whole new version, like v18.4 or whatever, too quickly, and Jimi couldn't keep up. I'm not certain, though.
I will speak with Jimi, and see if we can't get the installation instructions written up and included in a Readme for both download files.
During the summer, Jimi, Orion, and many other on the Team, are very busy. They are both still active duty military. This may contribute to their rush to release, along with the beta testers, and just general users crying out for various changes and updates. I wager they just ran so far behind, they gave up on the Readme file, or at least the auto-install file.
As I say, I will speak with Jimi, and see if we can get the Readme back on track.

Pat, thank you for taking the time to reply to our installation questions. I did install it exactly as you say and all the basics seem to work OK in the limited amount of time I've spent with it.
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I am glad it's working for you so well :D I am happy I could help out a little. I love this plane, if you couldn't tell, and tend to "advertise" it at every opportunity. Up till I started doing that, this plane was almost exclusively used by the FSX Blue Angels for their demo team flying. They have a lot of communication channels internally, so things like install instructions in a written form really weren't needed. With me shouting from the roof-tops, so to speak, they're getting a lot more "strangers", so a better Readme would be a benefit. Many first time installers aren't members of their forums, so that path of information dispersal, used up till recently, is no longer viable.

Do these specific files contain optional additional or more advanced capabilities or effects, or are they just left overs from previous versions, etc?
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Mostly leftovers. No longer needed now that there's 2 separate downloads, one for each sim type. The two "Specific Files" folders can pretty much be ignored.
The only folder you need to worry about any more is the Extras folder. It has the effects that need to be placed in the sims \Effects folder, including their associated textures.
It also includes documentation on the aircraft, what it does, and how it does it. Very good information to read up on. Another excellent source of information on the plane is the real-world Hornet's NATOPS manual. I strongly suggest you download it in PDF format. That way, you have the information at your fingertips. You can download it here: https://publicintelligence.net/u-s-navy-f-18-natops-flight-manuals/ .
That site has an immense hoard of various military manuals, both aircraft NATOPS of various sorts, as well as manuals published by the various services on a huge variety of subjects. Not just US Navy, but all services. Not just US services, but world wide. Great site.
I suggest taking a moment to browse around it and see what all they have you might be able to use :)

Enjoy it! It's great for FCLP, with scenery available from Paddles as part of his vLSO effort, as well as carrier ops. Bombing missions, A-A interdictions, the whole nine yards. It's even TacPac enabled.
Pat☺
 
Thanks again, Pat, for the detailed explanation. It is very helpful and it is much appreciated.

Steve
 
Read the manual and didn't see any information on loadout. At least to get the center tank visible. My a/c are all totally clean. I'm assuming there's a matrix for adding a given weight to a given store position?

thx,

dl

ps: I don't have Tacpac.
 
delta_lima said:
Read the manual and didn't see any information on loadout. At least to get the center tank visible. My a/c are all totally clean. I'm assuming there's a matrix for adding a given weight to a given store position?

thx,

dl

ps: I don't have Tacpac.
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I dont have tacpac either but the loadouts work independently of the weight and fuel GUI in FSX
just load a flight then press 'Ctrl+7' I think...and you get a popup window for loading up the externals...You have to click on the 'guns only' window in order to access the hard points..otherwise all you can load are the wingtip sidewinders
 
Does anybody know if the Ladder,and chocks work on this model,I have seen pics of with them both out,and if they do work whats the switches,or key presses?

Thanks
 
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