Me too ! Great news, Dean, and she's looking gorgeous !
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Sorry to hear that, Dean, really hope you'll find a way to make that happen. Good luck with that !
FYI: DC Designs working on Stearman
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Me too ! Great news, Dean, and she's looking gorgeous !
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cavaricooper
SOH-CM-2023
Is Andrew involved??? Please say YES!C
Daube
SOH-CM-2024
Wow I didn't expect this aircraft would come so soon, given all the work you've been showing for the F-15 updates recently !!
A small remark:
On another forum, somebody noticed the shape of the "pillars" between top and bottom wings (sorry I don't know their name... struts, maybe?) seemed to have quite a rectangular, not so aerodynamic shape/section.
Is it an effect of the screenshots/textures/reflections ?
YoYo
SOH-CM-2023
Btw:
PT-17 Stearman will be around $14.99 (I see F-14 too with the same level "Testers are currently testing this final build before launch so that I can iron out any last glitches before sending the package: paint kit and manual are all written and included, and the price is confirmed at $14.99 and local equivalents.")
I am still in P3Dv5 but what I like from the user point is the MSFS prices which are much more attractive (especially after the pandemic, when more people are counting their expenses). I think this is a much better policy as it will ultimately attract more people to payware addons, including new ones. XBox users are definitely not used to paying $ 50 for "DLC"
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PT-17 Stearman will be around $14.99 (I see F-14 too with the same level "Testers are currently testing this final build before launch so that I can iron out any last glitches before sending the package: paint kit and manual are all written and included, and the price is confirmed at $14.99 and local equivalents.")
I am still in P3Dv5 but what I like from the user point is the MSFS prices which are much more attractive (especially after the pandemic, when more people are counting their expenses). I think this is a much better policy as it will ultimately attract more people to payware addons, including new ones. XBox users are definitely not used to paying $ 50 for "DLC"
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heywooood
Mayor Emeritus of Taco City
Wow Pam - that is a great photo of your uncle. Classic aviator down to the casually capable expression on his face.
Is that a Waco UPF-7 he is holding down? If so it might be the first I've seen with that vented engine cover installed.
It's definitely a round engine and so leads me to wonder if you know anyone who will be modeling one for our favorite simulator anytime soon?
Is that a Waco UPF-7 he is holding down? If so it might be the first I've seen with that vented engine cover installed.
It's definitely a round engine and so leads me to wonder if you know anyone who will be modeling one for our favorite simulator anytime soon?
jetstreamsky
Charter Member
A nice preview
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
Some quick things I noticed in the preview video...
- The prop blade angle is backwards
- The windscreen framing looks like it holds armored glass, it is so thick(!)
- I've never seen horizontal stabilizers/elevators quite like those on a Stearman before (the design/shape looks off, and the elevators themselves should be full-length to the end/tip of the horizontals)
- The wings look rather 'clunky', especially the trailing edges
- Really strange looking hand holds on the lower wing tips - too big, and in the wrong location
- The prop blade angle is backwards
- The windscreen framing looks like it holds armored glass, it is so thick(!)
- I've never seen horizontal stabilizers/elevators quite like those on a Stearman before (the design/shape looks off, and the elevators themselves should be full-length to the end/tip of the horizontals)
- The wings look rather 'clunky', especially the trailing edges
- Really strange looking hand holds on the lower wing tips - too big, and in the wrong location
warchild
Charter Member
Welllll, Thats a good question and I dont rightly know.. It's whatever plane they gave him to teach student pilots in at the beginning of the war.. I'd always just assumed it was a stearman, but welll, On some of these old planes my judgement just isnt so good any more.. As for modeling?? Nooo, I dont know anyone doing it.. Wish I did..Maybe Carenado will port their Waco over to MSFS.. I own it for X-Plane and its a total love, but I dont know of any other versions..
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
Pam, Carenado has already released their Waco YMF-5 for MSFS - it is one of the most superb and extremely well-crafted addons released for MSFS to-date: https://www.carenado.com/sitecarenado/product/wymf5-msfs2020/
Granted, the Waco YMF-5 is of course a fully modern aircraft, based on an old design, which has been in manufacture since 1986.
It is most definitely a Waco UPF-7 in the photo of your uncle (very distinct design aspects, such as the cowling, windscreen framing, wing bracing, and the way in which the plumbing is routed). UPF-7 N32168 has the exact same vented cover over the engine as well: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/7633136
Granted, the Waco YMF-5 is of course a fully modern aircraft, based on an old design, which has been in manufacture since 1986.
It is most definitely a Waco UPF-7 in the photo of your uncle (very distinct design aspects, such as the cowling, windscreen framing, wing bracing, and the way in which the plumbing is routed). UPF-7 N32168 has the exact same vented cover over the engine as well: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/7633136
heywooood
Mayor Emeritus of Taco City
prop turns clockwise as well - watch from 11:04 of the video posted above...that is reversed.
agree with your other observations as well..
warchild
Charter Member
Stearman
SOH-CM-2023
The Carenado Waco may certainly be extremely well-crafted, but it is also frustratingly difficult to take-off and impossible to land without ending up off the runway due to the over-implemented torque effect. And don't even consider touching the wheelbrakes on landing, or overturning is assured. Without an easy mode (forgive me the purists) I can't enjoy it anymore, so I have finally uninstalled it
I really hope the Stearman will be more forgiving.
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jmig
SOH-CM-2024
The Carenado Waco may certainly be extremely well-crafted, but it is also frustratingly difficult to take-off and impossible to land without ending up off the runway due to the over-implemented torque effect. And don't even consider touching the wheelbrakes on landing, or overturning is assured. Without an easy mode (forgive me the purists) I can't enjoy it anymore, so I have finally uninstalled it
I really hope the Stearman will be more forgiving.
I pretty much have had the same experience with the Waco. I find it frustrating to fly.
cavaricooper
SOH-CM-2023
John-
I haven't tried it lately, is it any better after the last update (SU4)? It had some ground handling and flight surface fixes....
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Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
I don't understand the problems reported here about the Carenado Waco - that was the case with the first version of the product, but things have changed since then! I have the latest, updated version installed, and the sim of course fully updated, and I find it extremely easy on takeoff (perhaps too easy!). I did a flight in it just now, this morning, and I never once had to use any rudder at all on the takeoff roll (granted, the wind just happened to be straight down the runway at the time). On landing, I usually have to use just small movements of the rudder/dance the rudder to keep on top of it/keep it from starting to swing (it is a taildragger after all). That tailwheel lock is very effective!
I use CH Pro Pedals, set at -25 sensitivity, and the flight model set on Modern (as it should be for every MSFS-designed flight model).
Again, I reiterate how fantastic the Carenado Waco is - it should be one of the standards that all developers look to strive for to achieve or better (if they possibly can). In terms of classic types, the recently-released A1R Ryan ST-A is a perfect match for the same level of quality.
I use CH Pro Pedals, set at -25 sensitivity, and the flight model set on Modern (as it should be for every MSFS-designed flight model).
Again, I reiterate how fantastic the Carenado Waco is - it should be one of the standards that all developers look to strive for to achieve or better (if they possibly can). In terms of classic types, the recently-released A1R Ryan ST-A is a perfect match for the same level of quality.
cavaricooper
SOH-CM-2023
John-
That's exactly the feedback I was looking for as I haven't touched it in months (it's uninstalled atm). Until Nigel brings his Tutor to MSFS, the Waco is a lovely place for watching the sun set in and around PJM, whilst sipping on a Sundowner
Ta!
C
Alan_A
Charter Member
I have to agree - and I'm one of the people that's been most vocal in complaining about it. I went back to it last night after several weeks away from it and found it had become pretty straightforward to deal with. Like all MSFS aircraft right now, it gets squirmy on takeoff with any crosswind. But it seems as though sim update 4 has reduced (not eliminated) some of the excessive rudder sensitivity that's also common throughout the MSFS "fleet.' In addition, I reduced my rudder sensitivity even a bit more than I had in the past, and more than I thought was healthy, and that helped too. The Waco isn't perfect - it still has that tendency to depart suddenly to the left on the takeoff roll exactly at 40 mph no matter the power setting, which feels like a programmed behavior. But it's now possible to lift the tail as soon as it crosses that threshold and the rudder, with the right tuning, gives pretty decent directional control. Landings are quire easy and it's a pleasure in the air. Quickly becoming one of my favorite MSFS add-ons.
jmig
SOH-CM-2024
Well, I have to agree with Alan A. She has cleaned up her manners. Other than trying to run off the runway on take off, she was a well mannered girl in the air. I guess MSFS/Carenado have, partially at least, tamed the beast. I still like the Ryan better, however.John-
That's exactly the feedback I was looking for as I haven't touched it in months (it's uninstalled atm). Until Nigel brings his Tutor to MSFS, the Waco is a lovely place for watching the sun set in and around PJM, whilst sipping on a Sundowner
Ta!
C